Poll on Why we think DCL changed their alcohol Policy

[Rogillio]

"2 bottles of unopened wine or champagne or 6 beers" is still allowed. If the policy change was about profit, why would they still allow 2 bottles of wine or 6 beers...per person. I doubt DCL has a bottle of wine cheaper than $20. Mom and Dad each bring 2 bottles on board and that is $80 in lost revenue.

Seems to me if this were just about money, they would adopt the same policy as other cruise lines and that is ZERO! No alcohol at all.

Also, if it was just about money, why allow people to bring on a case of water?! There is tremendious mark up in bottled water on the ship!

 

[TheLanes]

"2 bottles of unopened wine or champagne or 6 beers" is still allowed. If the policy change was about profit, why would they still allow 2 bottles of wine or 6 beers...per person. I doubt DCL has a bottle of wine cheaper than $20. Mom and Dad each bring 2 bottles on board and that is $80 in lost revenue.

Seems to me if this were just about money, they would adopt the same policy as other cruise lines and that is ZERO! No alcohol at all.

Also, if it was just about money, why allow people to bring on a case of water?! There is tremendious mark up in bottled water on the ship!

They are just slowly chipping away. little chip here, little chip there

 

[wombat_5606]

For all the people that think DCL sails full, you might want to do a little research like I just did. I looked at all sail dates from today till the end of this year. I then looked at Sept.-Dec. 2016, just for a little comparison. Disney is cheapest when the sail dates are announced, so those cruises in 2016 should be pretty well booked.

This is what I discovered when looking into the 4 categories: Inside, OV, OV with Verandah and Concierge. I didn't look at the number of rooms in each category, just whether there was 1 cabin available to book. Someone else can do that and add in the Magic and the Wonder, but for my satisfaction, the information below is all I need to form my opinion.

Fantasy 2015: September has 3 cruises with only 1 category left with available cabins. 1 cruise in Sept. has 3 available cabin categories.
October has 1 cruise with no cabins, 3 with 3 cabins and 1 with availability in all 4 categories.
November has 4 cruises with availability in all 4 categories
December has 1 cruise with availability in 1 category, one cruise with 2 categories and the other 2 cruises have all categories

Dream 2015: September has 1 cruise this month left to book and it only has 1 category left to book.
October has 1 cruise with only 1 category and 2 with 2 categories.
November has 7 cruises with 3 categories with cabins available to book and 2 sail dates with all 4 categories available.
December has 5 cruises with 3 cabin categories available and 4 will all 4 cabin categories available to book.

Now, the most interesting thing I found, in 2016:

The Fantasy has 16 cruises between Sept. and Dec. and ALL of them have all 4 categories available to book. The Dream has 32 cruise between the time frame I looked at and ALL of them have all 4 categories available to book.

So, I believe, the alcohol policy is profit driven. They aren't filling the ships and therefore have to squeeze every penny from the passengers they do have. Just beware they are more "nickel and dime" charges coming soon........

I posted this in another thread, but maybe it's more appropriate here. Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[TheLanes]

I posted this in another thread, but maybe it's more appropriate here. Just my 2 cents worth.

I'm not sure anyone expects them to be 100% full when they say they are sailing "full". Sounds dumb right? I'm sure anywhere's over 95% occupied is "full" to them and puts them in their Happy place

 

[Fuzzywuzzy]

 

[Ofinn]

I'm not sure anyone expects them to be 100% full when they say they are sailing "full". Sounds dumb right? I'm sure anywhere's over 95% occupied is "full" to them and puts them in their Happy place

I dont think a lot of people realize how many discounts were offered over the last year to get the ships to 95% capacity. Not only gt rates well below opening day prices, but many discounts were available that are not offered to the general public. It wasnt just on a few cruises it was most of them. Yes discounts have slowed down and the few offered kind of suck. Going forward it will be interesting to see how the cruises sell. The star wars cruises seem to be doing well but the other cruises not so much. My point is from what ive seen since 2014 and the first 5 months of this year Disney hasnt been able to fill their ships without dumping prices. Maybe thats why they need to increase revenue on alcohol sales.

 

[southerngirl528]

statistically valid poll

Forgive me, but

Again, I never participated in the BYOB leniency, and really don't care either way, but that statement above is hilarious!!! "Statistically valid"??? Oh my.

