People can sue for identites of on-line problems

[LuvOrlando]

I just say in the NY Post that Google was forced to release info on anonymous bloggers who go after other people. I can only imagine it will lend itself to posters too. Hmmm, I think many people are in for trouble, the law has finally reached the internet Defamation is still wrong

How does the saying go? Every dog will have its day. I LOVE that one

To find info on the lawsuit etc look up the model Liskula Cohen.

 

[Heidict]

Not to familiar with this situation. Read some articles and still a bit confused. Why did she go after this blogger? Were they just calling her names or where they stalking her, threatening her or putting her life in danger?

 

[MushyMushy]

Cyber bullies beware.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1910409

Not sure how I feel about this. While I think hateful sites like that are just plain wrong, there's a free speech issue as long as people aren't being libelous (which a few sites I've seen definitely cross that line).

 

[LuvOrlando]

Not to familiar with this situation. Read some articles and still a bit confused. Why did she go after this blogger? Were they just calling her names or where they stalking her, threatening her or putting her life in danger?

How do I say this in a DIS friendly way. Some 'NAME calling' is defamation of character because it implies certain behaviors that may not be true.

It is illegal to call people certain names unless the names fit the character of the person. This falls into libel, slander and defamation of character... all illegal

 

[Ohiodislover]

I saw part of an interview w/ the model. I didn't see the beginning, but it seemed from what I saw that she felt it was hurting her career, as well as being very hurtful. She was being called a slut and skank, among other things, while printing the professional pics of her too. The blogger was revealed as an ex-vogue model

Really weird blog was shut down by google, but they wouldn't release the name until ordered to do so. The model met w/ the blogger, and she really could give no reason why she got her jollies by doing this.

I think their is a civil case pending. The model said she might have felt differently if the blogger had apologized, but who knows??

 

[Heidict]

Okay, so now people can't name call? Perez Hilton is probably shaking in his shoes right now. Isn't that all he does, calling people names like the schoolyard bully? And how would you go about proving the person right or wrong in regards to someone being a skank?

I could understand it if the person felt that they were in danger or if the person was stating things that weren't true and were damaging. But name calling? Seriously? People have become so overly sensitive. Not to mention the whole freedom of speech thing we are supposed to have going on in this country.

 

[LuvOrlando]

When freedom of speech encroaches upon someone else's freedoms they become illegal. Marriages, families and friendships can be destroyed, careers ruined because of malicious words. I for one, am in total and complete agreement with the laws. I am thrilled viciousness can't be thrown under the blanket of 'freedom of speech' any longer.

 

[Heidict]

When freedom of speech encroaches upon someone else's freedoms they become illegal. Marriages, families and friendships can be destroyed, careers ruined because of malicious words. I for one, am in total and complete agreement with the laws. I am thrilled viciousness can't be thrown under the blanket of 'freedom of speech' any longer.

But how is calling someone a skank encroaching on their freedom? Sure it's not nice, and can be very hurtful, but it's just words. What freedom is it preventing?

 

[MushyMushy]

But how is calling someone a skank encroaching on their freedom? Sure it's not nice, and can be very hurtful, but it's just words. What freedom is it preventing?

Freedom from living in peace?

Has the internet desensitized us to name calling? It's so easy to sit anonymously behind a computer and say all sorts of nasty things that you wouldn't do to a person's face. How on earth do you fight that? Don't we try to teach our kids better than that? Name calling is hurtful, plain and simple.

I still don't know where I stand on this. Maybe this kind of behavior should be exposed (such as divulging the names). Maybe it does fall under protected speech and the bullies have the right to privacy. Like I said, I don't know.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

But how is calling someone a skank encroaching on their freedom? Sure it's not nice, and can be very hurtful, but it's just words. What freedom is it preventing?

If an opinion is inherently untrue AND damages the credibility of someone--that falls under libel/slander (depending on how that opinion is conveyed).

I am pleased the law allows some wiggle room for freedom of speech but am equally pleased that folks cannot hide under that umbrella by talking smack that ends up damaging that person.

I am not familiar with this person in question. However, libel and slander cases have been successfully won in the past by the person who sued to get that libel/slander stopped. I'm glad that cyberspace will not be considered immune from those laws.

This isn't saying that you cannot call someone a dork or have an opinion and not like what they do. What you cannot do is seek to damage their credibility based on opinion and not based on facts.

Sadly--the first amendment doesn't entitle us to "live in peace" per se--but it neither protects harrassment or lies.

Sometimes name calling--is much more than name calling.

 

[Kickapoo Joie Juice]

I think the difference here is it's not "Lisa Loves Pooh" having a throwdown with "Kickapoo Joie Juice" but it's a real person who is, in effect, being stalked by an anonymous nutjob.

I've seen some incredibly vulgar (although amusingly poorly written-that seems to go hand in hand) rants online, I think it's the only way many disenfranchised or otherwise powerless women can feel strong or important.

It's terribly inappropriate, but probably harmless.

 

[LuvOrlando]

I don't know that the particular word 'skank' was, in fact the word that drove the suit. There are some, lets say, less than desirable terms used as slurs towards women that indicate being of poor, how shall I say this, moral fiber. Reread some of the articles and you should pick up on the words I mean.

Also, I think cyber stalking needs to be addressed. I seem to recall a case where an 18 year old took her own life this past year due to on-line harassment. If this girls family could have pressed charges and made the stalkers pay she might still be alive.

I think many people need to brush up on their Poly Sci to remember what Freedom of Speech actually means. The right is thrown around so much that the folk-lore of the idea is better known than the actual right itself, which has incidentally been slammed all over the place lately.