Political: Article on masculinity and election-year rhetoric

The New York Times' marching orders of "All the News That's Fit to Print" has, in the last several years, been trashed by over-indulgence, agenda-laden, so-called reportage, and the destruction of the former standard in American newspapers by their obsession with affirmative action programs and turning a blind-eye to all the lies and calumny printed in their-once heralded pages.

This piece, by Frank Rich, was clearly written with the help of a case of Schlitz or Miller Lite. There is no clear line, no clear conclusion-- and is a total confusion of themes.

His conclusion that "it's not necessarily the best man but the best actor that will win", betrays the sour grapes of this obvious left-wing, so-called editorialist in the nation's largest circulation yellow rag.

Frank Rich is clearly beside himself with the knowledge that Kerry is done and Bush will see another 4 years in the White House. Nothing could infuriate a Lefty more.

Isn't it curious that John Kerry chose to base his campaign upon his 4 month service in Vietnam over 35 years ago rather than his more recent twenty year so-called service to the people of Massachussetts in the United States Senate? 4 months of heroic service in Vietnam does not trump twenty years of a waste-of-time Senatorial career. Kerry has the worst voting attendance record of any Senator, even absent for key liberal agenda votes. The silence at the Convention in Boston about Kerry's Senate career was done out of necessity rather than choice. Of Kerry's 20 years in the Senate, there really is nothing to discuss. But, of Kerry's four months in Vietnam, there is action, heroics, medals, blood, and sacrifice. This does not qualify Kerry to be President---just as John McCain's bravery and steadfastness and the Hanoi Hilton does not qualify him to be President either. While it helps that a candidate is a "war hero", it does not necessarily qualify him to be President. (Douglas MacArthur, perhaps the greatest General of WWII, could not possibly have been the President because of his ideas about governance and the relationship of the military and the Executive. This is why Truman relieved him of command during the Korean war. . .much to the horror of MacArthur himself, and his many millions of supporters.)

The terrible horrible gnawing fear of those on the Left is that George W. Bush, the former Daddy's boy and President of the Texas Rangers, will most likely surpass Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, and be known to history as one of the greatest Presidents this country has seen.

When Bush came into office, amidst all the stupidity and rancor of the Florida elections, very few expected great things from this man. As we have now seen, Bush has grown into the office of President. Bush IS the President, and will be for the next four years. Thank Goodness for that! When the history of this time is written, John Kerry and his confused followers will be but a footnote in this savage time of dealing with a vicious and cruel enemy. For Kerry and his followers, the war we are currently engaged in is about a national healthcare plan, jobs for Ohioans and West Virginians, and an increase in the minimum wage. For Bush, the war is about nothing less than national survival. One of these perspectives is deeply confused and built upon denial and Utopianism.

One can't blame Frank Rich for analyzing the campaign from a Vietnam perspective, because that is how the Democratic candidate has characterized it. Kerry cannot run on his Senate record because he hasn't got one. Zell Miller pointed that out very clearly. While we appreciate John Kerry's service to our country, this does not, despite his angry attestations, make him qualified to be our President. Mr. Rich, despite his high-paying byline at the NYT is neither a great analyst nor is he insightful. His finely constructed sentences are nothing more than the indulgence of an over-indulged columnist for a has-been newspaper that has not yet realized that its time has passed.
 
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Offers an interesting reflection on issues of masculinity and election-year rhetoric.
This piece IS election year rhetoric.
I posted it because I think it's important to read things that aren't necessarily pro-Bush or pro-Kerry, but are reflections on the process itself.
You are right, it is important. But I am confused, if you really feel that way then why don't you post something that ISN'T pro-Bush or pro-Kerry?
 
Just out of curiosity to all, what particular news sources do you find to be unbiased? Have you found any newspaper or television sources that are? I haven't found any good, reliable ones. It seems like most out there are either spun to the right or left.

Not trying to be facetious here, just geuinely interested in what people have to say.
 

Originally posted by MinnieYC
Just out of curiosity to all, what particular news sources do you find to be unbiased? Have you found any newspaper or television sources that are? I haven't found any good, reliable ones. It seems like most out there are either spun to the right or left.

Not trying to be facetious here, just genuinely interested in what people have to say.

Just to be clear (IMO). What Frank Rich does is commentary, not reporting.

I get my news from the newspaper, TV , internet and radio.
 
MinnieYC, in my experience at a television station, there is no such thing as an unbiased news source. Over the past 20 years, the news business has become so much more competitive that media outlets struggle to distinguish themselves. The easiest way for outlets to distinguish themselves is to insert opinions into their news. It's all about business. Straight news doesn't get the ratings/circulation that inserting opinion does.
 
Originally posted by jrydberg
MinnieYC, in my experience at a television station, there is no such thing as an unbiased news source. Over the past 20 years, the news business has become so much more competitive that media outlets struggle to distinguish themselves. The easiest way for outlets to distinguish themselves is to insert opinions into their news. It's all about business. Straight news doesn't get the ratings/circulation that inserting opinion does.

In your opinion, jrydberg, how would you characterize that slant/opinion. . .to the right? Or, to the left?
 
