Overbooking ADR's without cancelling

[melomouse]

Gay marriage and Iraq and handicapped stalls - OH MY!


Evil Queen,. if you insist on being rude and entitled about your ressies (and better than the rest of us here), go for it. Just please don't share how proud you are. Certainly don't ask us to applaud brazen defiance of the laws of civilized society.

One day you might "get it" and you may not. Maturity occurs later or never for some. But don't ask DIS members to accept unacceptable behaviors.

 

[BCV23]

And FWIW, Hoop De Doo Review has had a credit card guarantee for as long as I can remember. Why is that any different?

Anne

I think because it was historically in such high demand and also possibly because it does take a real committment in time to even get there. It's not as if someone could call at 4pm and cancel for the early show and then another family could easily call, book and get there. I think both things apply to CG now as well to some extent anyway.

Of course, I'm just guessing.

 

[Evil Queen]

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

What truth? That wouldn't be a personal attack now, would it? I answered the OP's question, plain and simple. You didn't like it and said so. I responded to your post, it's all good. Well, for me anyway. I'm not here for anyone's approval.

When Disney let's me make ADR's for ESPN Club and All Stars, I will change the 2 ressies for then. Just because I can pick up the phone and make reservations before hand for the other places so I don't have to drag my DS10 around looking for dinner, than it won't change on my part. Don't see why others can't. As for being booked solid (with the exception of a few places-which I have no intention of going to those places) I have not had the first hard time experience getting the times I am trying for, so tells me-not as booked up as some think/say it is.

I can understand the mug police, the pool hopping police and now we have the ADR police. OMG, the Dis just has a full fledged department, huh? BOOK EM NOTNO!

 

[ducklite]

When Disney let's me make ADR's for ESPN Club and All Stars

Neither of these restaurants are DIsney owned or operated, so it has nothing to do with DISNEY allowing or not allowing you to make ADR's.

Anne

 

[Evil Queen]

Gay marriage and Iraq and handicapped stalls - OH MY!


Evil Queen,. if you insist on being rude and entitled about your ressies (and better than the rest of us here), go for it. Just please don't share how proud you are. Certainly don't ask us to applaud brazen defiance of the laws of civilized society.

One day you might "get it" and you may not. Maturity occurs later or never for some. But don't ask DIS members to accept unacceptable behaviors.

Who did I ask to except it? I just said I won't change the ADR's.

I don't feel I need to explain myself, but I think I'll lay it on the line.

I don't feel like I deserve any reservation entitlements (that actually made me chuckle-thanks ). I do expect to be able to dine, and dine I will.

My DS10 wants to eat at ESPN Club and All Star Cafe, ADR booking CM, said they don't take ressies here. That's certainly not MY fault, is it? I made a backup plan, so I'm not driving around at 7 or 8 p.m. with a 10 year old (who has Severe's Disease) looking for somewhere we won't have a long wait, making him stand any longer than he needs to, due to his medical problems.

As for the Tony's DINNER ADR, they will know by 10:30 AM, that I am canceling, if I decide too (which some posters on this thread don't seem to have a problem with breaking them if it's a day earlier or at least eariler in the day) so I can't see why that is ruffling feathers. I have every intention of eating the TS breakfast that morning, and shoot maybe after that meal MAY still decide I want to eat at Tony's, but I will know by that morning.

That leaves 1 rest. in DTD for Raglan Road. That one we don't want will be cancelled by noon or 1 p.m. at the latest.

As far as rudeness, there are many more on these boards who are much more rude than I.

 

[Anewman]

As far as rudeness, there are many more on these boards who are much more rude than I.

AGREED.

You at least plan to cancel your unneeded tables and free them upto other vactioners. While others book 2-3 ADRs for the same time period knowing they will only use one, and they do not feel the need to cancel even after they decide which to use.

 

[Evil Queen]

Neither of these restaurants are DIsney owned or operated, so it has nothing to do with DISNEY allowing or not allowing you to make ADR's.

Anne

Ok, thanks I didn't know that. But Disney doesn't allow me to make ADR's, either way (now I know why).

 

[Mom of Sleepy Bashful and BabyDoc]

We don't ALL know it's rude. I don't think it's rude. Personally, I don't think it's right for me - but that's because I don't really care for the "freedom" or spontaneity or whatever. But rude? No. I think maybe we all should step away from the computers and into the real world to see what rude really is.

"rude.............. lacking refinement or delicacy, offensive in manner or action"

I think most people would think it rude under that definition. There are different levels of rude, ofcourse, but that doesn't make a small "offense" any less rude.

I will say it once again........I am not saying this with any anger, and I'm trying to be civil and courteous.

Actually, none of this even affects me because I am one that makes her ADR's WELL in advance because of situations just like this. Who I feel badly for are the people who didn't plan or were last minute vacationers and they come up against this stuff. They just want a meal for pity sake!