As consumers each of us has the option to choose where, when and with whom we spend our hard-earned dollars. When I'm not happy with a company's policy, I simply don't patronize them. Write a well-written letter to DCL if you feel so strongly about it. What I have found most amusing and befuddling is the intolerance on this thread for anyone that feels differently. Very telling…….

 

[C6PT7]

Forgive me, but

Again, I never participated in the BYOB leniency, and really don't care either way, but that statement above is hilarious!!! "Statistically valid"??? Oh my.

As consumers each of us has the option to choose where, when and with whom we spend our hard-earned dollars. When I'm not happy with a company's policy, I simply don't patronize them. Write a well-written letter to DCL if you feel so strongly about it. What I have found most amusing and befuddling is the intolerance on this thread for anyone that feels differently. Very telling…….

How is it any less valid than a poll conducted by disney taking a sample of pax?
Yes there are only two answers, but given that you have a choice to vote or not to on either does not make one more valid than the other?
Do you think a disney conducted poll would be non partisan and the questions not loaded in their favor?

 

[Ofinn]

The intolerance stems from being accussed of being an alcoholic because you want to bring alcohol onboard. If your befuddled why people get a little annoyed by that well that is simply very telling....

 

[princess z]

It is evident that most of us are upset with the policy change in regards to the alcohol.

Most of you write so well in these post. I urge you to send these sentiments to :

dcl.guest.communications@disneycruise.com

Like most of you, I too love Disney and it has become part of my life. I have gone to Disney every year since I am 5 years old. I will be 50 next year. I am a DVC owner and most recently started cruising (only on Disney of course).

As the vacation planner for my friends and family, I persuade everyone to follow me on my Disney vacations each year. However, to be honest, it is a big sell to the people in my group to persuade them to foot the bill of the Disney cruise. It is significantly more money than the other lines. Bringing on your own alcohol did help bring some savings, which made the cost of the cruise a little more comparable to the other cruise lines.

Sadly, I may have lost my group from wanting to resail on Disney any more.

Once again, let us all email disney with our concerns:

dcl.guest.communications@disneycruise.com

Thank you

 

[TheLanes]

Forgive me, but

Again, I never participated in the BYOB leniency, and really don't care either way, but that statement above is hilarious!!! "Statistically valid"??? Oh my.

As consumers each of us has the option to choose where, when and with whom we spend our hard-earned dollars. When I'm not happy with a company's policy, I simply don't patronize them. Write a well-written letter to DCL if you feel so strongly about it. What I have found most amusing and befuddling is the intolerance on this thread for anyone that feels differently. Very telling…….

You obviously have no sense of humor. At all. Period. Re read my post and tell me it's not obvious I was being tounge in cheek

 

[MillauFr]

You obviously have no sense of humor. At all. Period. Re read my post and tell me it's not obvious I was being tounge in cheek

Some people have no sense of humor.

 

[princess z]

SIGN THE DISNEY CRUISE LINE ALCOHOL POLICY PETITION!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/DCLprohibitiongate2015
Made August 26 - BE ONE OF THE FIRST TO SIGN!
Disney Cruise Line's new Alcohol Policy is messing with your $$ by refusing liquor to be carried on-board and only allowing beer or wine/champagne in small amounts. Ready to pay more for your drinks? CONSIDERABLY MORE? If not, then vote! Share the petition! Use the hashtag #DCLprohibitiongate2015 in your posts on facebook, twitter and in all other social media! Don't be discouraged, this affects many more who don't even realize it yet. SIGN!

Search the internet for #DCLprohibitiongate2015 to view recent posts.

Email DCL with your complaints: DCL.guest.communications@disneycruise.com

Post your complaints on the Disney Cruise Line Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/DisneyCruiseLine?tsid=0.6...

Take it to Twitter and post to Facebook using #DCLprohibitiongate2015 in your post.

This is a great idea. Perhaps, you should start a new thread with this post that has its own heading to attract more people?

 

[southerngirl528]

You obviously have no sense of humor. At all. Period. Re read my post and tell me it's not obvious I was being tounge in cheek

Wrong again. Actually in all my circles, I am well known for having a fabulous sense of humor. But that doesn't mean I can't have an opinion just like you, dearie. IF there was a sense of humor on this thread and specifically your posts, there wouldn't be such knee jerk responses. I will repeat again, if you feel so strongly WRITE A polite, but firm letter on how you feel and WHY. You are far more apt to get results you are wanting in that manner. And again, you have a choice. Sail DCL or don't. THOSE are the points I was making. Now, have a MAGICAL day!

