Opinions please...DDP or OOP?

mad_for_mickey

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We have been using DDP on all of our trips for years, but when I crunch the numbers for this year, it just doesn't seem worth it. I am having a hard time letting go of the idea of DDP though...like what if DS12 wants to order the most expensive thing everywhere? Will I be able to relax and be ok with that when we are paying OOP?

I would love any feedback anyone has. We are 3 adults, 1 child, 13 nights. If we don't do DDP, we will buy TIW and refillable mugs. Our table service meals, that would use our 13 credits on DDP, are dinners at Artisit Point, Boma, 'Ohana, Coral Reef, Jiko, and Chef Mickey's, lunch at Biergarten, Whispering Canyon Cate, Sci-fi Dine-in, San Angel Inn, and breakfast at Chef Mickey's.

Any thoughts?
 
We have been using DDP on all of our trips for years, but when I crunch the numbers for this year, it just doesn't seem worth it. I am having a hard time letting go of the idea of DDP though...like what if DS12 wants to order the most expensive thing everywhere? Will I be able to relax and be ok with that when we are paying OOP?

I would love any feedback anyone has. We are 3 adults, 1 child, 13 nights. If we don't do DDP, we will buy TIW and refillable mugs. Our table service meals, that would use our 13 credits on DDP, are dinners at Artisit Point, Boma, 'Ohana, Coral Reef, Jiko, and Chef Mickey's, lunch at Biergarten, Whispering Canyon Cate, Sci-fi Dine-in, San Angel Inn, and breakfast at Chef Mickey's.

Any thoughts?

Even if your son gets the most expensive entree AND dessert every time, you will save more money with the tiw card.
Plus, with such a long trip -- you may cancel some reservations, skip some meals, or find you don't want a cs dessert every day -- which would cancel out savings.

With the ddp, you are paying about $36 per ts meal, and the most expensive ts meal is about $42.
So ddp -- pay $36 per meal, including for a $42 meal.
Or TIW -- pay $34 for the $42 meal.. And $16 for a $20 meal...
 
First of all, if you are not getting free dining then you are paying OOP whether it is for the DDP or day to day on meals. That being said I believe most people paying "OOP" do look at prices and sometimes are:scared1:. If dining is an important part of your vacation then 13 days is a long time to be worried about prices and telling the kids "no".
To get the most value from DDP you must do your TS for dinner. At least though you have 1 child and you will definitely save money on that as 1 dinner pays for the entire day. Calculate the entire cost of DDP versus what you think it will cost you for your TS, CS and snack per day.
We are looking at the QS plan for July but my kids are considered adults (14, 11)
so I am on the fence about that as they eliminated one snack per day so the value is even less. Have a great trip.
 
This is what I would do. Go to the allears menu and looked at the entrees.

Pick out the most expensive thing that you know each of you would order (example I wont eat Prime Rib so even if that is most expensive I wont get it but hubby on the other hand loves prime rib so I would pick that for him)

I also know that DH is not really a dessert person and maybe at most he will get it 1/2 the time (probably not at all)...so just add up what most of your family would eat (picking the most expensive), then if it is close or cheaper to go OP then do it and take and put the cash aside for meals or get a visa giftcard. Then if DS picks most expensive you have already figured that in and it wont be a big deal.
 

First of all, if you are not getting free dining then you are paying OOP whether it is for the DDP or day to day on meals. That being said I believe most people paying "OOP" do look at prices and sometimes are:scared1:. If dining is an important part of your vacation then 13 days is a long time to be worried about prices and telling the kids "no".
To get the most value from DDP you must do your TS for dinner. At least though you have 1 child and you will definitely save money on that as 1 dinner pays for the entire day. Calculate the entire cost of DDP versus what you think it will cost you for your TS, CS and snack per day.
We are looking at the QS plan for July but my kids are considered adults (14, 11)
so I am on the fence about that as they eliminated one snack per day so the value is even less. Have a great trip.

The problem with that logic -- You're assuming that the OP wants 1 TS, 1 CS and 1 snack per day -- a lot of people don't want that formula.

And I don't get the price shock argument --- The TIW card will almost always work out cheaper than the DDP ---
So yes, paying OOP either way ---
The dining plan for 3 adults and 1 child is about $170 per day....

Let's take as an example --
Some above-average priced meals, so nobody can say I am skewing the numbers cheaply--
Let's assume 4 snacks at $3.50 apiece-- That's $14 for snacks (assuming they want 4 snacks!)
Columbia Harbor House for lunch -- Entrees range in price from $8.19 to $10.19 --- So sticking with above average, let's assume an entree price of $9.50.
9.50 X 3 = 28.50. Plus a kids meal -- 5.50 == $34. Plus 3 adult beverages (though that assume they each want their own beverage) == each beverage is between $1.49 and $2.89 -- sticking to our above-average motif -- I'll assume $2.75 per beverage. We are up to 42.25. They offer 3 choices of dessert -- $1.99, 3.59 and 3.59 -- While many people may actually prefer to skip dessert, I'll include all 1 of each-- $51.42, plus tax = $54.76

Now, lets pick an above-average priced place for dinner -- not the most expensive, but above average-- Let's go with Kona Cafe.
Let's assume the 3 adults get the 3 most expensive things on the menu--
They have a prix fixe-- App, entree and dessert for $29.99 -- So 1 adult can get that.
1 adult gets the New York Strip -- the next most expensive item, at $28.99.
1 adult gets the next most expensive item -- Ribeye -- $27.99.
Child gets full meal for $8.59.
Assuming the 2 adults not on the prix fix will share 1 dessert -- The most expensive dessert is $6.49.
Add 3 beverage -- only non-alcoholic covered under the DDP-- It's $3 per soda, so let's say $9.
Total for dinner -- With tax -- $118.26

Now, under the DDP -- They would have paid about $170, and gotten in value -- $187 --- And that was getting above average priced items, at above-average priced restaurants. Only skipped 1 dessert, but actually got an extra included app by ordering the prix fixe menu. Got the 3 most expensive items in the restaurant!
A total savings under the DDP -- of 9%. And it easily could have been much much less.

Now, let's apply the same meals to the TIW card -- snacks and CS would be the same. But 20% discount on dinner -- So dinner would have been $94.60.

So the total using the TIW card -- Would be $163-- A 13% savings!

So getting above-average priced CS meals and snacks -- and getting the most expensive dishes in the restaurant -- The TIW saved more than the DDP.

And of course -- if you got cheaper meals, the TIW would STILL save money, while the DDP would lose money.

So really, the question is -- For 13 nights -- Do you want to prepay approximately $2200, in order to save *possibly* save up to 10%--- and quite easily actually lose money... (If ordered the 3 cheapest items on the menu instead of the 3 most expensive, then would have lost tons of money on the DDP)
Or only prepay $75-$100 total (the cost of the TIW card), and save up to 15% or more? (if you want to order apps-- still save. Want a beer instead of a soda -- still save).
 
Well, I talked it over with the family last night, and I think we're going to try paying cash this trip. I didn't realize that they were feeling some of the constraints of the dining plan. In particular, they are excited about having appetizers, and not necessarily desserts, at table service restaurants, and also getting snacks that are not dining plan snack credits.

So, I might budget a bit more than the dining plan would have cost, just in case we end up being more costly diners than I anticipate.

Thanks everybody for the feedback, it was great to see different perspectives!
 


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