Percentage of guests who stay on site?

[cdurham1]

I don't see it confirmed on a Disney site, but it sounds like there will be an advantage for on site guests being able to choose attractions at 7am while everyone else has to wait until they are at the park.

Using the 60 day versus 30 day fastpasses to gauge the importance, I am going to guess this will be a huge deal. Think about the hard to get fastpasses even at day 60, that were essentially impossible to get at day 30. Then, there were plenty of on site guests who didn't even take advantage of the 60 day booking window because they booked a last minute trip.

So the question is do you think the utilization rate will be higher, even with an attached extra charge per attraction?

It sounds like you will have just a few of these tier 1 attractions to pick. Will it, essentially, be impossible to get a tier 1 pick at park open? Will they be picked over completely by the 7am storm?

Will our rope drop strategies completely change? It seems like looking at DLR and the max pass system might help us figure out the best way to approach this new system.

 

[gharter]

I don't see this pushing people to stay on site at all. In the past, you could book 3 FPs early. Now, by paying more, I can book 1 pass 2 hours before those staying offsite. After that, there is no benefit to having paid more. If anything, I think this will push people off site as there are few benefits to being onsite now. Saving money staying off site, they can now use that money to buy lightning passes instead.

 

[choirbird]

Saving money staying off site, they can now use that money to buy lightning passes instead.

My thoughts exactly. I’ll definitely be doing the calculations next time on rental car + parking vs. Lyft vs. WDW transit, and have already been a Value Resort person so I can spend money on backstage tours & good food…this is similar.

I could see this pushing more folks to try VIP tours (splitting w another family).

 

[luv2cheer92]

To answer the title question, the estimates I've seen over the years are roughly 30-40% of daily guests at WDW are staying on property and 60-70% are offsite.

 

[HopperFan]

To answer the title question, the estimates I've seen over the years are roughly 30-40% of daily guests at WDW are staying on property and 60-70% are offsite.

Disney is HIGHLY dependent on offsite guests because they don't have enough on property to keep the parks full of people - who are spending money. Relaxing at your pool doesn't make them money.

Just playing with numbers 30,000+ rooms x 4 guests avg (might be high) = @ 120,000. Parks capacity are around estimated at well over 300,000. So your numbers are spot on.

With offsite guests they are also competing with Universal, Sea World etc so it shouldn't be a surprise if they bring in services/products that seem to engage the offsite guest more and more.

Disney has also stopped building hotels, letting other companies build to provide guests. Going forward I expect only DVC being built or converted from hotels.

 

[StarrySkye21]

As an ex-Florida resident, I have been to WDW many many times and have always stayed off-site. My daughter and I will be coming again this November and are staying on property (All Star) for the first and likely only time ever. The ME was a big deciding factor but after that goes away, I just don’t see enough anemities to make it worth the inflated price. The only headache staying off site is transportation from the airport anyway. You can snag a beautiful hotel for much less than Disney hotels and still get free transportation to the parks.

Long story short, I’d imagine that the percent of guests staying on-site will only decrease unless they find ways to lure them back.