Plan Ahead with Lightning Lane Entry at Walt Disney World Starting July 24

[FLCA026]

I'd like to clarify a couple things as a few of the posts have gotten me confused. (the lists of attractions are made up)
1. I have an LLMP for Tiana, Buzz and HM. Tiana goes down, but my return time is a couple hours away. Does my LL become an MEP or does the time the attraction goes down have to be closer to my return time for it to convert to an MEP? (I read where someone got one before park opening)
2. I have LLMPs for Tiana, Buzz and HM. Tiana and Buzz both go down and are replaced with MEPs. Is there a way to tell which MEP is the Tier 1? I wouldn't want to accidentally use the tier 1 on a tier 2 attraction and miss out on the tier 1.
3. I have LLMPs for Tiana, Buzz and HM. Tiana goes down and becomes an MEP. (From what I've been reading) at that time I can get another tier 1 LL before even tapping into any of the rides? Do I need to modify a tier 2 in order to get the tier 1 or just get another LL (which would give me 3 LLMPS and an MEP - total: 4).
Thanks!
Also, has anyone been successful in modifying Tiana? I've been trying for 2 days and feel like I'm wasting my time. I've been told it probably won't happen.

Just a follow-up to an observation I had about being able to overlap MPLL times while pre-booking, which I was surprised about.
I’m here now, and other posters are correct about being able to overlap more significantly day of, in the park.
Last night at Magic Kingdom, I was able to get fast passes within even 10 minutes of each other. This is so different from FP+!
I had used all three earlier in the day at Epcot, so I secured three ahead of time for last evening at Magic Kingdom: Big Thunder, Peter Pan and Haunted Mansion. When we got off Big Thunder, we were able to get Space Mountain just 10 minutes later, even with my Haunted Mansion window opening 20 minutes later, and it worked that way the rest of the night. We did so many rides, there was lots of availability and we could’ve done more, but we were absolutely wiped out.
As a side note, at one point I refreshed and Tiana was available!

The same for us. We are back from our trip but definitely had overlapping in the park. We didn’t get Tiana in the beginning but kept checking and we got it while in the park. We also checked times on rides and were able to walk on.
The ride we didn’t get was Rise of the Resistance.

 

[spewey]

Modifying: I know you can modify LLMP, but can you modify LLSP return times?

Initial Booking: Not staying onsite, purchased a 1 day park hopper for 9/12/24. Does this mean we can purchase LLMP and LLSP at 7am on 9/9/24?

You can modify basically everything.

For example, our plans (arriving today) changed a few days ago. As we're in too late to do what I had booked for today, I moved our LLMPs from HS to MK for Wednesday (which was an open day for us), and also moved our TRON LLSP from today to then. All I had to do was pay the difference in LLMP price as MK is higher than HS (by $3).

Very easy.

 

[Dave006]

1. I have an LLMP for Tiana, Buzz and HM. Tiana goes down, but my return time is a couple hours away. Does my LL become an MEP or does the time the attraction goes down have to be closer to my return time for it to convert to an MEP?

Disney decides when to issue your MEP when an attraction is down and it varies. So just keep waiting for the update in MDE. If the attraction is down when you try to use your LLMP selection and you have not received a MEP check with a GET CM and they can review and updated your MDE as required.

2. I have LLMPs for Tiana, Buzz and HM. Tiana and Buzz both go down and are replaced with MEPs. Is there a way to tell which MEP is the Tier 1?

Yes each MEP has details on what attraction it is valid on. Just read the details on the MEP.

I have LLMPs for Tiana, Buzz and HM. Tiana goes down and becomes an MEP. (From what I've been reading) at that time I can get another tier 1 LL before even tapping into any of the rides?

Yes you can replace your Tiana with another Tier 1 based on the restrictions on the MEP. However remember that you have not unlocked Tiers or the ability to make addition additional LLMP selections in your current park or at another park until you actually tap into one of your LLMPs.

Dave

 

[Dave006]

If I cancel the park ticket element of my November package and change the 3 day ticket so that it is reserved for the days of my hotel reservation, can I still get the ability to book 7 days in advance, even though the park ticket isn't part of the hotel package?

