Plan Ahead with Lightning Lane Entry at Walt Disney World Starting July 24

[BrianL]

Here's my only question on all this - as I think you've all established pretty well you can hold 3 at a time. How many of which tiers can you hold ??? Or does it not matter ?

Initial booking you can only book 1 tier 1 ride. But if I book Tier 2 @ 9am, tier 2 @ 10am, and Tier 1 @ 4pm (cuz that's the earliest I could get it) - does that mean I'm locked out of Tier 1 rides until I use the Tier 1 @ 4pm ???

It seems that Tiers only matter for the pre-booked selections and not for day-of additional selections. Of course, that assumes that any Tier 1 attractions actually have day-of availability, but still.

 

[jelona]

Here's my only question on all this - as I think you've all established pretty well you can hold 3 at a time. How many of which tiers can you hold ??? Or does it not matter ?

Initial booking you can only book 1 tier 1 ride. But if I book Tier 2 @ 9am, tier 2 @ 10am, and Tier 1 @ 4pm (cuz that's the earliest I could get it) - does that mean I'm locked out of Tier 1 rides until I use the Tier 1 @ 4pm ???

Unfortunately, i think no one will really no till it plays out.

Hopefully that will be the case, That would be a great strategy to utilize. Book something like Dumbo at park opening and then tap in to get another tier 1. I would try, but I'm too scared if I book throw aways right off the bat I've messed up my day. So my goal on the 24th is to book my tier 1 as early as I can.

 

[Tom_E_D]

That makes sense. I guess in my head i would just think there was a way to do more planning with it. But I don't have an IT Background. So I get that sometimes its easier said than done....

But then I also go "Disney is a major multi-billion dollar corp.... surely they can figure it out" lol. I think it just boils down to .... They don't really care too. They will get their money from me regardless.

I'm not a computer programmer, but I agree there should be a way to do it better. But Disney IT has a well-deserved bad reputation, and I think this is just the way they have/chose to to do it.

 

[Jellybean9]

Due to Disney’s provided graphics, I’m starting to strongly suspect that you’re not going to be able to book LL times that overlap (similar to original FP+) which would be a huge bummer. I guess at park open you could immediately use your first LL and then try to modify your next pre-select LL to an earlier time?Or maybe LL#4 will hopefully have an immediate return time?

 

[DisFanDad]

It seems that Tiers only matter for the pre-booked selections and not for day-of additional selections. Of course, that assumes that any Tier 1 attractions actually have day-of availability, but still.

Excellent that you (both of you who answered) - SO ... is the strategy going to be book a Tier 1 for Mid day, (close to when you intend to leave the park) and book a Tier 2 for immediate park opening, so you can start to cycle new LLs asap ?

Sounds like it to me.

 

[BrianL]

Excellent that you (both of you who answered) - SO ... is the strategy going to be book a Tier 1 for Mid day, (close to when you intend to leave the park) and book a Tier 2 for immediate park opening, so you can start to cycle new LLs asap ?

Sounds like it to me.

I don't hink it matters which one you use first. As long as you use one, then you can book another. If Tier 1 attractions area vailable, you can get one, even if you used your Tier 2 selection.

 

[Disney Dad ADL]

Excellent that you (both of you who answered) - SO ... is the strategy going to be book a Tier 1 for Mid day, (close to when you intend to leave the park) and book a Tier 2 for immediate park opening, so you can start to cycle new LLs asap ?

Sounds like it to me.

If you're really trying to min-max this, then it will likely be to book all your FPs as early as possible. Even if your plan is to dump your tier 2 LLs, you still would want your tier 1 LL as early as possible, otherwise it's wasting a slot. You want to always be using your LLs as fast as possible

As an aside, if I were to guess, I think the system will be that you can hold 3 FPs but no other limitations, not necessarily "you have to use 1 to book 1" which is slightly different. It wouldn't make sense for someone who didn't make any prebooked selections, or just made 1 prebooked LL for example to just only get to use 1 at a time while everyone else gets to have 3 rolling LLs.

My guess would be, yes you can cancel a Tier 2 for a Tier 1 on the day of. And also if you only prebook 1 LL then you could book 2 more on the day of as soon as you get there.

 

[jelona]

i wish i could go back to Earlier this week me when i was just sad about the Waffles at Sleepy Hollow being different.
Those were simplier times....

I feel like alot has been dropped this week. Peter pan will now be down for Refurb during my trip as well.. So there is a Tier 1 ride out of the running for my trip.

So i guess summer is now true off season for Disney. During my stay, there will be no Rockin Rollercoaster, Test Track, or Peter Pan. Are all three of those Tier 1s?

Oh... and I'm still hurt about the waffles and hushpuppies at Columbia Harbor House.

 

[irlandaise]

As an aside, if I were to guess, I think the system will be that you can hold 3 FPs but no other limitations, not necessarily "you have to use 1 to book 1" which is slightly different. It wouldn't make sense for someone who didn't make any prebooked selections, or just made 1 prebooked LL for example to just only get to use 1 at a time while everyone else gets to have 3 rolling LLs.

