One Disneylander's View of First Trip to WDW (long)

Thanks for this, we are from MO and have only ever been to DL, we actually were going to do a short trip to WDW earlier this month just to experience halloween time because the kids don't get out of school except for a long weekend and we drive to CA but we had to cancel, but WDW freaks me out!! I was online right at my mark for ADR and could still only get a 9pm dinner reservation for Be Our Guest which was the only ADR I cared about getting! And we just love Cali! Even thought FL is closer we just love the weather and everything in California so we will be making our 3rd trip next summer and I can't wait!!

If you do decide to go to WDW in the future (and you should at least once, it's so different), and don't get the reservations you won't right away, don't give up. People change their plans and cancel their ADR's. Though it's a little time consuming, I have managed to pick up a few hard to get or last minute ADR's by checking a dozen times daily. I'm a local passholder. The ADR times you wanted were likely booked before your window opened by those with a longer hotel stay.
 
Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in that if you're used to staying onsite at DL (and paying those prices), then some of the "closer" hotels in WDW may be in your budget. Of course you can only be close to one park (either Magic Kingdom or Epcot), but it's still better than having to take a bus everywhere. You can also wheel a stroller straight on to the monorail.

I was thinking the same exact thing. Had this poster stayed at a monorail hotel the experience IMHO would have been much different. We stayed at the Polynesian and will never stay anywhere else. We even prefer it over all the others. Monorail both directions and dead on view of the castle at night. Popping over to MK in 10 minutes on a boat or monorail. Priceless.
 
We just got back from WDW last week and compared to WDW in September the weather was SOOOO much better. But I totally agree that California wins for weather any day.
I love both DL and WDW and I think its good to experience both. I love them both for different reasons. My first DL trip was after a completely magical WDW trip and DL didn't feel the same to me, but as time passed I have so many happy DL memories and I can't wait to go back. Being at WDW this September was not as magical, more kids to keep up with, extra friends to please, over planning on my part when our group is too laid back for that, plus the miserable heat and humidity made me not enjoy that trip as much. (Buses are not my favorite thing but DH loves them). Returning in October, just DH and I without a real plan and enjoying Food and Wine Festival made it great again. Again I'm excited to take my friends to DL and share that experience as they have never been before.
OP I hope you think back upon your WDW and remember things pleasantly. Nothing says you have to love WDW though and DL may suit you better. I'm glad to live about half way between the 2 so I get to love both ;-)
 
I was thinking the same exact thing. Had this poster stayed at a monorail hotel the experience IMHO would have been much different. We stayed at the Polynesian and will never stay anywhere else. We even prefer it over all the others. Monorail both directions and dead on view of the castle at night. Popping over to MK in 10 minutes on a boat or monorail. Priceless.

My DH would likely disagree. We typically stay at the GCH, so are spoiled by the close proximity to the parks. We went to WDW this past spring and did stay at the Poly, so yes, monorail/boat to MK, short walk to the TTC to get the monorail to Epcot. (As an aside: DH was disappointed to find that the monorails take you only to 2 of the 4 parks. Still had to take the bus to DHS, AK, DTD and the water parks--I knew that the monorail was only to two parks, but found it amusing just how much this bothered DH) In general though, just having to take ANY form of transportation to get to and from the parks, was tiring. Add in the heat and humidity (it was in the 90's in mid April!) and our patience was wearing thin. While the boat ride or monorail ride itself would be quick, you still have to wait for one to come. We booked our trip 3 months in advance, which made getting ADR's to some places challenging. I mean, I could get reservations at most places, but I'm not willing to dine at 9pm.

At DLR, we take advantage of EMH nearly daily, and head back to our room in the early afternoon for a nap & pool time. Sometimes we head back to the park to eat dinner. We rarely book ADR's-maybe one for the entire week? We felt that the distances traveled at WDW made it difficult to do this sort of touring. So at least for our family, we'll be sticking to DLR for now. I still think it would be worthwhile to go back when the kids are closer to age 10 (they're 6 right now), mainly to do a split visit with Universal.

