People taking pictures on Spaceship Earth despite being told to stop

[pgowder]

I average 3-4 thousand. Don't worry, I hate flash. LOL

Wow, I shoot a lot, but 4,000 is impressive!

When we are shooting for our Where in WDW iPhone game we do about 2,000/day. But that is not a normal trip.

 

[buckeev]

No flash=no problems...but I don't think 75% of people know how to disable the flash on their camera. ....

I'd say more like 90%.

 

[TLSnell1981]

I'm not referring to the occasional "oops, I forgot to turn off my flash" photos. It's the "entitled jerks". I think, it would be easy to separate the two...

 

[Kona65]

Just put in a nice ejector seat and blow those annoying people out of the ride.

So now you want to bring back the "E" Ticket rides? What next, Dream Finder.

 

[WDSearcher]

I agree with the pp, a rule is a rule. Why aren't this kid's parents making him follow the rules? I wouldn't have a problem with this either. Since when do our children not have to follow rules? Bad parenting...

OK. If a rule is a rule, then I say go back to FP returns during the time printed on the FP ONLY. If Disney wants to allow you to use it any time you want, then they should say so on the FP.

As for the kid with his first camera .... You're apparently a perfect parent -- most aren't. I guess you've never seen a child so excited about something that he acted impulsively and did something before his parents even realized it. (It happens a lot at Disney.)

 

[Sandy321]

I'm not referring to the occasional "oops, I forgot to turn off my flash" photos. It's the "entitled jerks". I think, it would be easy to separate the two...

I cant believe no one mentioned the "language" no comprende problemo - -

ITA that disney will not enforce the rules, there are more linke cheaters than ever before - some "pretend" they are catching up with family - ridiculous, but CM's turn a blind eye -

Now for the "flashers" I'd just love to turn it on them - you know like photo bomb their insensitive pic - but its just not worth it -

 

[TDC Nala]

I knew it would come up that there are those who think that you're entitled to "make memories" even if it disrupts the enjoyment of everyone around you. Couldn't they remember the ride without taking flash photos of it?

 

[disneysteve]

I knew it would come up that there are those who think that you're entitled to "make memories" even if it disrupts the enjoyment of everyone around you. Couldn't they remember the ride without taking flash photos of it?

I think Disney should sell CDs of high quality images of all of the rides. I think they used to have something like that. I think most of the time when guests are taking photos on the dark rides, they are shooting the ride itself, not the people in their party, so buying a reasonably priced CD would suit their purpose and get them better quality photos than most of them are going to get anyway. Have the CDs prominently displayed before and after the ride for people to purchase.

 

[TDC Nala]

Heck, you can see the rides on YouTube thanks to everyone holding up their bright video screens in there. No need to buy DVDs or anything. Not that I have a problem with that if you are shielding the screen.

 

[pgowder]

I think Disney should sell CDs of high quality images of all of the rides. I think they used to have something like that. I think most of the time when guests are taking photos on the dark rides, they are shooting the ride itself, not the people in their party, so buying a reasonably priced CD would suit their purpose and get them better quality photos than most of them are going to get anyway. Have the CDs prominently displayed before and after the ride for people to purchase.

They do! http://www.disneyphotopass.com/photoproducts.aspx

Over 300 photos.

I've also heard there's an iPhone app for that. Maybe a link in my signature!

 

[Kaewin]

This thread took a while to get through and most people have good thoughts. Just a couple of my own. When I went to Disney last year I took just a little over 1900 pics (I can get 8000 on my memory card and plan to fill it up this year) I did take 2 flash shots in non flash areas. I was caught both times. One was in an unloading zone ( I saw a pic from a poster called Uncle Gregg and loved his shot) and the second was an accident when I go into the Finding Nemo ride.


When I am on a dark ride I am the guy who takes three or four shots at a time just so I know at least one comes out is good but I don't flash.

Some of what was said here was a but harsh. Throwing out people for flashing on a ride is ridiculous. Fast passes are let go, people hold spots for others and ADR's are wild but if you want to follow all of those other rules let's bounce the people on the rides yelling and swearing. Also don't drop anything on the ground even a piece of popcorn there are trash containers for that.

Pitch them all and make everyone happy. See a mother breastfeeding or changing a baby in public? Well get rid or her two. Let them park a cart or baby carriage in the wrong way and send them off too.

Yes I know how this sounds but it is not going to be perfect all the time for everyone. We must make do with what we have. There is going to be the guy who takes flash photos or the guy who cuts line or even farts next to you. That's the way it is. Get pass that, it is supposed to be Magic for you and just enjoy that. If you let it bother you then you have lost and they have won. Don't let them win.

Ok, flame away.

 

[elwise1966]

Just remember, "You can't buy class or manners"

Or brains for that matter

 

[disneysteve]

They do! http://www.disneyphotopass.com/photoproducts.aspx

Over 300 photos.