Just out of curiosity to all, what particular news sources do you find to be unbiased? Have you found any newspaper or television sources that are? I haven't found any good, reliable ones. It seems like most out there are either spun to the right or left.

i really like the washington post. do i think it is unbiased when taken as a whole? no. but i find they do present articles with both liberal and conservative viewpoints.

overall, i think the best strategy for finding an 'unbiased' news source is to get your news from many different outlets.
 
Well, in my view, it probably tends a bit more to the left just due to the nature of the business of journalism. Conservatives tend to want to leave things alone more than liberals. Journalists generally don't want to leave things alone -- they want to point out problems and be involved in bringing about a change.

That said, there are certainly more media outlets with a right leaning bias than there were, say 10 years ago.

I don't think there's any conscious effort by media outlets to push a left wing agenda. But there is a serious effort to push more opinion into journalism for business purposes. And that opinion tends more towards liberal than conservative in traditional news media because the people who work as reporters tend to be more on the liberal end of the spectrum. That's just the way it works out given the nature of the business.
 
Originally posted by jrydberg
Well, in my view, it probably tends a bit more to the left just due to the nature of the business of journalism. Conservatives tend to want to leave things alone more than liberals. Journalists generally don't want to leave things alone -- they want to point out problems and be involved in bringing about a change.

That said, there are certainly more media outlets with a right leaning bias than there were, say 10 years ago.

I don't think there's any conscious effort by media outlets to push a left wing agenda. But there is a serious effort to push more opinion into journalism for business purposes. And that opinion tends more towards liberal than conservative in traditional news media because the people who work as reporters tend to be more on the liberal end of the spectrum. That's just the way it works out given the nature of the business.

Thanks for your response. Let me ask you another question, then, based on your answer.

You state that most of the outlets tend to lean a bit left. And, you also state that there are more media outlets that lean right than there were 10 years ago.

I agree with your statement, but do you agree with this: The Right-leaning outlets proudly state they are Right. For instance, there's a lot of talk radio that is leaning right. However, they TALK about this, and people use them for the sole purpose of hearing Conservative opinion--especially conservative opinion that points out the bias in the news, rather than news. With the exception of Fox, which I consider to be unbiased, but those on the left consider to be very biased, most left-leaning bias is in the mainstream press which continue to deny any bias at all--most newspapers, most television, most radio--notably npr, etc. , while the right leaning bias tends to be in outlets that proudly state that, in fact, they are biased.
 
With the exception of Fox, which I consider to be unbiased, but those on the left consider to be very biased, most left-leaning bias is in the mainstream press which continue to deny any bias at all--most newspapers, most television, most radio--notably npr, etc. , while the right leaning bias tends to be in outlets that proudly state that, in fact, they are biased.

if you think fox is unbiased, i can certainly think that npr is unbiased.
 
Is Fox even news? I just assumed it was entertainment...
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Well, let me clarify just a bit, if I may. I didn't consider talk radio as a news outlet. I consider Rush Limbaugh and such radio shows to be akin to The McLaughlin Group, The Capital Gang, etc. They are shows that are overtly opinion based on the news.

Fox News, in my opinion (whatever that's worth) has a bit of a right leaning bias to it, but no more of a bias than most news organizations. They made a conscious choice, IMO, to lean to the right to fill a niche in the market for news. It was a prudent business decision.

Bottom line, I don't particularly care whether I get the news from Fox, CNN, BBC, AFP, etc. Generally I get news from multiple sources and I can filter out their opinions easily enough.

Getting news from one source is as problematic as a reporter going with a story based on one source.
 
Kendra, so many words in that sentence, lol. If you are asking does the left-leaning media admit or promote that they are left-leaning the way right-leaning sources do, I'd have to laugh! The sources leaning left claim to be unopinionated (just the news) either because they hope people are so dumb as to not see it or because they are so wrapped up in it, they themselves don't see it.

Best bet, read all and discount about half.
 
Originally posted by disney4us2002
Kendra, so many words in that sentence, lol. If you are asking does the left-leaning media admit or promote that they are left-leaning the way right-leaning sources do, I'd have to laugh! The sources leaning left claim to be unopinionated (just the news) either because they hope people are so dumb as to not see it or because they are so wrapped up in it, they themselves don't see it.

Best bet, read all and discount about half.

hahah. . .I had a bit of trouble with that sentence, and must have re-written it half a dozen times before posting! Maybe I ought to have given it one more re-write.

Btw, I agree with your assessment of the news.
 
Thanks for the opinions, everyone. I never really thought there is a true unbiased source, but I did want to see what everyone thinks. I do agree that getting news from a variety of sources is a good idea...I wish we all had more hours in the day to do this!!!

Elwood Blues-
I never said anything about Frank Rich. I never take editorials to be reporting. They are just that, editorials.

Kendra-
Not every right-wing biased news source proudly claims to be to the right. Fox claims to be fair and balanced, but it's more like fair and balanced within the right-wing world.
 
Originally posted by MinnieYC
Kendra-
Not every right-wing biased news source proudly claims to be to the right. Fox claims to be fair and balanced, but it's more like fair and balanced within the right-wing world.

I am not disagreeing with you, except that I think the right-wing world holds the fair and balanced view! lol!;)

You definitely have a point. . .but, FOX is the only news source that's LIKE this. The left-wing world has all the rest. And, to add insult to injury, npr is supposed to be ESPECIALLY balanced. . .which it's not.
 











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