Pirates of the Caribbean auction scene to change

[DisneyQueen1320]

I think everyone should boycott the ride, then it can always be a walk on.

 

[ArwenMarie]

The Redhead always turned the scene on its head. They were selling the women off meanwhile she wanted to be taken I think this just takes that same sassiness in the character and changes it up a bit

As far as family-friendly, I never cared about this scene or my kids seeing it, but now that I think about it, I'd rather my kids see this proposed scene over the current one. Especially my DD

 

[mirak]

A serious question to anyone who supports changing this ride: do you also support dismantelling Small World, or do you support what is clearly racism and cultural appropriation by today's PC standards?

 

[Farro]

A serious question to anyone who supports changing this ride: do you also support dismantelling Small World, or do you support what is clearly racism and cultural appropriation by today's PC standards?

I need you to seriously explain how It's Small World (a ride that is celebrating the "culture" of different countries, yet saying we are all still one, small world) is an example of cultural appropriation.

When we use words or phrases incorrectly, it starts to render them useless. Therefore when it's really called for, it becomes easily ignored.

Cultural Appropriation - the act of taking or using things from a culture that is not your own, especially without showing that you understand or respect this culture

 

[Delirium]

Lost in all of the discussion is the fact that the ride will need to be down for an extended period of time, robbing a lot of people who take a once in a lifetime trip the opportunity to see it. I understand the need for refurbishments, but to make this change will require something longer than normal. And, it's unnecessary.

 

[champ1380]

I honestly cannot believe a single person has every been offended by this scene. This is fixing a problem that doesn't exist.

I don't know if offended is the right word, but I know I noticed parts of that scene that left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. It's didn't stop me from enjoying a lot of the ride, or going on it again, but seems like a change that is moving in a more positive direction. But I'm a card carrying PC SJW millennial snowflake, so what do I know

 

[TRS19]

I don't really have strong feelings one way or the other if they keep this scene or change it.

But to those saying "well if this scene offends you, just don't ride it"- well ok.

And if the new version with changes upsets you in some way, then similarly, you don't have to ride it.

Goes both ways.

 

[ShellieMimi]

Thank you. I hear enough crap about snowflakes and participation trophies on political sites. I really don't need to run into it on the Disboards.

When you see that, just ask the poster who GAVE the participation trophies. That usually shuts them up.

 

[TDSAXX]

Based on this, things they could do next (all for kicks and giggles, please join in):
Make changes to Splash. I'm continually surprised Brer Rabbit and company are even. Part of it given the "banning" of the movie

Country Bears---quite a bit of violence with "don't whup Buford" and I wonder if rednecks get offended

Haunted mansion--- infringing on others beliefs of the after life

7 dwarfs mine train---should we be calling them dwarfs?

How about all of the shows and attractions related to Little Mermaid. Prince Eric falls in love with and marries a 16 year old. What a pervert.

 

[ShellieMimi]

 

[Farro]

@ShellieMimi Perfect!!!

 

[mirak]

I need you to seriously explain how It's Small World (a ride that is celebrating the "culture" of different countries, yet saying we are all still one, small world) is an example of cultural appropriation.

When we use words or phrases incorrectly, it starts to render them useless. Therefore when it's really called for, it becomes easily ignored.

Cultural Appropriation - the act of taking or using things from a culture that is not your own, especially without showing that you understand or respect this culture

Just do a quick google search and you'll see plenty of people who are offended by Small World. Who are you to judge that they're wrong?

Here's an idea: how about we stop trying to sanitize history? How about we stand up to the PC bullies and say "this is a historic ride. You may be offended by this today, but it was ok back then. If you want to be offended by history that's your right, but you don't get to erase history."

These are the same nut jobs demanding that confederate monuments be torn down. And Disney is appeasing them. I'm very much an anti-slavery, union kind of guy - but I am also anti-sanitizing history.

 

[Farro]

Just do a quick google search and you'll see plenty of people who are offended by Small World. Who are you to judge that they're wrong?

Here's an idea: how about we stop trying to sanitize history? How about we stand up to the PC bullies and say "this is a historic ride. You may be offended by this today, but it was ok back then. If you want to be offended by history that's you're right, but you don't get to erase history."

These are the same nut jobs demanding that confederate monuments be torn down. And Disney is is appeasing them. I'm very much an anti-slavery, union kind of guy - but I am also anti-sanitizing history.

All that to say...you didn't (or couldn't) answer my question. And that's okay.

 

[mirak]

All that to say...you didn't (or couldn't) answer my question. And that's okay.

I absolutely answered your question. I don't personally find Small World offensive. Neither do you. But a lot of crazy people do deem it racist and cultural appropriation. So we either pick someone to decide what's ok and not ok (how do you propose to do that?) or we just stand up to the nonsense and say history is history and we're not changing to appease the people who are offended. That seems like the better course of action.

 

[ShellieMimi]

Just do a quick google search and you'll see plenty of people who are offended by Small World. Who are you to judge that they're wrong?

Here's an idea: how about we stop trying to sanitize history? How about we stand up to the PC bullies and say "this is a historic ride. You may be offended by this today, but it was ok back then. If you want to be offended by history that's your right, but you don't get to erase history."

These are the same nut jobs demanding that confederate monuments be torn down. And Disney is appeasing them. I'm very much an anti-slavery, union kind of guy - but I am also anti-sanitizing history.

Interesting that those who speak out against a portrayal of sexual slavery or who wish to pull down what were monuments to a self-proclaimed nation that enslaved an entire race of people are "bullies," in your opinion.

IMO, all of those things can go. And they are indeed going!

There is a time and place for everything. Disney World is not the place.

 

[Missyrose]

No, I don't see any problem with "Song of the South" at all and think it's a real shame it's not in distribution.

You have GOT to be kidding.

when is this change going to happen??

July 24 in Paris. WDW and Disneyland get the new scene next year.

 

[Shanti]

You have GOT to be kidding.

What exactly do you think is wrong with the film "Song of the South"? I'm half African-American, grew up and live in the South, have a degree in history, and see this film as something beautiful. As I've mentioned before, Uncle Remus is portrayed as a wise hero, and the white parents are portrayed as rigid and misguided. The film ends in the spirit of biracial togetherness, with a black man lovingly holding a white boy's hand, and later white and black children are shown peaceably playing together. It shows the beauty and great dignity of African-American spiritual music and worship during the scene when the servants hold vigil when the little boy is hurt. There is absolutely no portrayal of any African-American character as malevolent or unintelligent in that film, or any other nasty rascist stereotype. So what exactly do you think is terrible about the film?

 

[DWillowBay]

Honestly!!! Is EVERYONE offended these days?? Isn't there anything funny anymore? Guess not. Maybe Pirates are just misunderstood poor people who are merely re-distribuing on the high seas! Poor guys! I hope contemporary pirates don't sue for mis-representation.

 

[KateP85]

They're taking the scene out because it's sexist?! Because it's derogatory towards women?!

Oh the irony!!!

 

[mirak]

There is a difference between respecting/understanding history and celebrating/flaunting it with statues and monuments that are disrespectful to citizens of the USA.

This is getting off topic, but the civil war was one of the single most important events in our nation's history. The south seceded for several reasons, slavery being just one. Honoring the people who died valiantly on both sides (the VAST majority of whom did not own slaves) is not an endorsement of slavery - it is an acknowledgement of history.