MissSixty said:Sometimes you DO need the extra space in the larger, handicapped stall with small children. Most of the average stalls barely fit one, much less two or three or more. That, to me, is a legitimate need.
MickeyNicki said:Not to defend people on cell phones because it does irritate me too but we were there in October when hurricane Wilma was hitting Naples and Marco Island where we live and my relatives stayed behind. I was on the phone with them constantly to see what was going on but I had the decency to move to a quiet spot and not talk in line, in a restaurant or anyplace I might irritate someone.
What if someone is on vacation and their business needs them or there is a family emergency? I agree there is a time and place for everything but if you are decreet about it you can get away with using your cell phone.
Just wanted to throw that out there......
mhingher said:I don't know why this bothers me-- I'm just very impatient sometimes... but it drives me crazy when I'm standing on a line for a LONG time in the hot weather and the person in front of me doesn't move when the lines moves up...
disneynutt1225 said:How about:
1) People who take their children into the handicapped stalls in the restrooms just because they are bigger. Those stalls are for people who have difficulty standing/walking room to turn around in a wheelchair. It was really frustrating a couple of weeks ago when my mother would have to use the restroom (she's in a wheelchair) and would have to hobble her way into a regular stall without hand rails because "Mom and her 3 kids" were in the handicapped stall all doing there business. ETA: I'm not saying you should ONLY use them if you are in a wheelchair, I'm just saying if you do not have the need for the handrails and extra space, please save them for someone who might be not too far behind you and really needs to use the restroom.
2) Again with the handicapped theme, comments like this one are absolutely absurd and should not be uttered: "Well, if I had known wheelchairs got such a great view, I would have gotten one!" When I heard that comment, I wanted to offer the lady who said it the opportunity to switch places with my mother. I'm sure she'd love to NOT use a wheelchair.
3) Please don't keep your feet up my butt while watching a 33 minute show! Or for that matter, even next to my hips on the bench! (This particular peeve was committed by the same people who uttered the obnoxious comment in peeve #2).
disneynutt1225 said:Perhaps I should edit my #1 peeve to say: Moms and OLDER children. I don't have a problem if you need to change you whole kids' outfit; and I completely understand children under a certain age. I guess it's the ones that just seemed to be using it out of convenience - not wanting to wait in line for the next regular stall to open up. And before anyone jumps on me for that one, you can tell who uses it for convenience vs. who really needs it - the people who see you standing with the wheelchair outside of a regular stall and give you the "oops" or "I'm sorry"/guilty look as they walk by.
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The stall is not reserved for the sole use of handicapped individuals - it is designed for their convenience and open for anybody to use if they choose.
MQuara said:disneynutt1225 said:Perhaps I should edit my #1 peeve to say: Moms and OLDER children. I don't have a problem if you need to change you whole kids' outfit; and I completely understand children under a certain age. I guess it's the ones that just seemed to be using it out of convenience - not wanting to wait in line for the next regular stall to open up. And before anyone jumps on me for that one, you can tell who uses it for convenience vs. who really needs it - the people who see you standing with the wheelchair outside of a regular stall and give you the "oops" or "I'm sorry"/guilty look as they walk by.
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The stall is not reserved for the sole use of handicapped individuals - it is designed for their convenience and open for anybody to use if they choose.
actually what ARE the "laws" of using a handicapped bathroom stall? ARE they really for anyone to use?? i mean if that is the only stall open- i use it and pray when i walk out- that someone who is HC is not there waiting for it! but i had to go!!
are they like HC parking spots (no pun intended) that is a big NO NO i would NEVER park in a HC spot. is it really the same.
uh- oh i think i may have started a OT on this thread, but i am really just wondering because i DO use those stalls.
maddhatir said:MQuara said:actually what ARE the "laws" of using a handicapped bathroom stall? ARE they really for anyone to use?? i mean if that is the only stall open- i use it and pray when i walk out- that someone who is HC is not there waiting for it! but i had to go!!
are they like HC parking spots (no pun intended) that is a big NO NO i would NEVER park in a HC spot. is it really the same.
uh- oh i think i may have started a OT on this thread, but i am really just wondering because i DO use those stalls.
