Pet friendly????

[goin2disneyagain]

Oh please No!! I hope that Disney keeps their resorts pet free. I would never stay in any resort that allows pets. I know that some loops at Fort Wilderness allow pets. My brother uses the kennels for his dog (he owns off-site), there are some off-site pet friendly resorts, so there are places that people can go with their pets. I would know in an instance if a dog or cat had stayed in a room and I would not want it. It would be very hard, not to mention very expensive (and that would just be added to our vacation expenses) to get a room TOTALLY cleaned after a pet was in it. I don't want that added expense.

Actually if WDW handled it the way other resorts do that allow pets it wouldn't be a problem. FYI, the Universal resorts ALL allow pets. A certain section of the resort is designated for the families with pets so you wouldn't necessarily get a room that previously had a pet in it. Also a lot of resorts require a cleaning fee for you to stay in the room so again that wouldn't be passed on to you since the people that bring pets are the only ones that are charged the fee.

Also, Schmeck, I don't consider pets to be "creatures", people with pets consider them part of their families.

I agree with enchantingodin, that is a WONDERFUL idea.

 

[goin2disneyagain]

Something I don't understand from reading this thread, several posters on here keep expressing concern that if the resorts allowed pets that people would try to sneak them into the parks. Well WDW has kennels that allow pets to stay there, if people were going to try to sneak them into the parks they would already be trying to do that. It's not like pets are not allowed anywhere on WDW property. Also, other hotels and resorts in Orlando already allow pets so again people would already be trying to sneak their pets into the park if that was really an issue. WDW allowing pets at the resorts is not going to change that.

 

[3boymthr]

Really, Why is it these days that people feel compelled to take their pets EVERYWHERE with them???

We are not allergic. We are not anti-pet/animal; we have a cat and I grew up on a farm with all kinds of animals.

But really, it drives me nuts that people feel its okay to take their animals to all kinds of places these days with out ever thinking about the other people who will also be at those places.

My reason for this; my kids are TERRIFIED of dogs. My littlest one was jumped on, knocked over and barked at by a German Shepard as a toddler and now screams if a dog (no matter how big or little) even comes near him, he has passed his fear on to his brother. Just seeing a dog results in cowering and upsets and depending upon the demeanor of the dog near hysterics.

This makes for some fun, NOT, adventures to the ball field, park, playground, school, summer camp, etc.

Having a pet does not mean you are entitled to impose your love of your pet on everyone else. Not everyone loves or wants to meet your pet.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LEAVE YOUR PET AT HOME.

 

[Bagheera23608]

I've said if before, I'll say it again. It absolutely blows my mind that there are NO pet friendly resorts on the Disney property. This is my one and only, but VERY big complaint about the property. I don't have kids and don't want them, but the very biggest stressor about this trip was what to do with our 9 year old Lab. We have always said, if he's not welcome, we're not welcome. It's not easy and we've had to sacrifice sometimes, but where we go, he goes.

There is just no good reason WDW shouldn't have a real pet friendly resort, especially as animal oriented they are, lol. Theme it after Lady and the Tramp, the Aristocats, Oliver and Company, Fox and the Hound, etc. Pets can stay in the room at nite with their owners and in a state of the art kennel attached to the hotel while the humans are in the parks. There are plenty of business models to go by using big play areas, web cams, etc. WDW is so into customer service, they could really set the gold standard for this. Being marketed toward the pets are family crowd, people would know that this is the resort where pets stay and could choose not to if they wanted. This group also includes the young adults with no children crowd who usually have plenty of money and are willing to spend it to make their pets happy. This makes the owners happy.

BTW - my parents are very excited to watch our pup (the grandpup!) for the week we are gone, but it still involves one of us driving up to eight hours out of our way to drop him off and then pick him up. Disney is squandering a HUGE opportunity here. WAKE UP WDW!!

 

[Bagheera23608]

Really, Why is it these days that people feel compelled to take their pets EVERYWHERE with them???

The US is very behind the times in this regard. Other countries have no problems with pets going out to eat, to the store and staying at hotels. I say it's time for this to change.