There were a couple of things DH loved at WDW: Dole whips on a daily basis at the Poly, Magic Bands (he loved that we could use it as our room key/park ticket/Fastpass ticket/charging privileges for purchases/PhotoPass card), seeing the Country Bear Jamboree -a childhood fave of his that is no longer at DL, riding on Expedition Everest 2x in a row on our AK day, and FP+ (but he wasn't the one obsessing about touring plans and need for booking of FP when the booking window opened- at least staying onsite gave us an advantage with that).

This latest trip we had to DLR, found us with hot weather and humidity (ok, not Florida level, but certainly not normal levels of humidity for So Cal--both DH and I grew up in So Cal) and crowds which certainly made our midday breaks a necessary thing for us. The weather affected us so much, that we just didn't even wanted to make an effort to walk to Trader Sam's for a drink!
 

As a WDW vet who made a recent trip to DLR in May (and is planning another one for January), I agree with many of OP's points.

DLR does have some distinct advantages over WDW, such as everything in close proximity and generally better weather.

I also think that from purely a ride attraction standpoint, DLR is somewhat better. I totally agree that Indiana Jones is way better than Dinosaur (and that Dinoland, in general, is an eyesore). Same can be said for Grizzly River Run versus Kali River Rapids and Radiator Springs Racers versus Test Track. DLR also has a much better Space Mountain as well as a much longer version of Pirates. That being said, I like Expedition Everest a lot more than Matterhorn and Rock & Roller Coaster slightly more than California Screamin. I also think the WDW version of Splash Mountain is slightly better.

Overall, we still somewhat prefer WDW over DLR overall because, to US, a Disney vacation is a lot more than just rides. On vacation, we want a balance of fun and relaxation and, for us, there's no place that does this better than WDW. Along those lines, we sort of view WDW as a resort that happens to include theme parks. We usually spend about half of a typical WDW day in the parks, choosing to spend the rest of the time in resorts & restaurants (we like to do split stays different resorts and usually eat two table service meals per day). In this regard, the variety and immersivity of WDW is unsurpassed.

WDW also has several attractions that are lacking a DLR counterpart such as World Showcase, Kilimanjaro Safaris (not to mention the uniqueness of Animal Kingdom park in general), as well as two fantastic water parks (in all fairness, WDW lacks Cars Land, which we absolutely love). Plus, we're suckers for Magical Express (love being immersed in Disney the minute we step off of the plane).
 
Finally, I would note that views about how the DLR experience beats the WDW experience are not welcome on the WDW sections of the DIS. Not at all. I tried to write a similar post for future reference, but I was repeatedly shouted down for having made mistakes in how I planned the WDW trip (which I worked on obsessively for a year). For the WDW Kool-Aid drinkers on the TPAS board, it is impossible for WDW to fail -- if you didn't like something, it is your own fault for insufficient planning or for having expectations that are too high. But count me among those who agree that you get a better overall experience at DLR than you do at WDW.

I've also been gone from the boards for most of the year. (This was the year we were to move to L.A., then life intervened and we're still in Chicago, alas...) In 2013, I had the same experience of being shouted down in my and my partner's first-time WDW trip report on the WDW boards. We experienced all the same things discussed here, and it just seemed to me that WDW fans sometimes have trouble accepting that in the mirror universe of Disney parks on the West Coast, some (or many) things could actually be done better than they are in Florida. Then again, WDW has marketed the whole "Walt improved upon Disneyland by building Disney World" meme for so long, it's no one's fault for believing it if they haven't experienced DLR for themselves. And the WDW folks have just as intense and helpful a knowledge of WDW as folks to on the DLR side of things.

That said, we're throwing caution to the wind and planning an early 2016 WDW trip, also--as others have said--in response to the massive impact that Star Wars construction will have on Disneyland. My partner put his foot down and said without Fantasmic!, there's no reason to go to Anaheim. So we're hoping to plan/do WDW differently than we did last time and hope for a better outcome. There's a lot to like at WDW, but you have to guard against comparisons. And it's not easy...
 
If you do decide to go to WDW in the future (and you should at least once, it's so different), and don't get the reservations you won't right away, don't give up. People change their plans and cancel their ADR's. Though it's a little time consuming, I have managed to pick up a few hard to get or last minute ADR's by checking a dozen times daily. I'm a local passholder. The ADR times you wanted were likely booked before your window opened by those with a longer hotel stay.

