** OPENING DAY PRICING 2017 Pt 2 May/September: Magic, Wonder, Dream, Fantasy **

Wonder 14nt WBPC April 23
Cat 9C 2A/DS 13/DD 6 $2088.43 x 2/1521.99/$1475.13
$7173.98 w OBB, no transfers, no ins, no air
 
My wife booked the following for us:
Fantasy - 6/17/2017 11 night Southern Caribbean
04B - 3A - $11,670.84 with OBB discount
04B - 2A - $$9,305.16 with OBB discount

No prepaid gratuities, insurance, or air.

Yikes!
 
I love Disney but I would have to cruise with Disney off season after I retire. I have been telling DD not to be a teacher so we can travel off season after 2027. We will stick with land vacations for now. Going to HKDL this summer and Tokyo/Shanghai Disneyland in 2017. I don't think I can justify the premium anymore. For my 7-night Alaskan cruise on August 24, 2015, the opening day price I booked for Silver level was USD4400 for 2A cat 5B. It's almost doubled the price for 2017. I can afford the pricing but I just can't justify the extra cost for DCL. Have fun planning! Pixie dust everyone!!
 
I have several here. Some I booked and have the breakdown and some I did not book and have only the total. Use as you see fit:

September 9, 2017 | Disney Magic
7-Night Mediterranean Cruise from Barcelona


CAT 7A (3A) w/OBB w/INS $4225.41 ($1525, $1525, $567; Tax&Port $347.13)
CAT 7A (3A) no OBB no INS $4337.13 ($1680, $1680, $630; Tax&Port $347.13)
CAT 9C (3A) no OBB no INS $3567.13 ($1295, $1295, $630; Tax&Port $347.13)

May 12, 2017 | Disney Wonder
2-Night Baja Cruise - No Sea Day


CAT 9B(2A 1C-11yr) w/OBB, w/INS $1921.55 ($594, $594, $311.04; Tax&Port $298.47)

May 14, 2017| Disney Wonder
3-Night Baja Cruse-Sea Day

CAT 9C (2A 2C-13yr&15yr) w/OBB, no ins; $2692.96

 

I also think the 3 day hold period doesn't help. The price is going up in the next 3 days but how many of those people end up putting down deposits especially on the higher priced sailings? By then the price has increased so much new people don't book. Then a year from now Disney has to offer *GT rates back down to what the opening rate was. Wouldn't it just be easier and better for Disney to price adjust again in 3 or 4 days once they see how many deposits they actually get?

So is that how it works, the lowest it ever gets is back to the opening day price anyway?
 
Ship: DREAM
4-Nights Bahamian June 21, 2017 (Double Dip)
Cat #11B Inside Stateroom
2A 2C $5509.12
Insurance/transfers/air included ? No
OBB ? NO

Ship: DREAM
5-Nights Bahamian June 25, 2017 (Double Dip)
Cat #11B Inside Stateroom
2A 2C $6,052.17
Insurance/transfers/air included ? No
OBB ? NO

Way too expensive...we'll plan something else.
 
No, there isn't always someone to take their place. If that were so, DCL wouldn't need to offer *GT rates, cast member rates, FL resident and military discounts. Rates are this high because there are some people (like you) who are willing to pay their high prices - no matter what. When people stop taking the Disney bait on these high-priced cruises, only then will DCL get the message. Supply and demand is alive and well: Stop the demand, and the prices will drop.
Let's not forget travel agents and interline rates. They seem to suck enough people in at the high prices. Then they sell the remaining rooms at what other cruise lines charge. What I'm paying for our Iceland cruise with an interline rate is probably what I would have paid to do the same cruise on RCI or celebrity. Except on RCI I'd probably be in a verandah not an 11b gty. Unless I decide to do the WBTA I'll probably call and cancel my OBB and get my 250.00 back. I can't see myself ever booking a Disney cruise without a GT or interline rate again. I don't see one cruise over the next 16 months that I would use my OBB on.
 
Let's not forget travel agents and interline rates. They seem to suck enough people in at the high prices. Then they sell the remaining rooms at what other cruise lines charge. What I'm paying for our Iceland cruise with an interline rate is probably what I would have paid to do the same cruise on RCI or celebrity. Except on RCI I'd probably be in a verandah not an 11b gty. Unless I decide to do the WBTA I'll probably call and cancel my OBB and get my 250.00 back. I can't see myself ever booking a Disney cruise without a GT or interline rate again. I don't see one cruise over the next 16 months that I would use my OBB on.

What's an interline rate?
 
MAGIC {blackout dates noted with *}

May 7, 2017 | Disney Magic
6-Night Repo Cruise - San Juan to Port Canaveral

7A 2A $3007.00 no ins/trans yes gratuities
11A 2A 2263.68 no ins/trans/OBB

May 13, 2017 | Disney Magic
15-Night Eastbound Transatlantic from Port Canaveral

5C 2A $5747.14 no ins
7A 2A $5177.14 no ins
7A 2A $5,177.17 no ins/trans/OBB yes gratuities
10C 3059.57
11B 2A $3,392.14 no ins/trans yes OBB
11B 1A $2978.57 No ins/trans/OBB

May 28, 2017 | Disney Magic
7-Night Northern Europe Cruise from Copenhagen

11B 2A $3,291.96 no ins/trans yes OBB

June 4, 2017 | Disney Magic
7-Night Norwegian Fjords Cruise from Copenhagen

10B 2A (1919.38/1919.38) 3838.76 No ins/trans/OBB
10C 2A (1884.38/1884.38) 3768.76 No ins/trans/OBB
11B 2A (1856.38/1856.38) 3712.76 No ins/trans/OBB

June 11, 2017 | Disney Magic
7-Night Northern Europe Cruise from Copenhagen


June 18, 2017 | Disney Magic
10-Night Northern European Cruise from Copenhagen to Dover