My reason for this; my kids are TERRIFIED of dogs. My littlest one was jumped on, knocked over and barked at by a German Shepard as a toddler and now screams if a dog (no matter how big or little) even comes near him, he has passed his fear on to his brother. Just seeing a dog results in cowering and upsets and depending upon the demeanor of the dog near hysterics.

Please, please, PLEASE, I hope you are working on this with your boy. It's a shame that happened to him and unfortunate, but the world involves dogs and he'll be so much happier once he gets past this. Especially at all the places you mentioned. You wish there were less places to take pets and I think there should be many, many more. At least those that are outdoors!

I hope you read my post before reacting. I am proposing one resort where pets are made very welcome. That way it can be avoided by those who don't want to be around animals.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LEAVE YOUR PET AT HOME.

I feel this way many many times about adults and children. Rarely do I wish someone had just left their pet at home! It goes both ways, unfortunately, and we all have to learn to accept each other.

 

[goin2disneyagain]

I've said if before, I'll say it again. It absolutely blows my mind that there are NO pet friendly resorts on the Disney property. This is my one and only, but VERY big complaint about the property. I don't have kids and don't want them, but the very biggest stressor about this trip was what to do with our 9 year old Lab. We have always said, if he's not welcome, we're not welcome. It's not easy and we've had to sacrifice sometimes, but where we go, he goes.

There is just no good reason WDW shouldn't have a real pet friendly resort, especially as animal oriented they are, lol. Theme it after Lady and the Tramp, the Aristocats, Oliver and Company, Fox and the Hound, etc. Pets can stay in the room at nite with their owners and in a state of the art kennel attached to the hotel while the humans are in the parks. There are plenty of business models to go by using big play areas, web cams, etc. WDW is so into customer service, they could really set the gold standard for this. Being marketed toward the pets are family crowd, people would know that this is the resort where pets stay and could choose not to if they wanted. This group also includes the young adults with no children crowd who usually have plenty of money and are willing to spend it to make their pets happy. This makes the owners happy.

BTW - my parents are very excited to watch our pup (the grandpup!) for the week we are gone, but it still involves one of us driving up to eight hours out of our way to drop him off and then pick him up. Disney is squandering a HUGE opportunity here. WAKE UP WDW!!

I totally agree with both of your posts. Disney is way behind the times on this. Other posters say we can stay elsewhere with our pets, well they can stay elsewhere too. It would be in WDW's best interest to allow pets. If they don't start offering it they are going to start losing out on a lot of business. I have already made a complaint to WDW about this and I am going to keep complaining about it and others needs to do the same. Universal's resorts are just as nice if not nicer than most WDW resorts and they allow pets in some rooms. They handle it very well. WDW needs to do the same.

 

[TwistofCate]

It's mostly a security thing I'm sure. They don't want to be held responsible is Fluffy gets loose and goes missing. Besides, I personally wouldn't want my pets to go through the stress of flights and the rush of travel.

 

[kaytieeldr]

There is just no good reason WDW shouldn't have a real pet friendly resort,

Sure there is - which one? What level? Value? Moderate? Deluxe?

 

[Disneyadore]

Sure there is - which one? What level? Value? Moderate? Deluxe?

Please don't open that can of worms.

I can remember the very heated and ugly topics why WDW would not build a resort for adults only.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Back at ya! My computer froze while I was trying to edit.

Now, seriously - Disney couldn't have just one pet-friendly resort. Deluxe resort Guests, and even Moderate resort Guests, would complain about the lack of amenities if the specified resort was a Value (e.g. the earlier suggestion regarding Pop's Legendary Years). Moderate and Value Guests would complain about the cost or the fairness if the designated resort was a Deluxe.

You can't even build a single resort with varying scales of amenities depending on the room rate. Treating lower-paying Guests like second- or third-class citizens - would be unreasonable. Value resorts don't have sit-down restaurants, so you'd need to keep those Guests out of such facilities. Those and Moderates don't have room service, so only the Deluxe-paying Guests would be allowed that amenity. You'd have to have separate buildings and separate pools (can't allow those Value Guests to use a pool slide - that'd give them a feature/amenity not available to Guests at the actual Value resorts, y'know).