Don't use the word cancel when you are talking the CM to remove your ticket. You really want to convert your Package to a ticketless Package. They have been know to sometimes cancel your entire package. Yes it should be rare but it has happened.

To have the 7 day advanced reservation window for length of stay or 14 days, you just need an on-site reservation at a Disney resort or the listed on property resorts.

Dave

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

The same for us. We are back from our trip but definitely had overlapping in the park. We didn’t get Tiana in the beginning but kept checking and we got it while in the park. We also checked times on rides and were able to walk on.
The ride we didn’t get was Rise of the Resistance.

Were you able to ride Ride using the standby line? The wait can get very short later in the evening.

We can usually get on three times over the last hour and a half or so of operation. The posted wait will still be on the 70-100 minute range though.

 

[FLCA026]

Were you able to ride Ride using the standby line? The wait can get very short later in the evening.

We can usually get on three time over the last hour and a half or so of operation. The posted wait will still be on the 70-100 minute range though.

We did not end up going on it. I think my husband was checking on the wait times. We filled in with other stuff and it all worked out.

 

[Skywalker3]

I've read through the thread, and I might've missed if anyone has experienced this scenario.
If I"m purchasing LLMP for my 2 kids and me...but we dont' want to do the same rides, should I buy theirs first, book their 3 rides, then go back in and do mine separately?
Like for HS they want: RnRC, ToT, TSMM, but I might only want TSMM, and 2 other things.
Or, if I did want to ride RnRC, NOT ToT, can I just tap in to ToT, then get out at chicken exit.
Same thing for later in day, Say we start day at HS, then go to Epcot, but kids each want different things, or one kid doesn't want to go to Epcot, so just buying for one kid.
Just trying to figure out best strategy when we might want different rides, or only some people in the party riding certain ones.
Thanks!!

 

[Dave006]

If I"m purchasing LLMP for my 2 kids and me...but we dont' want to do the same rides, should I buy theirs first, book their 3 rides, then go back in and do mine separately?

It varies based on how many days you are purchasing for in advance and if you are on-site or offsite with only a 3 day advance purchase window.

If you are only planning for a few days you should consider selecting all 3 the same and then modify your selections after your your purchase while other guests are modifying attraction times within the 5 minute window that selections are held during the purchase process. It is not very hard if you are only modifying 1 guest.

If you have a longer resort visit and plan to spread out your LLMP and/or LLSP days then you have slightly more flexibility.

Like for HS they want: RnRC, ToT, TSMM, but I might only want TSMM, and 2 other things.

Purchase all 3 the same and then modify your 2 other choices to keep your return times in sync for TTSM and replacement LLMP selections.

Or, if I did want to ride RnRC, NOT ToT, can I just tap in to ToT, then get out at chicken exit.

You certainly are able to walk through ToT and then take the Chicken Exit to keep you group together. This way as you walk through the Queue you can all pick your next LLMP selection together.

Say we start day at HS, then go to Epcot, but kids each want different things, or one kid doesn't want to go to Epcot, so just buying for one kid.

You can always decide to purchase for 1 guest or multiple guests. You select your Group during the purchase process for each day's park. We did not use the older Genie+ for Epcot or AK. You can always modify your LLMP selections subject to availability.

ETA: Correct response to @Skywalker3 based on the catch that @Tom_E_D found in my broken thought that jumbled up second paragraph for others playing along. It is hard enough to keep all this straight without me introducing more confusion. Thanks again @Tom_E_D.

Dave

 

[Simba's Mom]

Say my first ride is Tier 2 Buzz. When I get off, I can reserve another Tier 2. If available, can I reserve Buzz again? Or does it have to be a different Tier 2? Same question after I ride Tier 1, Jungle Cruise. After I get off, can I reserve Jungle Cruise again? Or does it have to be a different Tier 1?

 

[Skywalker3]

If you are only planning for a few days you should consider selecting all 3 the same and then modify your selections within the 5 minute window that your selections are held during the purchase process. It is not very hard if you are only modifying 1 guest.

Purchase all 3 the same and then modify your 2 other choices to keep your return times in sync for TTSM and replacement LLMP selections.


You certainly are able to walk through ToT and then take the Chicken Exit to keep you group together. This way as you walk through the Queue you can all pick your next LLMP selection together.


