Overbooking ADR's without cancelling

[Evil Queen]

Sorry, this isn't any better. Although your last-second cancellations may afford someone to have a chance at having a 'walk-up', you're still denying others the ability to secure a reservation. Weak, weak, weak ....

I answered the OP question, I was not asking for your approval. Thanks anyway.

And I won't change the way I'm doing it either.

 

[justplaingoofy]

I also do not agree with doing that... I have had many families that are only able to visit Disney for 4-5 days and have been unable to get ADR because they are booked.... just don't think thats fair...

 

[justplaingoofy]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I wish Disney would start charging a deposit for each reservation made ahead of time. If the person making the reservation cancels within a set time frame, the deposit is refunded. If they do not show up, the deposit is forfited.

I think the deposit should be somewhere in the $20 to $25 range. This would probably cause those who make reservations without planning ahead, from blocking others from making the reservations they would like to make and honor.

ANYONE FROM WDW READING THIS? PLEASE START REQUIRING A DEPOSIT WHEN A MEAL RESERVATION IS MADE.

Thanks.

Well said!!!

 

[torinsmom]

I agree with the CC authorization, but for me 4 TS meals x $25 deposit each is a bit much. That would be $100 that I would have to pay off on a CC and then have refunded? Or do you mean, someone would be charged $25 if they did not cancel 24 hours or more before? That would make more sense to me.

We didn't make an early morning ADR last trip because we overslept, but then we just called and booked Le Cellier for dinner instead(surprise, it was available last minute).

Like someone else said, make multiple if you need to during planning, but then narrow it down and cancel the ones you don't need. Can't your family sit down and decide where they want to eat before that very day? Booking multiple ADR's for each meal and then only using one sure does affect other potential diners and the servers as well.

Marsha

 

[notnothin]

I answered the OP question, I was not asking for your approval. Thanks anyway.

And I won't change the way I'm doing it either.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

 

[Sonno]

I answered the OP question, I was not asking for your approval. Thanks anyway.

And I won't change the way I'm doing it either.

Well gee... thanks.

 

[ducklite]

I agree with the CC authorization, but for me 4 TS meals x $25 deposit each is a bit much. That would be $100 that I would have to pay off on a CC and then have refunded? Or do you mean, someone would be charged $25 if they did not cancel 24 hours or more before? That would make more sense to me.

No, it would just be a hold. Nothing would be charged to your card unless you didn't show up. I can't imagine anyone having a problem with this, other than ADR hogs.

Anne

 

[BillSears]

This thread just makes me think of that Dennis Leary song. Everyone sing along. "I'm an A......."

 

[LuluLovesDisney]

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

They won't change the way they're doing it, but WDW might change it for them! Anyone else remember when many double bookings were all cancelled and people were on here complaining? Served them right.

Come on, credit card policy!

 

[Mackey Mouse]

This is a very hot topic and one we will be watching.

I only book one reservation for lunch or dinner. I think it comes from feeling like you have to get it all in and you might miss something. You come once a year or every two years or even more than that and you want to make sure you go for the gusto but have not locked yourself into anything. Is it fair to others?? I think personally it is up to Disney to monitor this. There has to be a way that they can eliminate people holding up reservations and not showing and avoid turning people away who might have eaten there. It does come down to dollars and cents.

Of course, I am a rule follower so even if I have a reservation and for some reason we are not going to make it, I cancel it because someone else can have our spot. It seems like the right to do especially since ADR's are becoming increasingly difficult to get..

I am not going to flame anyone here and I certainly would prefer that we kept this as a discussion and not get into a heated argument over it. I do not think we should judge anyone as I do feel it is Disney's job to allow one reservation for dinner or lunch. Maybe having to leave a credit card when you make a dining reservation will be in our future at WDW.