I'm aware of one other "complex" in the Disney area - the Marriott properties at Little Lake Bryan. This is the only location of which I'm aware that there are multiple hotels owned by a single company on a single site. No pets allowed at any of them http://www.marriott.com/search/comp...mit=Compare+Now+<SPAN>(up+to+4+hotels)</SPAN>


As to the issue of Guests not currently sneaking pets into the parks, so why would they start if Disney had a pet-friendly property? Well, right now, Guests with pets have to leave them in the kennels; keep the pet in the room overnight and, well, there's NO oversight. Nobody'd be around to make sure the pet was placed in the kennel before the Guest headed to a park.

 

[TinkerBelle_325]

The trend -- especially at upper end hotels -- is pet friendly. WDW is absolutely behind the times.

Stay at the Universal Hotels -- they are nicer and better priced than Disney hotels -- and Fido is welcome.

The pet friendly hotel threads always bring out a bunch of posters with allergies and whatnot. But, the Loews hotels seem to do fine with their pet friendly policy. The W Hotels here in NYC permit pets (they even have doggy dishes with food and water at the hotel entrances).

We stayed recently at The Broadmoor, one of the truly spectacular resorts in the nation. They are pet friendly and it was great.

Many Marriott Residence Inns are pet friendly.

We often stay at the Doubletree at Dana Point in Southern California. We take our yorkie and it's great.

As, I said, WDW is most definitely behind the times!

The difference is that those are pet friendly HOTELS...where people stay shorter lengths of time and have access to the city, parks etc where pets are readily permitted. Disney is a privately owned resort. People stay for longer periods of time and they property does not allow pets outside the kennels. Whether or not people feel this is "fair" it is Disney's RIGHT.

Even Universal is a much smaller destination than WDW. I've rarely heard of anyone doing Universal for a week.

I have absolutely NOTHING against pets. I love them and I want one of my own once I move out. However, I would never consider bringing my pet to WDW as it isn't fair to the pet IMO.

I've said if before, I'll say it again. It absolutely blows my mind that there are NO pet friendly resorts on the Disney property. This is my one and only, but VERY big complaint about the property. I don't have kids and don't want them, but the very biggest stressor about this trip was what to do with our 9 year old Lab. We have always said, if he's not welcome, we're not welcome. It's not easy and we've had to sacrifice sometimes, but where we go, he goes.

There is just no good reason WDW shouldn't have a real pet friendly resort, especially as animal oriented they are, lol. Theme it after Lady and the Tramp, the Aristocats, Oliver and Company, Fox and the Hound, etc. Pets can stay in the room at nite with their owners and in a state of the art kennel attached to the hotel while the humans are in the parks. There are plenty of business models to go by using big play areas, web cams, etc. WDW is so into customer service, they could really set the gold standard for this. Being marketed toward the pets are family crowd, people would know that this is the resort where pets stay and could choose not to if they wanted. This group also includes the young adults with no children crowd who usually have plenty of money and are willing to spend it to make their pets happy. This makes the owners happy.

BTW - my parents are very excited to watch our pup (the grandpup!) for the week we are gone, but it still involves one of us driving up to eight hours out of our way to drop him off and then pick him up. Disney is squandering a HUGE opportunity here. WAKE UP WDW!!

I can completely understand why Disney doesn't allow pets in their resorts.

1. The are a privately owned resort. It is their right to refuse ANY kind of patronage. They can remove disruptive guests, they can refuse admission to guests, they can refuse pets etc..

2. They must account for the comfort of the status quo, a vast majority of guests would never consider travelling with a pet, even devoted pet owners. When you have a destination like Disney where they see MILLIONS of people stay in their hotels every year they must account for the average not the exception. Where does it stop? Dog Owners? Cat Owners? Bird Owners? Reptile Owners? Rabbit Owners? Where do you draw the line when you open pandora's box?

3. They need to consider logistics for maintaining their properties. Most of the pet-friendly hotels in major cities or in Europe aren't going to have the pets left in the room all day. As you said, in many European cities it is perfectly normal to see dogs in shops, at restaurants etc. So they may stay in the room in the evening with their owner, but they are out for the day. This allows housekeeping to keep the rooms neat and clean and well maintained.

