Own multiple UYs with separate member ID... question on transferring points

[Bucketfoot]

We currently have two Member IDs. The first is a Feb UY and has our direct VGF & VDH points. However we are in the process of purchasing a resale Feb UY AKV contract that will be added to this member ID. Our second member ID has our existing resale AKV contract with an Oct UY.

Are there any things I need to be aware of when transferring points between contracts with different Member IDs/Use Years?

Our plans are that later in the year we are going to be booking as much as we can at the 11 month window for our daughter's Disney wedding. We are currently have a smaller AKV contract with a different member ID & UY (Oct) than our direct points. We are also in the process of purchasing a second slightly larger AKV contract that has the same UY (Feb) as our direct points and will end up under that member ID.

In order to most effectively use our points at the 11 month window we are going to want to do a transfer and combine all of our AKV points into one of our AKV contracts. Then prior to hitting the 7 month window we will need to transfer some of our VDH points to be able to book the last couple of nights.

We had heard that you can only do one transfer a year, but my wife called member services the other day and was told that rule applies to transfers between different owners and that because we are the owners of both memberships we would have unlimited transfers. I don't want to doubt them, but if anyone has done this before ot would be great to hear as a confirmation!

 

[RoseGold]

I don't see why you would need to transfer for this. It would just add complication. I'd just leave the points as they are and book it as the other member number.

 

[Cyberc1978]

Transfer between memberships have no limits and you can do a 100 transfers if you want to.

Transfers between members are limited to 1 per UY.

You only need to transfer your AKV points between your memberships if you need to use all points or most for a single reservation. Could also be if you are like 5 points short on one membership to complete a reservation

 

[Bucketfoot]

I don't see why you would need to transfer for this. It would just add complication. I'd just leave the points as they are and book it as the other member number.

Won't be able to use all the points without combining them and are trying to use all of them if possible.

 

[RoseGold]

You can book it as a "split stay" using the two member numbers and borrow within the memberships. Transferring is a mess, and I wouldn't do it unless I absolutely had to, like you're trying to book a grand villa or something. Even then, I'd rather split stay.

 

[Bucketfoot]

Because we will be booking part of the trip at 11 months and the other part at 7 months, part of what I am trying to do is to have the whole thing under one member ID as MS cannot combine reservations from two different member IDs.

We learned this when we booked our upcoming trip (split stay at AKV & VGF) where we needed to use some VGF points for one night of our AKV stay.

They put notes in both reservations, but without them being combined cannot assure we will have the same room the whole time at that particular resort.

 

[drusba]

Though the stated rule is that one can do only one transfer per use year (in or out), DVC has historically not applied that rule to a member transferring points from one of his memberships to another owned by the same member, and instead has allowed multiple transfers per use year in that situation. The only issue is that doing so has never been expressly stated in writing by DVC to actually be an exception to the one transfer rule, i.e., there is some possible risk that DVC may, at some time in the future, start prohibiting such multiple transfers.

Though transferring points is a method one can use to combine the points for a single room and trip, there is an alternative -- use one use year points to book part of the reservation and then the other use year points to book the remainder of the reservation. As long as the two reservations are for the same resort and class of room, and the named persons in the room are the same for both rooms, you can contact MS and have it link the two reservations, which will prevent having to change rooms (that always works to prevent changing rooms as long as you just remind the particular resort of the link of two reservations when you actually arrive).

I cannot tell from what you provide whether you actually need to do multiple transfers even if you are considering using transfers, e.g., you could possibly transfer the Oct use year AKV points into the Feb use year membership, and thus all points will be available in one membership. You mention that you will also need to transfer VGH points to add to the reservation at 7-months out but that contract does not require any transfer to add to any already existing reservation made at 11-months out with points already in the Feb use year. Also, it sounds like you might be intending to book multiple rooms, in which case transferring points may not make a difference.

In any event, in considering transfers, be aware of the general rules applicable to them. Even under the single transfer rule, you can actually do two transfer at once -- one from your current use year and one from the next use year. Neither already banked nor already borrowed points can be transferred, and points your membership receives via transfer can be banked but not borrowed. And transferred points always retain their own use year and own banking deadline.

 

[Bucketfoot]

From what I am hearing and reading it appears that you cannot transfer borrowed points. So I couldn't borrow my 2025 points from our UY1 contract and then transfer them to the UY2 contract.

But could I transfer my 2024 & 2025 UY1 contract points separately to 2024 & 2025 of the UY2 contract and then borrow the combined 2025 points for use in 2024?

 

[drusba]

From what I am hearing and reading it appears that you cannot transfer borrowed points. So I couldn't borrow my 2025 points from our UY1 contract and then transfer them to the UY2 contract.

But could I transfer my 2024 & 2025 UY1 contract points separately to 2024 & 2025 of the UY2 contract and then borrow the combined 2025 points for use in 2024?

