One of the mysteries of Walt Disney World...

Neither one is complicated.

Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of families that have been completely overwhelmed by a "vacation" to Disney World. There is a reason that an entire industry is based around the sole act of PLANNING a trip to Disney World. This board (and that industry) would not exist if Disney was nothing more than a simple, 'fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants, no-planning-required' destination for most people (no doubt for some it is). It's all relative, but most people (who have been to Disney World) will agree there are few family vacations that require the level of planning that a Disney vacation requires.
 
oasispaul said:
Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of families that have been completely overwhelmed by a "vacation" to Disney World. There is a reason that an entire industry is based around the sole act of PLANNING a trip to Disney World. This board (and that industry) would not exist if Disney was nothing more than a simple, 'fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants, no-planning-required' destination for most people (no doubt for some it is). It's all relative, but most people (who have been to Disney World) will agree there are few family vacations that require the level of planning that a Disney vacation requires.

I've been there many times and didn't plan too much. I don't see what is so overwhelming.
 

Not a big mystery to me.

I do both. I get a fp then do the standby line. In my experience the standby line is rarely correct. Every time I've ridden TSM and the standby says 50 minutes, it's been off by 15 minutes.

Next, I don't really want a mickey bar or visit the shops. visiting the shops imo is about as boring as all get out for me. I don't buy tons of junk while I'm on vacation and sorry most of the stuff to me is just high priced junk from china. I visit them when I go to dtd and that's enough.

Lastly,
I don't rate my vacation by the number of rides we do. Now that my kids are older they really don't get whiny while waiting in ride, we actually have fun. Disney's cues are part of the fun for us so we tend to talk, laugh, take pictures.

Not "high priced junk from China" Almost never has anyone gotten thru TSM in 15 min when the standby line reads 50 min. No ice cream?? What fun you sound like.
 
Not "high priced junk from China" Almost never has anyone gotten thru TSM in 15 min when the standby line reads 50 min. No ice cream?? What fun you sound like.

I think she means she got through in 35 minutes instead of 50 (off by 15 minutes).

Some people are on diets/healthy eating plans or don't care to spend a lot of money on food. That's cool.

But I absolutely agree with you about the shops. They're not all about about buying stuff. If the PP likes inching past the theming in the lines, I wonder if they've ever wandered into the shops and taken a good look at the theming there? Has the PP ever noticed, for instance, that the big shop on Main Street has a mural in the back wall that's identical to the facade out front? Have they looked at the names on the windows, and talked to cast members?

I get that it could be an important ride, and you have FPs for something else. I also get the "riding back to back" plan. It's a great idea when the lines aren't terribly long. And if you're good at judging the "real length" of the lines, then that's awesome. But sometimes lines are even longer than posted, and I did feel sorry for some of the bored tired people we ran past in the FP line. A few of them were sitting on the ground, with their heads in their hands!

Another thing... My husband suggested that an Argentinian tour group we spotted in a 60 minute line may have been parked in the standby line to keep them out of trouble while their guide had a break. So that's another reason, I suppose!
 
In my experience (and I've ridden BTMRR many times because it was one of the few "big" rides my 5 year old was tall enough for), the line moves faster than the posted wait time. We've breezed through that line many times!

I agree, too, with the fact that we could be holding a fast pass for something else. I'd much rather wait 30 or 40 minutes for BTMRR than 90 for Peter Pan, Dumbo or Space Mountain. So, we'll grab the fast passes for those rides first.

To each their own. . .
 
Another one here that doesn't really care much about what other's do, but I do agree that those that are misinformed abot FP's prolly visited US/IOC before hand and didn't want to pay for the Express Pass tix....
 
I think she means she got through in 35 minutes instead of 50 (off by 15 minutes).

Some people are on diets/healthy eating plans or don't care to spend a lot of money on food. That's cool.

But I absolutely agree with you about the shops. They're not all about about buying stuff. If the PP likes inching past the theming in the lines, I wonder if they've ever wandered into the shops and taken a good look at the theming there? Has the PP ever noticed, for instance, that the big shop on Main Street has a mural in the back wall that's identical to the facade out front? Have they looked at the names on the windows, and talked to cast members?

I get that it could be an important ride, and you have FPs for something else. I also get the "riding back to back" plan. It's a great idea when the lines aren't terribly long. And if you're good at judging the "real length" of the lines, then that's awesome. But sometimes lines are even longer than posted, and I did feel sorry for some of the bored tired people we ran past in the FP line. A few of them were sitting on the ground, with their heads in their hands!

Another thing... My husband suggested that an Argentinian tour group we spotted in a 60 minute line may have been parked in the standby line to keep them out of trouble while their guide had a break. So that's another reason, I suppose!

:rotfl2::thumbsup2
 
Not "high priced junk from China" Almost never has anyone gotten thru TSM in 15 min when the standby line reads 50 min. No ice cream?? What fun you sound like.

I didn't say I got through in 15 mins, I said it was OFF by 15 minutes. Meaning if the standby line says 50 minutes we're usually on the ride and through the cue in 35 minutes.

We don't eat ice cream and you some how correlate this with no fun. Must be the dis type of math.
But then it doesn't matter what I "sound" like to you, to the people who are actually important to me, they're happy.
 
I say let all the people out there that do no do their research on how that fast pass works and that it does not cost extra stay in the dark about that. That way the rest of us can get on the rides faster:woohoo:
 
I didn't say I got through in 15 mins, I said it was OFF by 15 minutes. Meaning if the standby line says 50 minutes we're usually on the ride and through the cue in 35 minutes.

We don't eat ice cream and you some how correlate this with no fun. Must be the dis type of math.
But then it doesn't matter what I "sound" like to you, to the people who are actually important to me, they're happy.

My bad on the 50 vs 15 min thing.Someone else had kindly corrected me.;) Glad the people important to you are happy.You sure don't have much of a sense of humor though for everyone being so "happy". :rolleyes1
 
You're obviously not a world traveler, it doesn't cost that much to go to Disney!

Trip for four adults to WDW = ~$6,000.

Trip for four adults to Rome, Italy = ~$11,000.

Seeing the real Rome as opposed to "Italy" in Epcot = priceless!
 
There are two reasons why I don't use FP...

1. When I approach a ride, I want to ride it then and not have to come back for it later.
2. After I read about the FP system, I would rather not deal with the stress of it. I would like to be laid back when it comes to DW and not have to deal with frustration.:cool1:
 














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