This is the last I will say on this subject because I know I have better things to do..... but I'm not really worried about it. Disney will only take so much and then they will step in and make adjustments. They might be more inconvenient for me, but what am I going to do....not go to WDW?? \

Oh, and Anne........I hope you get to eat at whatever place you choose at WDW even if it's everyday............Lucky Duck! (pun intended )

 

[heatherlynn444]

People keep saying they make more than one ADR b/c they "aren't sure what they are going to feel like eating." well, everyone else shouldn't to suffer b/c you are indecisive. Pick a dang restaurant and then go eat there. I mean really. you obviously think highly enough of teh restaurant to make an ADR so just do it! and it doesn't matter what you decide to do that day. if originally you had an ADR for Le Cellier for dinner, but got up that morning and wanted to go to MK, you can STILL spend all day at MK and go to Epcot for dinner. It is simple logic folks. don't ruin other ppl's ADR plans b/c you have poor decision making skills!

 

[Amyrlin]

I can understand why this might be done, and even if one was cancelled the same day I could understand, although I would not do it. Ultimately, each person has to make their own decision. However, think of it this way

If you are there for a week, and may 3 ADRs for each day, only to use 1, that is 2 unused, Over 7 days that means you could be denying 14 families their first choice restaurant. If it is two a day then it is 7 families.

This is different from booking one and then cancelling it if you are not going to use it. If there are a few days where two are made and then one is cancelled then I owuld not think to badly of it, ut to book three a day and use one, simply not turning up for others is an abuse of the system.

 

[nurseypoo5]

Finally, using your statement of "options/inconvenience" - it's your option to not have more than one ADR. It's your option to complain about people who do and to try and limit it from happening. Isn't that an inconvenience to those who want more than one ADR? And therefore, isn't it "wrong"?

I had overlapping ADRs (im still 3 months out from our trip) on 4 days and when i finalized them today i had a CM tell that I needed to delete all but one of them that overlap. Well, that is why i was calling, to cancel them for others. He said that Disney was now deleting ADRs that over lapped and im not talking time for time..seems one of my 50's prime time adrs were deleted without my knowlege, which was fine with me since i didnt even know i had that ADR. I only had 4 that were duplicates and was more than happy to let them go, and had always had the intention to do so once my plans finalized.

I think that Disney is getting tired of multiple ADRs even temporary ones like I had. The CM told me that is why they now make use a CC on restaurants like California Grill and fantasmic packages, to curtail no shows and multiple ADR's.

I felt AWFUL about having a couple of temporary ADRs on my books let alone having 3-4 a day and pooping on the rest of those that wish to FOLLOW THE RULES and make an ADR in advance.

It is NOT all about you. Why rain on some other families parades because you wish to be so selfish? If you have 2 extra ADRS youve messed up 2 families plans. How in the world is that fair or exceptable? Buck up and play fair!

 

[LeesyUD]

I also wanted to add on here to those that make several ADR's, I understand being indecisive about what you might want to eat on a particular day 6 months from now, but if you know that is how you are then save those ADR's for those people that know NOW where they want to go. There are alot of people that go to Disney that like to plan their ADR's ahead of time and know what restaurants they want each day and will stick to them. Last time I went to Disney I booked all my ADR's with the full intention of going to all them...and I did with the exception of 1 character breakfast on my last day there bc I woke up with a fever and bad cold that day we were leaving (boy was that a miserable flight home!) Anyway I was considerate enough, even being sick to call and cancel about an hour before. When I spoke with the rep, she thanked me several times for calling to cancel bc she said most people do not have the courtesy to call, and instead just don't show up. I had felt bad that I couldn't cancel earlier even though there was no way to know I was going to be sick. But after speaking with the rep I realized at least I had every intention of going but just had an unfortunate situation that prevented me from going. Some people just don't care. At least in my case I had good reason to cancel last minute, I would not have been able to eat being so sick and I would have spread so many germs around. I canceled as early as I could so at least hopefully someone could get my table and enjoy it in my place.

 

[bsmcneil]

I had overlapping ADRs (im still 3 months out from our trip) on 4 days and when i finalized them today i had a CM tell that I needed to delete all but one of them that overlap. Well, that is why i was calling, to cancel them for others. He said that Disney was now deleting ADRs that over lapped and im not talking time for time..seems one of my 50's prime time adrs were deleted without my knowlege, which was fine with me since i didnt even know i had that ADR. I only had 4 that were duplicates and was more than happy to let them go, and had always had the intention to do so once my plans finalized.

I think that Disney is getting tired of multiple ADRs even temporary ones like I had. The CM told me that is why they now make use a CC on restaurants like California Grill and fantasmic packages, to curtail no shows and multiple ADR's.

