Park Bus Stop Unfairness....

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

1st off all the comments flaming the OP were out of line, so now that I got that out of the way here is my reply.

The OP asked if this has happened to anyone before? Well it happened to me last summer, but it was the opposite of what happened to the OP. When my Dad & I got off the Contemporary bus going to MGM, it let us off at a stop which was very close to the park entrance. However when going back to the Contemporary bus it was at the far end of the MGM bus station, so my Dad & I had to run to catch the bus because we did not know if it was going to leave. Unfortunately we missed the bus by a matter of seconds. I am not going to say because we were staying at the Contemporay which was a Deluxe Resort we should have had a station closer to the exit. However at the time I never thought about & after reading this post, maybe WDW should think about how the Resort bus sections are numbered. In the end we missed the bus by a matter of seconds because just before leaving my Dad & I stopped into to look at a photo that was taken by a photopass Cast Member. If we did not look at it then we would have made the bus, so it was our fault for missing it. Was it frustrating at 1st it was, because we would have had to wait 20 + minutes for the next bus. However I noticed a bus going to the TTC so we got on that & took the Resort Monorail from there to the Contemporary.

 

[Cool-Beans]

When we were there in late August we noticed something frustrating. We stayed at WL and when we would arrive at the parks via bus, the bus would OFTEN stop at one of the POP bus stations, which was often number 13 or so, and tell us when we return to go to bus stop number 2 or 3! (because number 2 or 3 was the REAL WL stop). We got frustrated having to walk from far away stops to the park entrance just because our bus was about to turn into a POP bus and needed to be at that station to pick up POP people. It probably sounds petty or snobbish, but part of our choosing a deluxe resort was the transportation perks. Have any of you experienced this? Does it happen frequently or did I get a bad week?

Complaining about public transportation isn't really snobbish. It is what people who take it generally do.

If you're going to ride the bus, you gotta remember three things:

1. The bus leaves when the bus leaves.
2. The bus stops where the bus stops.
3. Anyone can ride the bus.

If you have trouble with any of those things, rent a car.

 

[WDWFUN]

DH says I'm a constant complainer, though when I'm at Disney he say's I'm the opposite ...I'll remember not to complain here!

 

[crazyhunter98]

Complaining about public transportation isn't really snobbish. It is what people who take it generally do.

If you're going to ride the bus, you gotta remember three things:

1. The bus leaves when the bus leaves.
2. The bus stops where the bus stops.
3. Anyone can ride the bus.

If you have trouble with any of those things, rent a car.

lol this was to the point and very funny.we just got back last week and we
were at pop we could have chosen a deluxe but we were only in our rooms to sleep and shower so that is why we picked our resort.but if we did go to the deluxe we would expect a little more out of the resort then the transportation and i do think that a lot of people got the wrong message in what she was tring to say. just remember everyone has an opinion and it may not be what you want to hear or agree with so remember to be nice and think how lucky we were to be able to go to WDW

 

[NewEnglandDisney]

What's "snobbish" is that the OP assumed that because the bus stopped at the Pop he got less of a "deluxe" ride because he paid for "deluxe" transportation and felt that the Pop bus stop must be somehow "value" related.

What's silly and snobbish about that it could have just as easily stopped at any other resort's bus stop - another deluxe, a mod, or a different value. The only reason Pop is the furthest stop at Epcot is NOT because it's a value, but because it was built last.

There was a definite undercurrent to the original post, and the OP apparently doesn't understand that bus service is "class blind" at WDW when it comes to busses. In truth, if you read a lot of different reviews and opinions, you'll find that overall the bus service is a lot worse at many deluxes than values/mods (especially the ones in the MK area, and WL is famed as having some of the worst on property).

The OP didn't pay for "elite" bus treatment - and what's really sad about this thread is that it's a few hundred extra feet of walking, and it was a big enough deal to come here and start a "I stay at a deluxe and I'm offended I was asked to walk from another bus stop" thread.

The whole value/mod/deluxe thing gets a bit out of hand. I've seen some of those discussions (much worse than here), and like everything, there are some people who do play into it. If the OP had been dropped off at one of the bus stops for a deluxe or DVC resort (which are just as far away as Pop, just in a different direction) we wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place. That's why it came across the way it did. When he started in on "I paid for a deluxe..." he pretty much sealed that up.