You can always decide to purchase for 1 guest or multiple guests. You select your Group during the purchase process for each day's park. We did not use the older Genie+ for Epcot or AK. You can always modify your LLMP selections subject to availability.

Dave

Thank you so much for the responses, and recommendations.
We'll likely only have 2 or 3 days tickets, but staying the week at BWV, in October. We usually have APs , but didn't renew this year, and go frequently, enough to know what our must-do rides are.
But with only 2 or 3 days, want to maximize our time best we can. I never used Genie+, but since the kids don't want to rope drop any more (which has been our tried and true way in the past) I think LLMP will help a lot with this trip. We don't mind at all splitting up, and often do,
I do plan on getting at least one ILL, for GotG,
I like the idea of just getting the same rides, then I'll try modifying.
Thanks for all the tips!!

 

[DJFan88]

Say my first ride is Tier 2 Buzz. When I get off, I can reserve another Tier 2. If available, can I reserve Buzz again? Or does it have to be a different Tier 2? Same question after I ride Tier 1, Jungle Cruise. After I get off, can I reserve Jungle Cruise again? Or does it have to be a different Tier 1?

After you tap in to your first ride, you may select any ride tier
And No- only one LL per day per ride. Recommend if you want to ride multiple times if you see a short stand by, ride that and modify LL to a different time/ride/pick later or just ride once standby and once LL

 

[Mambo Junkie]

Yes you can replace your Tiana with another Tier 1 based on the restrictions on the MEP. However remember that you have not unlocked Tiers or the ability to make addition additional LLMP selections in your current park or at another park until you actually tap into one of your LLMPs

Does this mean I lose my Tiana if I replace it with another tier 1?

...and thank you for the clarifications

 

[Tom_E_D]

Does this mean I lose my Tiana if I replace it with another tier 1?

...and thank you for the clarifications

You already lost your Tiana LLMP when it was converted to an MEP. The MEP can be used to ride Tiana (or most of the other LLMP rides in MK) but it is not a Tiana LLMP per se. BTW, I disagree with @Dave006 when he says you can book another LLMP "based on restrictions on the MEP." You can book another LLMP because you currently have only two LLMPs and they are both Tier 2. I think you can therefore book any available LLMP in Tier 1 (or Tier 2 if you prefer). The restrictions in the MEP will limit which rides the MEP can be used for (I believe Peter Pan will be excluded*). I do not think they would prevent you from booking Peter Pan, or Tiana again if available. You are entitled to have one Tier 1 LLMP, and the MEP doesn't count.

* - see post 3990

 

[TahoeMom]

I am getting ready to book our Lightning Lanes at 4am tomorrow morning (I am in the Pacific time zone). I know I can book all the LLs for our whole trip, but do I book one day and save/pay and then book the next day and save/pay or do I book all the days together at the same time?

 

[gottalovepluto]

Also, has anyone been successful in modifying Tiana? I've been trying for 2 days and feel like I'm wasting my time. I've been told it probably won't happen.

Looking at thrill data it's a waste of your time until day of. Depending on how it's operating depends on how much extra availability they smatter in throughout the day at that point. I've seen it pop a few times just randomly looking at LL stuff for the day and others have reported snagging it sometimes so that's gonna be your shot.

And don't be afraid to talk to an umbrella if you get bogged down in MEPs for some reason. They all throughout the park for a reason.

 

[gottalovepluto]

I am getting ready to book our Lightning Lanes at 4am tomorrow morning (I am in the Pacific time zone). I know I can book all the LLs for our whole trip, but do I book one day and save/pay and then book the next day and save/pay or do I book all the days together at the same time?

Each day is paid individually but the day's MP & SP can be purchased at the same time. This is why we tell people to have multiple credit cards/debit cards/gift cards at the ready in case one starts throwing fraud alerts.

 

[Tom_E_D]

It varies based on how many days you are purchasing for in advance and if you are on-site or offsite with only a 3 day advance purchase window.

If you are only planning for a few days you should consider selecting all 3 the same and then modify your selections within the 5 minute window that your selections are held during the purchase process. It is not very hard if you are only modifying 1 guest.

If you have a longer resort visit and plan to spread out your LLMP and/or LLSP days then you have slightly more flexibility.