I thought they might. That is a product that should be marketed far more heavily with an emphasis on how hard it is to get good pictures on the dark rides from a moving vehicle. And they also need to slash the price. $40 is a lot. Half that might be reasonable. It costs folks nothing to shoot digital pics today. It isn't like when we were spending money on film and processing.

 

[PrincessKida]

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[grimley1968]

AI do think some people just do it accidentally and IMO they are just trying to capture the magic. I can't see myself ever saying anything to anyone on a ride. I've been on them countless times before-let someone who is trying to capture their own magic have a little fun. Should they follow the rules? obviously and if they are warned do they need to turn it off? of course. but if a dad slips up in POTC trying to take a picture of Jack Sparrow for his kids is it really neccassary to call for the guy to be evicted? let's be reasonable.

Unless you're referring to a straw man poster, no one I've read in here is calling for someone who accidentally takes one flash photo, then turns the flash off, to be evicted. It is only for those who willfully disobey the rules and repeated warnings.

If you can find someone in this thread who calls for eviction after a one-time flash, please quote it. Otherwise, I don't think it's "unreasonable" to want to preserve the enjoyment of dark rides for those who follow the rules. I have no problem allowing for the one-time inadvertent flash. Everyone makes mistakes. But the repeated, willful flashing (ignoring repeated warnings) on dark rides is just plain wrong.

 

[TDC Nala]

If you are told to stop taking pictures by a cast member and then you keep taking pictures, like the OP mentioned, that is outside the realm of "oh jeez I forgot to turn my flash off." And it's always thrown in that maybe the continually offending photographers should be excused because they're just trying to make memories or get pictures for their kids.

Aren't the kids with them looking at Jack Sparrow? Why do they need the flash photo?

 

[HockeyMomNH]

I have a hard time with my eyes adjusting to changes in lighting. Every time a flash goes off it really affects my ability to even see in a dark ride.

That said, I think the problem is not so much with enforcement of the rules, but just in stating the rules in the first place. I think that the CM's need to tell every rider that no flash photography is the rule. I know that would be a pain, but i just don't think that people, in general, are paying enough attention to realize that on their own.

 

[DisneyDreamersAreWe]

As long as it doesn't bright up the area I don't see why it's such a big deal. Let people make memories how they want to, and you should worry about you.

The issue is not whether it "brightens up" the area, the issue is whether or not photography is explicitly stated that it is not allowed! If they say that photography is not allowed, then end of story. These people are not only being selfish and inconsiderate, but also breaking the rules. If they were subsequently told about it and then continued to do it, then they should be removed from the park. It's really rather simple. I'm sure they can find other ways to "make their memories", just like the rest of us do!

 

[DisneyDreamersAreWe]

Really? Expell someone from the park for taking flash photos? Isn't that a bit of an over-reaction? You'd really advocate kicking dad out of the park for taking a flash photo of his kids on POC?

The vast majority of people who use flash on rides are, I think, simply wanting to take photos of things that delight or amaze them. Sometimes it doesn't even click with them that there's a flash until they take the photo. Sometimes it doesn't click with them that anyone else but their family is there because the other riders are hidden or in other cars. I don't think it's all conscious "me first" thinking. Some of it is just excitement and fun and thinking "OMG -- how cool is that?" And I'll bet its been happening as long as flash cameras have existed.

Enforcement is an issue too. I suppose you could interrupt the ride once or twice with voice-over warnings and then, if the flashes persist, stop the ride completely and pull the offending person off so that the rest of the riders can enjoy the remainder of the ride without flashes, but that would ruin it for everyone else too.

Also ... just because someone takes a lot of pictures on one ride doesn't mean that they are "adversely affecting the park experience for hundreds of people throughout their day". It may be only one ride, because it's a favorite or a favorite of someone who isn't there. Or ... could be that only one person complained while the rest of the ride didn't notice or didn't care.

It's easy to say "pull someone off and kick them out", but really difficult in enforce.

Again, rules apply to everyone, not just to those who "choose" to obey them! Whether or not somebody taking flash photography is "adversely affecting the park experience for hundreds of people" is irrelevant.... If it adversely affects even just ONE person, that's too much and the person(s) should be addressed in some fashion. That one person paid just as much (figuratively) for his admission ticket as everybody else, and is entitled to enjoy the park/rides equally. And again, your argument that it's okay to do because it may be someone's "favorite ride..." is also not valid because it may also be somebody else's "favorite ride" which is now being spoiled for them.

I don't mean to be nasty or combative about this (honestly), but it really annoys me when people think they are "above the law" or think they can pick and choose what rules they will obey, irregardless of other people's rights and sensitivities.

Disney could easily enforce the policy if they would choose to do so. And I suspect that if it became a big enough issue (e.g. Starts to adversely affect their pocket book), they will do so.


Just me 2 cents' worth.

 

[DisneyDreamersAreWe]

Just put in a nice ejector seat and blow those annoying people out of the ride.

That would especially work well on the Mission: Space ride! They could even build that into the storyline of the ride, and activate it as needed.