June 28, 2017 | Disney Magic
11-Night Norwegian Fjords and Iceland Cruise from Dover

Cat S 3A $59,050.93 No ins/trans/OBB
5B 2A 11,722.82 No ins/trans Yes OBB
10B 2A (3594.31/3594.31) 7188.62 No ins/trans/OBB
10C 2A (3539.31/3539.31) 7078.62 No ins/trans/OBB
11A 2A $6858.62 No ins/trans/OBB
11A 1A $5,871.31 No ins/trans Yes OBB
11B 2A (3374.26/3374.26) 6748.52 No ins/trans/OBB

July 9, 2017 | Disney Magic
12-Night British Isles Cruise from Dover - 11C reported unavailable as of 8:30AM 4/13


Cat 7A 2A $11,178.02 no ins
Cat 9A 2A $10,458.02 no ins
Cat 9B (stateroom 2052) 2A 1C 17 Total cost- $ 9275.43 No insurance, transfers or air OBB
Cat 11B 2A $7002
Cat 11B 2A (3501.01/3501.01) 7530.02 no trans/OBB yes ins ($528)
Cat 10B 2A (4153.81/4153.81) 8307.62 no trans/OBB yes ins
Cat 10C 2A (4089.01/4089.01) 8178.02 no trans/OBB yes ins

July 21, 2017 | Disney Magic
7-Night Repo Cruise - Dover to Barcelona


July 28, 2017 | Disney Magic
10-Night Mediterranean Cruise from Barcelona

August 7, 2017 | Disney Magic
5-Night Mediterranean Cruise from Barcelona

August 12, 2017 | Disney Magic
7-Night Mediterranean Cruise from Barcelona

August 19, 2017 | Disney Magic
7-Night Mediterranean Cruise from Barcelona

August 26, 2017 | Disney Magic
7-Night Mediterranean Cruise from Barcelona

September 2, 2017 | Disney Magic w/ Cannes instead of Villefrache
7-Night Mediterranean Cruise from Barcelona


September 9, 2017 | Disney Magic
7-Night Mediterranean Cruise from Barcelona

June 18 Disney Magic 10 night Northern Europe
2A 1c category 11b 8600
 
Very disappointing indeed - you would have thought they could calculate that prices are way to high for many people
 
I need to get more familiar with my categories. I think our price would be cheaper for the inside deluxe stateroom (category 11, I think?)

I don't think Western Caribbean jumps until about 100 days from sailing, since there are so many of them. However, there are fewer this year than previous, because of additional Southern Caribbean. The following website may help you with historical pricing. I think you would be looking for a 7 night Western Caribbean Itinerary C. It lists all of the room types/categories with descriptions. For more info on the categories, go to the DCL website, "Ships & Staterooms", and "Disney Fantasy Staterooms". It's kind of confusing, but once you start looking at it more, you start to understand it.

https://touringplans.com/disney-cruise-line/tools/fare-tracker
 
Wonder
5nt San Diego to Vancouver May 17/17
Cat 10A 2A 1C(1) w/OBB no/INS $2682.93 [900/900/358.65 port/taxes $524.28]
 
Ouch...our quotes came through.

Ship: Fantasy
11-Nights Southern Caribbean June 17, 2017
Cat V- Concierge Family Stateroom
2A 2C -$24,964.14 ($7,755.00/$7,755.00/$3,769.92/$3,769.92)
Insurance/transfers/air included ? Ins included $1,401.18
OBB ? NO

Ship: Fantasy
11-Nights Southern Caribbean June 17, 2017
Cat 4a- Deluxe Family Stateroom
2A 2C -$15,450.24 (didn't get breakdown)
Insurance/transfers/air included ? No (but $1179.84 to add insurance)
OBB ? NO

Ship: Fantasy
10-Nights Southern Caribbean June 28, 2017
Cat V- Concierge Family Stateroom
2A 2C - $22,326.48 (didn't get breakdown)
Insurance/transfers/air included ? No (insurance add on $1362.36)
OBB ? NO


Ship: Fantasy
10-Nights Southern Caribbean June 28, 2017
Cat 4a- Deluxe Family Stateroom
2A 2C -Cat 4 A - $14,768.08 (didn't get breakdown)
Insurance/transfers/air included ? No
OBB ? NO

Hubby is saying NO to these. :( So sad. I've been waiting on a Southern itinerary during the summer since we have school aged kiddos. We've been considering trying Norwegian, but they don't have anything comparable at the moment. sigh.
 
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Very disappointing indeed - you would have thought they could calculate that prices are way to high for many people[/QUOTE

I think the Meds will eventually drop, because it's the least safe of DCL's itineraries. Then northern European. Then British Isles. Alaska and Caribbean will remain high until the safety issues in Europe are resolved. To confirm, I'd still go on any of these itineraries. But there are lots of folks who don't want to go anywhere near Europe's terrorism issues right now. They may make the deposits today and tomorrow, but they are going to cancel before the PIF if there continues to be issues there.
 
I don't think Western Caribbean jumps until about 100 days from sailing, since there are so many of them. However, there are fewer this year than previous, because of additional Southern Caribbean. The following website may help you with historical pricing. I think you would be looking for a 7 night Western Caribbean Itinerary C. It lists all of the room types/categories with descriptions. For more info on the categories, go to the DCL website, "Ships & Staterooms", and "Disney Fantasy Staterooms". It's kind of confusing, but once you start looking at it more, you start to understand it.

https://touringplans.com/disney-cruise-line/tools/fare-tracker

How do I find out which itinerary I'm looking at? We're looking at Fantasy eastern Caribbean 7-night that goes to the Virgin Islands. Is that itinerary A, B, C, or D?
 

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