NED

 

[Kycha]

I can see why it would frustrate someone. Your paying $300 + per night and your going to be inconvenienced for someone who is paying a lot less?

So, should we also sit on the bus according to how much we paid per night? People in standard rooms must sit at the back of the bus, while the concierge level people get to sit at the front and are let off the bus first. Just ridiculous. As a previous poster stated, The deluxe portion you pay for is in the resort accomodations and location, not for the bus service.

I just have to say, that DH and I stayed at Pop in September. Our bus never stopped at our "real" bus stop. Mainly because there was another bus already occupying that spot. And Pop's bus stop was usually at the very end of the row. But I never associated that with being a value resort. I assumed it was because Pop was the last resort built.

 

[NewEnglandDisney]

And Pop's bus stop was usually at the very end of the row. But I never associated that with being a value resort. I assumed it was because Pop was the last resort built.

And you would be correct.

NED

 

[fizz13]

Lighten up people. i kind of understand the OP's point but its not related to the level of accomodation. We were getting dropped off at the furthest bus stop from the entrance to parks (especially at MGM) and I was frustrated because I could see lots of people getting into the park before me and I wanted my magic to start as quickly as possible. Walking the extra distance didn't bother me, taking an extra 3 to 4 mins to the gate did, thats riding time

 

[marivaid]

When he started in on "I paid for a deluxe..." he pretty much sealed that up.

NED

I totally agree with you. She (or he?) lost any sympathy from me when she started with that "deluxe" thing. You're paying more for a deluxe ROOM and deluxe HOTEL so you get a bigger room, fancy decor, better services AT YOUR RESORT. That doesnt include the buses.

When you take a bus in the "real" world it doesnt matter if you live in a million dollar house or in a trailer. Darn, those trailer people may even have a stop closer to their home than yours ! How unfair is that ?

Seriously, people, what's next ? No ADRs for us "value" people ! No FP ! We'll just sit pretty and wait til all of you from the deluxe resort guests are done enjoying the parks and then we'll do a couple rides.

We'll be staying at ASMO not because we cant afford a moderate or deluxe but because we cant see the point of spending so much money for a room we'll spend 8 hours a day in.. sleeping.

 

[NewEnglandDisney]

We'll be staying at ASMO not because we cant afford a moderate or deluxe but because we cant see the point of spending so much money for a room we'll spend 8 hours a day in.. sleeping.

I totally recognize why some people enjoy the "deluxe" experience, but to think that somehow they should have special busses, apparently, that don't stop at whatever location they are going to next, like every other Resort on property, and making the "I paid for Deluxe argument.." just doesn't follow through with the facts of the situation, and the presentation of the argument was poor to begin with.

Now, if they had just come in and said, "Gee, I really didn't like it that my bus didn't go straight to the gate!" I would have said, yup, that stinks when that happens, doesn't it? I'd rather get dropped off at the front, too; and when a driver breaks the rules and drops you off before he goes to his final stop I feel lucky. But no, he had to make it a Deluxe/Value thing by mentioning it.

Regardless, I think the topic has been answered. It had nothing to do with the class of hotel, but just a fact about how the WDW bus system works : for safety, they don't want busses stopping and starting and all dropping people off at the same spot. So they do it this way. Sometimes it means a shorter walk, sometimes longer. In any case, it has nothing to do with the class of hotel you originate from.

I agree with you completely, personally, though. I stay at Pop because I'd rather take four or five trips a year than one or two for the same price, and because I'd much rather spend $ on food and souvineers. I definately see why people who wish to relax more and spend a good deal of time taking advantages of the amenities of a deluxe like doing so, but for me I'd just see the $ ticking away while I sleep, LOL. I live in a costal resort town that people pay thousands to visit in the summer time, and I don't go to WDW for that type of relaxation. I live on the ocean, I get that at home. I go to WDW for the parks and attractions, so a value works great for me and my needs.

NED

 

[Quinn222]

And Pop's bus stop was usually at the very end of the row. But I never associated that with being a value resort. I assumed it was because Pop was the last resort built.

It's because it was the last value resort built. The stops are in order of cost. The most expensive resorts have the closest bus stops and the least expensive are the furthest away. Check it out next time. You'll see deluxes are closest (with WL and WK at the end of that section) then the Mods, then the values.