However, Disney does not allow pets at their restaurants, stores or parks. So that pet it inevitably pent up in a room all day. As many posters have mentioned dogs get excited, nervous or pine for their owners in unfamiliar locations. This could result in a greater number of accidents (soiling the room) or destructive behavior that is common in larger dogs such as Labs when left to their own devices for long periods of time.

4. I truly think Disney feels that the kennels are the most humane solution. The pets are given the proper level of attention there. They are walked, allowed to play, can socialize with other dogs and their owners can visit them each night.

I will probably be flamed for my last comment, and I will point out in advance that I have had NUMEROUS pets that I have adored. I have mourned their loss, felt their emotion, seen the unconditional love...but I really and truly do not understand the "fur-baby" or "fur-children" trend. I never will.

I will join those that do not understand pet owners that want pet-friendly resorts. I really don't think they are "pet-friendly" at all. I think it is for the comfort of the owner, not the comfort of the pet.

 

[StreamMaster]

Pet frendly hotels across the Nation loewshotels .com

 

[MartinaC]

I have 4 small dogs and I hate to leave them at home when I travel. Thankfully, I can take them most anywhere we go on vacation except disney vacations and cruises.
With such great imagineers at disney and so much land, I wonder why disney doesn't create a dog park?
People like me who consider there dogs children (just ask my 2 teen human sons) would pay extra to take them and pay for park tickets for them to go to a dog park.
Yes, my fur children are very spoiled.

 

[goin2disneyagain]

I have 4 small dogs and I hate to leave them at home when I travel. Thankfully, I can take them most anywhere we go on vacation except disney vacations and cruises.
With such great imagineers at disney and so much land, I wonder why disney doesn't create a dog park?
People like me who consider there dogs children (just ask my 2 teen human sons) would pay extra to take them and pay for park tickets for them to go to a dog park.
Yes, my fur children are very spoiled.

True dog lovers do consider their pets their children. I also take my dogs with me everywhere I go with the exception od WDW. However, next time I am seriously considering taking them and staying at a Universal Resort. I looked into it for my last trip. Only because I was going to both Universal and WDW and wouldn't easily be able to come back periodically to check on them did I not take them. WDW is truly hurting themselves by not allowing pets. For those people that say it stresses the pets out to leave them in hotel rooms well it also stresses them out to leave them at kennels or other people's homes. Personally I would like my dogs to stay with me at night but when I am at the parks all day I would prefer for them to spend the day at the kennels and then take them back to the room with me at night.

 

[3boymthr]

Please notice I said "PET" not dog.

I get that your dogs are your babies, but their not mine and I don't want them to be my babies.

If WDW were to start a pet friendly hotel would they be able to limit the pets to dogs and cats??

Seriously, I doubt it.

Read the posts. People hate mice, rats, spiders, snakes, frogs, alligators, birds, etc.

I've known people with snakes (a boa and a poisonous one I forget which), spiders (a couple tarantulas), a pot belly pig, rabbits, ferrets, frogs, rats and mice, oh and my husband's stepbrother's stepson has some kind of lizard - a big one about 5 ft long, eewww!. They don't like to leave their babies at home either.

Guess what, all these lovely critters would be visiting WDW's pet friendly hotel.

How would you feel if someone's pet snake got loose and killed a child (see recent news reports) or their tarantula got in your bed or their mouse ate a hole in your suitcase?

 

[kaytieeldr]

WDW is truly hurting themselves by not allowing pets. For those people that say it stresses the pets out to leave them in hotel rooms well it also stresses them out to leave them at kennels or other people's homes.

First, Disney is not 'hurting themselves' by not allowing pets in the rooms. Look at other threads on this board, and some on the TPA&S board. There are several recent posts with concerns that there are no rooms available for the respective posters' dates/choice.
Pets in kennels or pets in other peoples' homes have those people/staffers around. They're not left alone in a room for unreasonable hours on end.

 

[TinkerBelle_325]

True dog lovers do consider their pets their children.

First, I think that is a bit of an overstatement as you cannot possibly speak for all dog lovers. And what exactly is the definition of a "true dog lover"?

WDW is truly hurting themselves by not allowing pets. For those people that say it stresses the pets out to leave them in hotel rooms well it also stresses them out to leave them at kennels or other people's homes.