All the discussions of "use one, book one" I've seen so far have assumed that someone is already holding three reservations. That's certainly how I've been referring to the rolling bookings. If you have fewer than three, then certainly you can add more at any time.

 

[irlandaise]

During my stay, there will be no Rockin Rollercoaster, Test Track, or Peter Pan. Are all three of those Tier 1s?

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/lightning-lane-passes/

 

[jelona]

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/lightning-lane-passes/

Test tracks not on there... I guess due to Refurb. But I'm assuming it will probably be a Tier 1.

 

[Disney Dad ADL]

All the discussions of "use one, book one" I've seen so far have assumed that someone is already holding three reservations. That's certainly how I've been referring to the rolling bookings. If you have fewer than three, then certainly you can add more at any time.

That is what I think will happen, but I don’t think all the discourse is holding that assumption (and it is still a huge assumption despite being my guess as to what will happen). Otherwise any discussion regarding having to tap in, throw away LLs, can I cancel an LL, etc would all be moot, but those are actively being discussed (which to be clear is perfectly reasonable to discuss).

I wonder whether or not they will require you to go to the park to start booking on the day of, that will be a big deal I think.

 

[cat4hurricane]

Here's my only question on all this - as I think you've all established pretty well you can hold 3 at a time. How many of which tiers can you hold ??? Or does it not matter ?

Initial booking you can only book 1 tier 1 ride. But if I book Tier 2 @ 9am, tier 2 @ 10am, and Tier 1 @ 4pm (cuz that's the earliest I could get it) - does that mean I'm locked out of Tier 1 rides until I use the Tier 1 @ 4pm ???

My understanding was prebooking, you were limited to 1 T1 pick, and 2 T2 picks (for all parks except AK, which doesn’t have tiers), and then day of, in the park you can use up your first FP+ Paid pick, and get another T1 or any ride you wanted that uses FP+ Paid instead of single ride.

So, pre-book 3 options, one being T1, use one, pick any ride you want that has times left, including T1 once inside the park. Doing that, you could theoretically hold 3 T1 picks, assuming they have slots available for you to choose from. The only time you’re limited in terms of what tiers you can pick is during pre-book, and you can hold a max of 3 FP+ Paid. If you wanted and you’ve used up your first FP+ paid slot, you could absolutely transition all of your FP+ Paid picks into T1 ride FP+ Paid picks, once you’re inside the park.

Small edit: if you wanted, once you’re inside the park, you could turn all your FP+ Paid picks into T2 rides, assuming you’ve used your first prebooked option and are allowed to reallocate your one T1 ride (if you really just want to do all T2, usually I see it as people wanting all T1 rides).

 

[DisFanDad]

If you're really trying to min-max this, then it will likely be to book all your FPs as early as possible. Even if your plan is to dump your tier 2 LLs, you still would want your tier 1 LL as early as possible, otherwise it's wasting a slot. You want to always be using your LLs as fast as possible

As an aside, if I were to guess, I think the system will be that you can hold 3 FPs but no other limitations, not necessarily "you have to use 1 to book 1" which is slightly different. It wouldn't make sense for someone who didn't make any prebooked selections, or just made 1 prebooked LL for example to just only get to use 1 at a time while everyone else gets to have 3 rolling LLs.

My guess would be, yes you can cancel a Tier 2 for a Tier 1 on the day of. And also if you only prebook 1 LL then you could book 2 more on the day of as soon as you get there.

I think this is incorrect. If you can only Pre-book 1 Tier 1 LL, and the others much be Tier 2 - but you can replace them with any attraction after use - you'd reserve a Tier 1 as far out in the day as you'd expect to be there, then you'd want to burn your other 2 LLs as quickly as possible, one of them you'd want to also rebook as far out in the day as you can, for a Tier 1 ride. The other (the third LL) you'd book for something as soon as possible, then you'd constantly be cycling that LL, use it, rebook it, use it, rebook it. All while holding 2 more guaranteed ride skips for later in the day. This would maximize the number of LL's used, and provide the best insurance of the quality (or importance or tier) of the rides you are booking.

 

[dcfromva]

Guests staying at a Disney Resort hotel and other select hotels will be able to plan Lightning Lane passes up to 7 days in advance, for their entire stay (up to 14 days). All other guests can plan up to 3 days in advance.

I suppose I will never get to the step of making reservation because I cannot get my Disney Resort Hotel to link in My Disney Experience nor can I get my ticket media to scan in, either, so I can't make a park reservation. (I've never had a problem with either before, but anyway...)

Assuming I can solve the first two hurdles what happens when you have a group staying on property, but staying at different resorts and the check in dates are different? My sister is staying her whole length of stay at one resort, but I was only able to piece together single nights at different resorts. I doubt I will be able to sync up with them. Too bad, so sad?