 

[DisneyMim]

I too think this is very rude and I always have. I agree that Disney should make people leave a deposit (credit card). To me it is just plain common courtesy for people to only make one reservation per meal and to even have to think about leaving a deposit is very telling about how our society is today. Way too many people thinking they are very special. We've been going to Disney forever and on the rare occasions when we have decided to not keep our reservation we've always called the restaurant and told them. Almost every time the CM are shocked and thank us over and over. They always say that hardly anyone ever does this. I couldn't imagine NOT doing this. I hope that someone else can use our time and enjoy a nice meal. Sadly most people do not think this way. Maybe it's a coincidence, but I always get the feeling that my family is treated very well all over Disney. I like to think that our names are on the "good" list!! LOL!!

 

[PortieOwner]

In the past I always made my ADRs and stuck by them. But with a child along (and the dining plan) I found last time I cancelled 2 or maybe 3 meals. I did call Guest Services or Dining either the day before or at least some hours before to cancel. I cannot see making multiple ADRs for mealtimes and I think WDW's computers may catch up to you on it--I recall last summer several people lost many of their ADRs because of this. They didn't find out until they showed up at the restaurants.

Portie

 

[Mom of Sleepy Bashful and BabyDoc]

On the web, it is sometimes hard to speak without sounding all hot under the collar.......this isn't meant to sound angry, so don't take it that way. I just have a few comments and some questions for those who make multiple ADR's.


One............. Yes, it is rude and yes, everyone knows it. So, when you are at home, do you make three dinner reservations and only show up for one without cancelling the other two? Just wondering.

Two............. Disney doesn't even need to go as far as a CC hold. When someone goes to make a reservation within two hours of the other one, they should have a policy that the CM will not take the reservation. I would have no problem with that. I don't need to eat a sit down meal every two hours.

Three.............. so you all that make multiple ressies........you are telling me you don't know a few hours ahead of time where you will be eating so you could cancel the other one or two ressies? I must be too good of a planner........I know WAY ahead of time where we will be. And if I don't, I would just choose my counter service meal then.

Seems easy enough to me.

 

[LeesyUD]

I answered the OP question, I was not asking for your approval. Thanks anyway.

And I won't change the way I'm doing it either.

Oh but see people like you are going to have to change eventually bc at some point bc of people thinking so selfishly the way you are, Disney will start using a cc deposit for all restaurants...they already have for signature dining...and then you will really be whining and there will be more ADR's for the people that are honest and considerate. So seriously, change now that way you can get adjusted before the roles are reversed and us honest people are happy and you are complaining.

 

[Anewman]

While I do feel it is rude, as long as Disney allows it to take place...

Refillable mugs.
Cutting in line at buffet(for whatever reason).
Using handicapped stalls(restrooms or parking).
etc...

They can all be rationalized by the person doing it, but IMO it is all very SELF CENTERED and rude.
The difference IMO is that if someone takes a 10 year old refillable mug and fills it up at the fountain, it does not directly affect any of their fellow vactioners.
But
When a person books an ADR knowing very well they may not keep it, it does DIRECTLY affect fellow Disney vactioners. BUT THEY DONT CARE, and we already knew that.

 

[ktpool]

Using handicapped stalls(restrooms or parking).
etc...

They can all be rationalized by the person doing it, but IMO it is all very SELF CENTERED and rude.

This is completely OT, but....using a handicapped bathroom and parking in a handicapped space are 2 WAY different things, for gosh sakes!

A handicapped accessible restroom is just that..accessible.

It doesn't mean it has to sit empty for hours or even days on end until a handicapped person needs it. Using the bathroom only takes a few minutes, at the most. I will take my young children into the handicapped bathroom because we all DON"T FIT into a regular stall. This is not hurting anyone...even if a handicapped person has to wait 2 minutes for us to get out. The are not labeled handicapped ONLY - unlike the parking, which rightly should be for very valid reasons.

 

[bsmcneil]

I think what you so is extrememly rude. I live near WDW and often decide during the afternoon that I'd like to dine at one of the restaurants there that evening. If you'd at least have the courtesy to cancel (you can do so at the podium of ANY WDW restaurant or guest services) it would give someone the opportunity to pick up that reservation. I'm not going to make a 60-90 minute r/t on the thought that I *might* be able to pick up a no-show slot.