No, WDW is not hurting themselves by not allowing pets. They DO allow pets, in their kennel facilities. That is far more generous than many other theme parks/amusement parks around the world. The percentage of guests that travel with pets is small when you consider the number of guests that visit WDW every year. Taking that into account it is only logical to say that the percentage of pet owners that would want their pet to stay in their resort is even smaller. If WDW felt there was a REAL demand for a pet friendly resort they would have one by now.

Additionally, another poster commented that PET is the key word. Where do you draw the line? Many people keep "pets" that are dangerous or poisonous creatures, many guests have potentially life threatening allergies to pets, do you endanger a large number of guests to satisfy a small number?

 

[goin2disneyagain]

First, Disney is not 'hurting themselves' by not allowing pets in the rooms. Look at other threads on this board, and some on the TPA&S board. There are several recent posts with concerns that there are no rooms available for the respective posters' dates/choice.
Pets in kennels or pets in other peoples' homes have those people/staffers around. They're not left alone in a room for unreasonable hours on end.

I have re-read this post a couple of times but it doesn't make any sense to me at all. To elaborate on my point which is what you quoted....Pets are less stressed being around their owners at night than in a kennel or someone else'e home. I don't understand what you are trying to say about "those people/staffers" as it really didn't make sense in reference to my post.

Also, I just returned from WDW less than 2 weeks ago and it was quite obvious that it was not nearly as crowded as it has been in years past. We are in a Recession so that wasn't surprising. If WDW was all that busy then why don't they finish the other side of Pop Century which has been sitting half built for years now.

 

[goin2disneyagain]

First, I think that is a bit of an overstatement as you cannot possibly speak for all dog lovers. And what exactly is the definition of a "true dog lover"?



No, WDW is not hurting themselves by not allowing pets. They DO allow pets, in their kennel facilities. That is far more generous than many other theme parks/amusement parks around the world. The percentage of guests that travel with pets is small when you consider the number of guests that visit WDW every year. Taking that into account it is only logical to say that the percentage of pet owners that would want their pet to stay in their resort is even smaller. If WDW felt there was a REAL demand for a pet friendly resort they would have one by now.

Additionally, another poster commented that PET is the key word. Where do you draw the line? Many people keep "pets" that are dangerous or poisonous creatures, many guests have potentially life threatening allergies to pets, do you endanger a large number of guests to satisfy a small number?

First of all this thread is about allowing pets in the resorts, not at the kennels. That has been well established through-out the thread. In fact, I specifically stated that in one of my posts early on so you might want to go back and read it.

Also, look all over the internet and you will see that dog lovers consider their dogs members of their families. Do you know what the number one selling category is on the internet?? It's pet products. That's a fact. You can research it if you choose. I said category because it's everything for pets, mainly for dogs. It's a billion dollar industry so obviously pet lovers are not in the minority which is why WDW is missing the boat on this. And yes, they are making a HUGE mistake by not allowing it. They wouldn't be satisfying a small number of people at all.

It's easy to draw the line, this isn't a new concept. Universal and others have been doing it quite well for quite a while. It's really not that hard. I made a reservation with them and they wanted to know my dogs' name to put on the reservation. There are still guidelines that have to be followed.

By the way, people with pets make happier people and live longer.

 

[kaytieeldr]

"Those people/staffers" = the residents of the home in which the pet stays while its owners travel; and staffers = the employees at the kennel where the pet stays while the owners travel.

You'll have to ask Disney why they don't finish Legendary Years. As for Walt Disney World not being as crowded as in past years, well, not all Disney visitors stay onsite. The parks being less crowded does not indicate - to Disney, apparently - that there is a need for pet-friendly resorts.

Again, the only two comparable sites in the area seem to be Universal's three Loews-owned hotels, which do allow pets as is the chain's (not the theme park's) policy; and the Marriott complex at Little Lake Bryan, where none of the properties accepts pets. Marriott owns all these hotels and chooses not to accept pets in any of them; Disney owns all the, well, Disney-owned resorts and chooses not to accept pets in any of them. If that sends some few potential onsite Guests offsite instead, well, that appears to be a choice Disney has made and the results of which it is aware.