 

[NewEnglandDisney]

It's because it was the last value resort built. The stops are in order of cost. The most expensive resorts have the closest bus stops and the least expensive are the furthest away. Check it out next time. You'll see deluxes are closest (with WL and WK at the end of that section) then the Mods, then the values.

Although a few have been switched out at different times, that's also roughly the order in which they were built.

The deluxes came first, then a few mods, and then the latest crop of mods came when the first values arrived in 1994ish. Pop is dead last because it's only a few years old.

Regardless, I still worry about the concern of walking a few hundred extra feet...and it could have just as easily been a deluxe, mod, or value. I know we are all in a hurry, but sometimes things just happen for a reason and you go with it. Again, if the OP had just said, "Gee, doesn't it stink when that happens?" I would have agreed, but having to make it a value/mod/deluxe thing just lost the sympathy of many.

NED

 

[shellybaxter]

While I didn't appreciate the elitist attitude of the OP I think it is wrong to say that upgraded transportation isn't part of the deluxe resort perks. First the transportation options grow with each upgrade of hotel class. Lower priced hotels don't have as many transportation options. The values only have bus transporation and sometimes share buses. Most of the mods only have bus transportation as well, two have boat transportation to DTD. The AKL is the only deluxe that only has bus transporation. The top level deluxes have boat, monorail, and/or bus transporation and some are within walking distance of a park or two. And regardless of the reason (build order or whatever) when we stayed at the Grand Floridian our bus stops were closer than when we stayed at the WL and our WL bus stops were closer than when we stayed at POR. Resort class and the amount of money paid per night certainly does give guests transportation perks, just not the one that the OP wanted, closer drop offs.

 

[goofy4tink]

The deluxe resorts usually have some 'special' transportation perk...WL has the boat to MK. GF, CR and Polynesian have monorail to MK. CR has the walkway. BW, YC/BC you can walk to either Epcot or MGM. But I have to tell you....sometimes those deluxe resorts have miserable bus service to the other parks. Go figure. Anyway....if you think it's bad having to walk from the POP stop early in the day, try doing it at the end of a long day!!! Man. But....at MGM and DTD, the POP stop is closer that a lot of the deluxes. Not sure why.

 

[mattsdragon]

What a petty complaint. I agree with the poster that said this board is becoming replete with these type of complaints.

 

[Frantasmic]

You whipper snappers. I remember going to WDW in snow 6 feet thick, uphill both ways when I was younger.

Bus service? You all have it easy.

 

[Quinn222]

Regardless, I still worry about the concern of walking a few hundred extra feet...

True, if you can't walk a few extra bus lengths this may not be the vacation for you.

 

[cabanafrau]

You whipper snappers. I remember going to WDW in snow 6 feet thick, uphill both ways when I was younger.

Bus service? You all have it easy.

 

[kvogel11202]

Let them eat cake huh!! The above statement so enraged me! Just because I can't always stay at a Deluxe doesn't make me a second class citizen. It just means I can't afford as nice a place as I'd like to stay, that has nothing to do with transportation. Busses are offered as a standard service to everyone that stays on property. It doesn't matter which resort or how much you paid. The drop off is not guaranteed at a particular place, if you assumed this well thats your own fault, not the people who paid less for a room. In all honesty the bus stops are dedicated to a resort for pick up only, they can drop off anywhere!! And as for paying more for a room the best busses I've had have been at the All Stars and some of the worst were at WL. So take your hoity toity *** and shove it!!!

Nothing I said was meant as a slam on those who could not afford to stay at the Deluxe resort, it was a simple statement of why I am willing to pay that price, if you are not able to, that's not anything I care about remotely. You took a simple statement and made it into a slam...and then totally insulted me. I think you are the one who needs to maybe chill out.

 

[wdwcoltsfan]

Are you making some kind of a joke?

Wow, if that was the worst thing that happened to me in a week, I would count my blessings.

It certainly seems this board is becoming overrun with petty complaints about strollers, not winning prizes, lack of discounts, people not giving someone a seat on the bus, people walking too slow or standing still too long.

People really need to stop and think about how lucky they are to be at Disney World and stop worrying about the small stuff. I know lots of families who will never have the opportunity to even be there.

Rant over.

Thank You!

I haven't read the rest of the posts, but I sooooo agree with this!


Rachel