Some restuarants turn away people all day for that evening's dinner--Le Cellier is a prime example. If you'd just have the common decency to cancel, someone could get a little extra magic in theri day.

I wish WDW would require a credit card hold for every ADR to put an end to ADR hogs.

Anne

Regardless of the "morality" (what a laugh, morality in a discussion over reservations), you have the ability to go to a restaurant at WDW, randomly, and are upset because you may not get the table you want because people are allowing themselves options on their vacation? If it's such a problem for you, how about eating at home?

 

[Anewman]

This is completely OT, but....using a handicapped bathroom and parking in a handicapped space are 2 WAY different things, for gosh sakes!

A handicapped accessible restroom is just that..accessible.

It doesn't mean it has to sit empty for hours or even days on end until a handicapped person needs it. Using the bathroom only takes a few minutes, at the most. I will take my young children into the handicapped bathroom because we all DON"T FIT into a regular stall. This is not hurting anyone...even if a handicapped person has to wait 2 minutes for us to get out. The are not labeled handicapped ONLY - unlike the parking, which rightly should be for very valid reasons.

This is YOUR opinion, and like I said everything can be rationalized by the person that does it...

I used it as an EXAMPLE but feel free to start a seperate thread to debate it specificaly.

 

[bsmcneil]

On the web, it is sometimes hard to speak without sounding all hot under the collar.......this isn't meant to sound angry, so don't take it that way. I just have a few comments and some questions for those who make multiple ADR's.


One............. Yes, it is rude and yes, everyone knows it. So, when you are at home, do you make three dinner reservations and only show up for one without cancelling the other two? Just wondering.

Two............. Disney doesn't even need to go as far as a CC hold. When someone goes to make a reservation within two hours of the other one, they should have a policy that the CM will not take the reservation. I would have no problem with that. I don't need to eat a sit down meal every two hours.

Three.............. so you all that make multiple ressies........you are telling me you don't know a few hours ahead of time where you will be eating so you could cancel the other one or two ressies? I must be too good of a planner........I know WAY ahead of time where we will be. And if I don't, I would just choose my counter service meal then.

Seems easy enough to me.

We don't ALL know it's rude. I don't think it's rude. Personally, I don't think it's right for me - but that's because I don't really care for the "freedom" or spontaneity or whatever. But rude? No. I think maybe we all should step away from the computers and into the real world to see what rude really is.

A CC deposit, etc is problematic for all of the people who would like to take a rare vacation to WDW and either don't have a CC or can't afford to put a deposit down. What happens if someone gets sick and they can't make the ADR? What's the deadline for knowing when they're a no-show? 5 minutes? 10? 15? What if it's 15 and they get there RIGHT after the 15 minute mark? Is promptness now mandatory for vacations? Especially in a park with thousands of guests and the potential for anything to hold you up (for example, with a FP, we'd have time for one ride. we ride but the thing stops to let off a few people. we're then 16 minutes late. oh well!). Also, for all of the hostile posters - do you really think that flaming someone is the best way to discourage them from doing what you dislike? How often does that work (over the internet or IRL)?

 

[LuluLovesDisney]

Regardless of the "morality" (what a laugh, morality in a discussion over reservations), you have the ability to go to a restaurant at WDW, randomly, and are upset because you may not get the table you want because people are allowing themselves options on their vacation? If it's such a problem for you, how about eating at home?

You have to be joking.

When other people's "options" inconvenience others, it's wrong. You can't make a reservation at five resorts to "allow yourself options". I cannot wait for the day Disney requires a credit card #.

"If you don't like it, eat at home"? Those who follow the rules are the ones who *don't* deserve to be there? Interesting how things work in your mind.

And while I agree that there are far greater moral infractions than reservation abuse, morality has a place in ALL areas of life. Morality is what you do when no one else is watching. Morality is everything.