 

[Grumpy_74]

I dont think a lot of people realize how many discounts were offered over the last year to get the ships to 95% capacity. Not only gt rates well below opening day prices, but many discounts were available that are not offered to the general public. It wasnt just on a few cruises it was most of them. Yes discounts have slowed down and the few offered kind of suck. Going forward it will be interesting to see how the cruises sell. The star wars cruises seem to be doing well but the other cruises not so much. My point is from what ive seen since 2014 and the first 5 months of this year Disney has not been able to fill their ships without dumping prices. Maybe that's why they need to increase revenue on alcohol sales.

New to this thread, so I apologize in advance if anyone has already stated this ... but ... it's too bad there's no way to truly track how much business they lose from the BYOB and people jumping ship to other lines vs. what they were seeing before. It appears that quite a few have other booked with other lines, and that many more are exploring options.

I think this may be even more widespread following this actually being put into place. I have a sneaking suspicion there are oh so many more people booked for cruises that have no idea whatsoever that that is in place due to the sneaky and underhanded manner that it was implemented. It will be really interesting to see what happens come implementation date and following, how true people stay to their beloved Disney. Is the potential few hundred in sales truly worth the bookings they may be loosing for entire cabins - so a family, souvenirs, etc. vs. mom and dad being able to bring a bottle of rum to enjoy in their room. In my mind, it seems ridiculous that the nickle and dime for alcohol is being put in place, but as with anything else, we shall see

‪#‎DCLprohibitiongate2015‬

 

[TheLanes]

New to this thread, so I apologize in advance if anyone has already stated this ... but ... it's too bad there's no way to truly track how much business they lose from the BYOB and people jumping ship to other lines vs. what they were seeing before. It appears that quite a few have other booked with other lines, and that many more are exploring options.

I think this may be even more widespread following this actually being put into place. I have a sneaking suspicion there are oh so many more people booked for cruises that have no idea whatsoever that that is in place due to the sneaky and underhanded manner that it was implemented. It will be really interesting to see what happens come implementation date and following, how true people stay to their beloved Disney. Is the potential few hundred in sales truly worth the bookings they may be loosing for entire cabins - so a family, souvenirs, etc. vs. mom and dad being able to bring a bottle of rum to enjoy in their room. In my mind, it seems ridiculous that the nickle and dime for alcohol is being put in place, but as with anything else, we shall see

‪#‎DCLprohibitiongate2015‬

They will continue to sail "full" and make lots of money. I think it's more than hundreds they make from alcohol sale, unless you meant per person. Add that up over a cruise though.

 

[keaster]

Of course it's about money! If it was about curtailing alcohol abuse/usage, they would ban ALL carry on alcohol. They are banning the hard stuff because people come on board with their mini Magic Bullets and make their own pina coladas and mixed drinks in their room instead of at the bar, ergo less money spent at the bar.

 

[Grumpy_74]

They will continue to sail "full" and make lots of money. I think it's more than hundreds they make from alcohol sale, unless you meant per person. Add that up over a cruise though.

Yes - I mean per person. So, even assuming you have 2 adults per cabin that you will make a few hundred on for alcohol, that does not make up for the actual cruise cost of a family canceling their cruise to go elsewhere.

And they aren't sailing full now, so why do you think this will change now that they've ticked so many off? Yes, there are new families they can book, but many of those will be one and done due to the cost. Their loyal, repeat Customers are the ones they are losing. And the returning ones are your more guaranteed money.

 

[Duhey2]

As consumers each of us has the option to choose where, when and with whom we spend our hard-earned dollars. When I'm not happy with a company's policy, I simply don't patronize them.

You're right but your sage advice doesn't help those of us past our PIF dates.

 

[DMMarla07860]

You must never had a job that makes tips as your livelihood. Most bartenders keep serving well past the point they should be. There are some that do care, especially if they think they may be driving. On a cruise ship, not so much

some will and some won't. I saw one bartender tell a 19 year old to go get a parent or adult to sign a form so he could drink, this was in Europe. I was actually surprised. I've seen ones who don't care, but seen more who actually care when I cruised DCL. Once I also saw one refuse to server a guy since he had too much, this was back in 2006