There are no laws regarding the use of handicapped batroom stalls. They are open to anybody that wants to use it - regardless of why they need to use it.
Parking spots as we all know are a totally different thing as there are laws concerning HC parking spots and these should NEVER be used by anybody unless they have the appropriate tags or license plate.
kimmikayb said:#2 & #3 agree![]()
#1, sometimes there isn't a choice when you have 2 kids with you. 4 & 2 is too young to put in a stall by themselves and often the baby is sleeping and I or hubby need to push the stroller into the stall with us. Plus, keep in mind that sometimes (maybe it's not WDW?) the changing table is installed in the handicapped stall. I am observant and will make sure there is not a line for that stall. I apologize if someone is waiting when we are done. Until there is a stall for "families", we will have to use the handicapped stall.
disneynutt1225 said:Perhaps I should edit my #1 peeve to say: Moms and OLDER children. I don't have a problem if you need to change you whole kids' outfit; and I completely understand children under a certain age. I guess it's the ones that just seemed to be using it out of convenience - not wanting to wait in line for the next regular stall to open up. And before anyone jumps on me for that one, you can tell who uses it for convenience vs. who really needs it - the people who see you standing with the wheelchair outside of a regular stall and give you the "oops" or "I'm sorry"/guilty look as they walk by.
I'm sure I was guilty of doing that in the past, I'm just more sensitive to it now that my mother and future father-in-law are both in wheelchairs.
Aryanna&BiancasMommy said:At what age do you consider the child to be old enough to go into a stall by themselves?
-For example- my oldest is 5... I would not allow her to go into a stall by herself unless I was outside the bathroom waiting (and if I have to go to the bathroom, I'm not going to have her wait outside for me....)- however, that being said, my 5 year old is also quite big for her age... Most people assume she is really 7-8... so in that case, would you automatically assume that if you thought she was an older child that I was "abusing" the handicapped bathroom?
And still yet, even if the person has an older child (8-up), how do you know that the child does not have some kind of delay that you would not notice just by looking at the child? Maybe they are not matured enough to be trusted. Or maybe mom is just quite protective of her child. So, do you just assume that because one looks old enough to be in a stall by themselves that the family is just using it as convenience?
I guess my point is that you could be judging situations that very well do warrant the use of the handicapped stall.
Tinkerbell10403 said:Ok..so here is what peeved me today at MK:
On Haunted Mansion...and we had just finished the whole 'stretching room' segement, and the doors were opened...and everyone files out. Well as you all know..there are no direct partitions that lead to the moving walkway to board the buggys. Everyone's parties must merge together to form one line. (Same as in Test Track, etc.) Anyways...I had 5 in my party. We are in one line, and attempted to merge w/ a another party of about 3 that has stopped momentarily for some unkown reason. Well, it happens that half my party was in front of theirs in the line, and the rest of us ( 2 people) just excuse ourselves around them politely to catch up. The woman in the party begins to shout to her children that we were 'pushing past' them. At first it did not bother me, I just continuted walking. But then we got up behind me, right behind my ear, and semi-loudly says the words 'pushing past' again, on purpose...to where I felt her breath on my neck. (Not pleasant at all!) I just turned around and looked at her, and did not say a word. Maybe she could not draw the conclusion that the five of us were together, and obviously ahead of her party. If she would have told me she thought we were 'cutting', I would have nicely pointed out our party was ahead in the line. I did not, however, need her to get uptight and speak loudly right next to my ear to make her point. It really bugged me, and so I am posting it here.![]()
maddhatir said:DH and i always sit back and try to be the last ones in so we are not stampeded by the crowds which leads me to another mentioned pet peeve...
moving all the way down the aisle. when we are the last ones in-- we can choose our seats without feeling like we HAVE TO move down becasue we are the last ones.