Purchase all 3 the same and then modify your 2 other choices to keep your return times in sync for TTSM and replacement LLMP selections.


You certainly are able to walk through ToT and then take the Chicken Exit to keep you group together. This way as you walk through the Queue you can all pick your next LLMP selection together.


You can always decide to purchase for 1 guest or multiple guests. You select your Group during the purchase process for each day's park. We did not use the older Genie+ for Epcot or AK. You can always modify your LLMP selections subject to availability.

Dave

I thought that when you purchased LLMP, everyone in the group needed to have the same selections. That's what the Disneyworld website says* and I have not noticed any reports that contradict it. The 5-minute window precedes purchase. I think any modifications made then have to affect everyone. I think it is only after you complete the purchase that you can go in and make modifications that affect only one person. Have you done it differently or seen reports from people who have done it differently?

* - "When purchasing Lightning Lane Multi Passes for your travel party, you’ll be prompted to select up to 3 multi pass attractions or experiences—which must be the same for each member of your travel party at that time.
After completing your purchase, you can modify the selected experiences and arrival windows for some members of your travel party, subject to availability."

 

[Mambo Junkie]

Hey there! We plan on traveling to WDW for a long weekend on January 10-12, 2025 and will try to get the LLMP for Tiana, but because MK will be our first day and we don't plan to return for the rest of the weekend, we expecting it to be gone when we book our rides 7 days in advance (staying onsite). I'll be refreshing like crazy leading up to the day of the trip, but I'm tempering my expectations.

Has anyone here had any experiences with refreshing the week leading up to your trip and snagging it?

I remember back in the FP+ days, we would do last minute weekend trips and would refresh a lot at home to grab Avatar or 7DMT before arriving even during the busiest times of the year. But with this new system I'm curious to know if refreshing during the days leading up to the trip still works. We won't alter our entire plans for one ride, so if we can't grab TBA on LLMP, it's totally fine. But it would be nice to be able to ride it!

We might try to grab a VQ, but we are also tempering our expectations because we don't plan to enter the park until after 2pm.

Thanks!

I got my LLMPs on Thursday. I had to leave for work so didn't have time to modify. (TIP: if you snag a hard to get LL, modify it right then). I was not able to get back to it until after lunch, and was unable to modify (I had another LL in the way (can't overlap by much) that I didn't want to move and by the time I decided to move it, Tiana was all gone. I have been trying to modify ever since, because it's a party night, I want to see Jack and Sally, and my LL is from 3:40-4:40, which would be tricky to get the meet and greet then get to Tiana on time.
I was just able to modify! YaY! I've been looking at the drop times on thrill data, and have been trying on the zeros - 8:10, 8:20, 8:30, etc. According to the data, there was a drop at 10, and I got a modification. So happy and excited. So, never give up!
Also, I was able to overlap at HS by 30 minutes. I have 1 LL at 5:10 - 6:10 and another at 5:40 - 6:40. I did this modifying. I moved TSMM out of the way and got the 5:40 for Slinky, then went back in to move TSMM to a better spot and got the 5:10.

 

[Mambo Junkie]

You already lost your Tiana LLMP when it was converted to an MEP. The MEP can be used to ride Tiana (or most of the other LLMP rides in MK) but it is not a Tiana LLMP per se. BTW, I disagree with @Dave006 when he says you can book another LLMP "based on restrictions on the MEP." You can book another LLMP because you currently have only two LLMPs and they are both Tier 2. I think you can therefore book any available LLMP in Tier 1 (or Tier 2 if you prefer). The restrictions in the MEP will limit which rides the MEP can be used for (I believe Peter Pan will be excluded*). I do not think they would prevent you from booking Peter Pan, or Tiana again if available. You are entitled to have one Tier 1 LLMP, and the MEP doesn't count.

* - see post 3990

So that would give me (if I choose another) 3 LLMPs AND an MEPLL, correct?

 

[TahoeMom]

Each day is paid individually but the day's MP & SP can be purchased at the same time. This is why we tell people to have multiple credit cards/debit cards/gift cards at the ready in case one they start throwing fraud alerts.

Thanks so much! I will be sure to have a second credit card available.