I felt AWFUL about having a couple of temporary ADRs on my books let alone having 3-4 a day and pooping on the rest of those that wish to FOLLOW THE RULES and make an ADR in advance.

It is NOT all about you. Why rain on some other families parades because you wish to be so selfish? If you have 2 extra ADRS youve messed up 2 families plans. How in the world is that fair or exceptable? Buck up and play fair!

Since you quoted me and then said, "It is not all about you, etc" let me point out that I said that I thought it was wrong (however, that does not make it so, necessarily). So, maybe you just clicked "quote" without thinking - if not, re-read my posts. And I think you mean acceptable.

 

[bsmcneil]

You're not getting the entire point.

I can choose to eat a lot of places. I choose to give my business to Disney.

If I can't get an ADR, I'm not going to make teh drive to "try."

If People weren't rude and selfish and didn't make ADR's they weren't going to use, then I possibly could get one.

Instead tables go empty.

And you're telling me that I'm doing something wrong?

Where I live should have no bearing on this issue. It would be the same for someone who has the opportunity to make a last minute trip.

Put the green moster away, it's highly unattractive.

Anne

Anne

I didn't say what you did was wrong - I said that you get to eat at your choice of hundreds of restaurants and that maybe you should find something more important to complain about that people on vacation. Big difference. I assume "green moster [sic]" is an allusion to jealousy. If so, you're incredibly mistaken. Incredibly.

 

[bsmcneil]

It seems that someone is very passionate about allowing for multiple simultaneous ADRs. I wonder if they'd feel the same if they were denied the ability to eat at their favorite TS knowing that was the root cause. Take a deep breath ...

Wondering who you meant by "someone." If it's me - I've said I don't agree with the multiple/simultaneous ADRs, but won't chastise those who do. And for what it's worth, if I couldn't eat at my favorite TS - then life would, assuredly, go on. My vacation would still be good and I would still enjoy the magic of WDW.

 

[bsmcneil]

Visa check cards would work as well, and nothing would be charged unless you were a no show.



Many restaurants in major cities have credit card guarantees, I do'nt see the problem. People don't generally get sick at the last minute. For people who do, they can also wait to the last minute to make a ADR. OR like you suggested to me--eat at home or elsewhere.



15 minutes would be appropriate. Some leeway might be extended if it's an off season (restaurant not sold out) and you do ultimately show up.



Not everyone who dines at WDW restaurants is a vacationer. There are over a million people who live within an hour or so drive of WDW. There are business people there at conferences and conventions. It would be very tunnelvisioned of WDW to cater exclusively to vacationers.

If you know you have to be at an ADR, you don't risk being late by getting in one last ride. Youc an always go back after dinner. I think once I've been late for an ADR, due to a traffic accident that closed a road. I called the restaurant and let them know the situation. This allowed them to seat others with ADR's who had already arrived at my table and seat me when I arrived.

As far as flaming, look at what you did to me. Pot-Kettle.

Anne

Touché and my apologies. And you?

 

[Sonno]

I made the points I've needed to make in this waste of a thread. Some people are just plain rude and selfish, simple as that. What can you do?

Best of luck.

 

[have2getaway]

I'm going to get yelled at by all the future posters on this thread, but we also book 2-3 ADRs per meal and choose for both lunch and dinner. We do them in different parks sometimes depending on where we feel like going. We don't like being locked into a schedule. Besides, if you don't show up after fifteen minutes they give your table to someone who walks up.

Do you have small children? My guess is no, because if you did you would realize what a challenge it can be to eat out, let alone wait for a table, at a restaurant with small kids. It is also upsetting to think that there are other families out there, like me, with small kids that are being told that all that is left for their family to eat is 7:00 pm or later.

 

[hockeymomoftwo]

I so far have not had any problems getting any of my ADR's for when I wanted them with a few exceptions but I'm going in Sept which I know is not so busy and I don't think I've been choosing some of the more popular spots.

However this is our first trip with our kids and we have only been once on our honeymoon. We do not plan on going back until probably the kids are almost out of the home. With that in mind my intention is to try and make our trip as memorable as possible (without going nutty) because we can't come back next year and do XYZ.

I try to live my life by the golden rule and if others did so maybe this problem wouldn't exist. I understand there are always going to be some people who need some leniancy such as the poster who had a child with medical illness, but those are probably the folks that need the adr's the most.

I have changed my adrs many times over with planning and probably will do so again but I always cancel right after I confirm my new ressie. Never even thought of making multiple res's.

I know that if I don't cancel my dr's office appt 24 hours prior I'm going to get a bill. This helps fill appts and pay the bills. If it becomes too expensive to operate with leniancy in booking then prices may go up. I would hate to see that happen as wdw are high enough.

Just my 2 cents.

Hope some pixie dust get sent to this thread.

 

[Uncleromulus]

Yes--I'm hoping for a little of that myself...