No, that would not be allowed. Points once transferred (even if it is the same member using two memberships), cannot possibly be borrowed (they can be banked but not borrowed). Thus, any 2025 use year points transferred from one membership to another cannot possibly be used for a trip during the 2024 use year applicable to those transferred points. Moreover, your Oct 2024 use year points transferred into your Feb 2024 use year could not possibly be used for any trip that ends on or before Sep 30, 2024.

Example, suppose you transferred your Oct 2024 points to your Feb 2024 use year and the wedding stay you are having is in August 2024. Those Oct 2024 points cannot after transfer be borrowed to make any reservation that ends on or before Sep 30, 2024.

 

[Bucketfoot]

Well I guess I figure out the best way of using the two AKV contract points separately.

 

[Sandisw]

Well I guess I figure out the best way of using the two AKV contract points separately.

Are you booking more than one room? If so, you could book some on one memberhsip and some on the other?

 

[TCRAIG]

Well I guess I figure out the best way of using the two AKV contract points separately.

You can make a reservation under each UY/Member # and then have Member Service ‘link’ them together as a ‘continuing’ stay so they’ll keep you in the same room…I do it all the time…book a room under membership A from days 1-4 and then another using membership B for days 5-8 at the same resort/room type and get MS to show as a continuing stay…

 

[Sandisw]

You can make a reservation under each UY/Member # and then have Member Service ‘link’ them together as a ‘continuing’ stay so they’ll keep you in the same room…I do it all the time…book a room under membership A from days 1-4 and then another using membership B for days 5-8 at the same resort/room type and get MS to show as a continuing stay…

We do it all the time as well, but they will tell you it is not guaranteed….we have never had to change rooms and it benefits them to keep you in the same room…

But I know some people do worry.

 

[Bucketfoot]

You can make a reservation under each UY/Member # and then have Member Service ‘link’ them together as a ‘continuing’ stay so they’ll keep you in the same room…I do it all the time…book a room under membership A from days 1-4 and then another using membership B for days 5-8 at the same resort/room type and get MS to show as a continuing stay…

Yep, we did this for our upcoming stay. But like Sandisw said it is not guaranteed. Now do I expect they will likely keep us in the same room... yes. It would just be nice for them to be physically connected in the system versus with comment.

Bottom line is that we will make it work!

 

[Bucketfoot]

Are you booking more than one room? If so, you could book some on one memberhsip and some on the other?

Yes, but at most the secondary room will be for two nights in a studio and we were doing this with points. We are new to DVC, but both my wife and I like playing with numbers

We are basically booking a room for the groom & groomsmen to be able to get ready for the wedding in the morning (it will be a god awful early morning wedding).

We've got it down to where we will only have 10 points leftover on one of the contracts and 3 on the other.

 

[intamin]

You can make a reservation under each UY/Member # and then have Member Service ‘link’ them together as a ‘continuing’ stay so they’ll keep you in the same room…I do it all the time…book a room under membership A from days 1-4 and then another using membership B for days 5-8 at the same resort/room type and get MS to show as a continuing stay…

Each separate reservation retains it's original reservation number though right? It was my understanding that they essentially just write a note saying that it's a continuing stay and not to move them but you still have to book dining twice at the start of the second reservation

 

[TCRAIG]

Each separate reservation retains it's original reservation number though right? It was my understanding that they essentially just write a note saying that it's a continuing stay and not to move them but you still have to book dining twice at the start of the second reservation

Correct on both statements-

 

[Bucketfoot]

One more related question/scenario...

Let's say I want to book 6 nights at AKV starting 10/1/2024 and want to book 3 nights with each of my AKV contracts. Again these are different use years and under different Member IDs.

My assumption is that I can book the first 3 nights starting 10/1/2024 with contract A on 11/1/2023, but I will then need to wait until 11/4/2023 to book the next 3 nights that start 10/4/2024.

This is what I am prepared to do, but I figured I would check to see if there is a way that I can the entire 6 nights on 11/1.

 

[Sandisw]

One more related question/scenario...

Let's say I want to book 6 nights at AKV starting 10/1/2024 and want to book 3 nights with each of my AKV contracts. Again these are different use years and under different Member IDs.

My assumption is that I can book the first 3 nights starting 10/1/2024 with contract A on 11/1/2023, but I will then need to wait until 11/4/2023 to book the next 3 nights that start 10/4/2024.

This is what I am prepared to do, but I figured I would check to see if there is a way that I can the entire 6 nights on 11/1.

This is correct…but, if you are worried there is a risk of not getting the room for the later dates, you can book both starting on 11/1, for the same dates, and then wait a few days and walk it forward by modifying it to the real dates.

I have done that for my hard to get rooms when I am booking on two different memberships.

 

[intamin]

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