 

[cat4hurricane]

I think that’s probably the best way to min-max, definitely a mix of grabbing whatever is earliest (even if it’s a ride you wouldn’t do otherwise) and burning the LLs/FP+ Paid plus, and then grabbing whatever it is you want with the next closest time. I’m sure in this case that the old FP+ min/maxing strategies apply, especially since once you’re in the park, the only thing limiting you from grabbing everything is whatever else you’re deciding to do (food breaks, bathroom breaks, shopping) and the inventory (slots will be gone for some rides).

 

[Disney Dad ADL]

I think this is incorrect. If you can only Pre-book 1 Tier 1 LL, and the others much be Tier 2 - but you can replace them with any attraction after use - you'd reserve a Tier 1 as far out in the day as you'd expect to be there, then you'd want to burn your other 2 LLs as quickly as possible, one of them you'd want to also rebook as far out in the day as you can, for a Tier 1 ride. The other (the third LL) you'd book for something as soon as possible, then you'd constantly be cycling that LL, use it, rebook it, use it, rebook it. All while holding 2 more guaranteed ride skips for later in the day. This would maximize the number of LL's used, and provide the best insurance of the quality (or importance or tier) of the rides you are booking.

So we are assuming that 1) Tiers don't matter the day of and 2) everytime you use an LL you can book a new one (even the second one and the third one)

First off, if we believe the above to be true, then tier 1 and tier 2 LLs all become equivalent when the day starts, it doesn't really matter which is which. 8 AM Tier 2, 9 AM Tier 2, 3 PM Tier 1 vs 8 AM Tier 1, 9 AM Tier 2, 3 PM Tier 2 are both equivalent states, so booking a Tier 1 in the afternoon vs a tier 2 in the afternoon with your strategy doesn't make a difference.

Your proposal is to do the following

8 AM - Haunted Mansion
9 AM - Pirates
5 PM - Big Thunder

Then enter the park and go on Haunted Mansion, then have the following:

9 AM - Pirates
5 PM - BIg Thunder
6 PM - Space Mountain

And then at that point do Pirates 9 AM, Small World 9:20 AM, Dumbo 9:40 AM, Teacups 10 AM like that? All while holding a 5 PM Big Thunder and 6 PM Space?

I guess if you are certain you can accomplish that it would work, but I don't think that's what I would try to do. It seems like a lot would have to go right to make it run smoothly

 

[crvetter]

So we are assuming that 1) Tiers don't matter the day of and 2) everytime you use an LL you can book a new one (even the second one and the third one)

First off, if we believe the above to be true, then tier 1 and tier 2 LLs all become equivalent when the day starts, it doesn't really matter which is which. 8 AM Tier 2, 9 AM Tier 2, 3 PM Tier 1 vs 8 AM Tier 1, 9 AM Tier 2, 3 PM Tier 2 are both equivalent states, so booking a Tier 1 in the afternoon vs a tier 2 in the afternoon with your strategy doesn't make a difference.

Your proposal is to do the following

8 AM - Haunted Mansion
9 AM - Pirates
5 PM - Big Thunder

Then enter the park and go on Haunted Mansion, then have the following:

9 AM - Pirates
5 PM - BIg Thunder
6 PM - Space Mountain

And then at that point do Pirates 9 AM, Small World 9:20 AM, Dumbo 9:40 AM, Teacups 10 AM like that? All while holding a 5 PM Big Thunder and 6 PM Space?

I guess if you are certain you can accomplish that it would work, but I don't think that's what I would try to do. It seems like a lot would have to go right to make it run smoothly

Jumping in with what I think based on all the information out there is tiers matter up to the point that you use one LL, I don't think it is because the day turned over. So your proposal is aligned with the way I think it will work and is in agreement with Disney's Page:

Once you redeem a selection on the day of your park visit, you can choose another multi pass experience from either group (subject to availability).

So I think that minor distinction will matter, because if it was day of flag for tiers mattering you could try to "modify" to be all Tier 1, in the morning (but I'll be trying to see if that works, but I doubt it will). I think they won't let you do that until you have used any one of the LLs. But I think you meant day of, after using one LL based on your post, so I think we agree there.

 

[Disney Dad ADL]

Jumping in with what I think based on all the information out there is tiers matter up to the point that you use one LL, I don't think it is because the day turned over. So your proposal is aligned with the way I think it will work and is in agreement with Disney's Page:

So I think that minor distinction will matter, because if it was day of flag for tiers mattering you could try to "modify" to be all Tier 1, in the morning (but I'll be trying to see if that works, but I doubt it will). I think they won't let you do that until you have used any one of the LLs. But I think you meant day of, after using one LL based on your post, so I think we agree there.

I guess we will find out in a month, lol. Godspeed to the brave pioneers of July 24, 2024

 

[Mouse Tracker]

July 24, 2024

A date that will live in Infamy