A tip I learned was to try for last-minute ADRs within 48 hours of your desired seating time, since people who can't use their ADRs at the last minute have to cancel at lerast 24 hours in advance to avoid being charged the penalty fee. So, the day before can turn up unexpected ADRs for popular restaurants, as people who can't use their reservations hurry to cancel them in time. I haven't tried this yet, but I'd love to know how well it works.
 
There are a fair number of ADR's cancelled 1-2 days before. A brief glance just now at reservations for two days from now compared to two or four weeks shows a significantly higher amount of open reservations for two days from now, especially at Hollywood Studios. However, I would not count on last minute ADR's for a place you defintely want to eat at during a trip. I would keep checking reguarly for hard to get ADR's and if something opens up, you have to book it immediately. More than once I did start booking immediately but wasn't fast enough, and the reservation was taken by someone else.
 
Thank you so much for the report. We are planning a WDW trip (Port Orleans French Quarter) for May and these reflections are very helpful. I am interested to see WDW (for the first time in 18 years!), but really love my home park in California. We went to DLP in 2013 and I became that much more of a proponent of DLR! I really appreciate hearing about WDW from a DLR vet. Thanks again for putting together a report.

I'm wondering what you think is the minimum amount of time you could get away with for a trip to WDW with two 11-year olds. We go to DLR every year so we see this as kind of an "add-on" trip as we are taking advantage of a hop over from a Texas visit. We currently have 4 days at WDW and 2 days at Universal planned, but I am concerned that is too short. I could change my trip up a bit but it would cost a fair amount to do so. I would love to know your thoughts.
 
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Thank you for your thoughts. We just got back from DL and was considering WDW next. We actually found all the walking at DL quite exhausting, and we stayed at GCH for half of our stay. We did 10 days total. We don't like having to deal with public transport on vacation. We either prefer an easy walk or hire car (Can we do a hire car at WDW and just pay to park onsite?) is this recommended? WDW seems a bit overwhelming at the moment especially I would like to go on a Disney Cruise whilst I am there and it would be done on the same trip since we will be coming from Australia..
 
I go to WDW and DL each year, but WDW more often because I live on the east coast. I enjoy both experiences. But they are very different. At WDW, perhaps you would have been happier staying at one of the deluxes, so you could walk to one of the parks. (with available discounts, they should not cost more than one of the DL onsite hotels). But of course, at DL, you walk to both parks, not one of the 2 parks with hotels in walking distance, the other 2 parks don't even have hotels in easy walking distance (I am leaving out the path to the Studios,from the BW area). I love walking to the 2 DL parks, no busses. At WDW, I drive to the parks, because I dislike the busses and I also can't get my son's heavy WC on and off the bus myself. (we do park in the handicapped section, so that does make that easy, and at WDW parking is free at the resort and the parks for hotel guests, unlike DL).

Part of the WDW experience, is enjoying your resort. Because the hotels themselves are interesting. I have stayed at many of them at WDW, and even the Value resorts are interesting to see, especially after dark. Art of Animation is one that I enjoy, walking around in the evening. You see many families having fun, sitting outside, even playing cards and board games by the pool. Maybe watching movies in the evening outside each night, etc.

The other thing about WDW is that the WEATHER is something that is a key factor in planning most of the year. I was at WDW Oct 20-27 this year. From 1-5 pm, it was pretty uncomfortable. Going to the parks from opening to closing should be avoided, very hot and very crowded, ironically. We did park opening until about 2 pm. Sometimes we returned at night, sometimes we rested, took a swim, and relaxed at the resort.

And at the parks, it is less about how many major E ticket rides there are, and more about balancing rides with shows, interesting restaurants, and other experiences. My family was a ride family when the kids were on our trips. But now I take time to see the movie previews, shows, and we ride things that we used to skip. We take side trips to visit other onsite resort hotels, and eat meals there as well. (Like Whispering Canyon at WL, Beaches & Cream at Beach club). We walk the Boardwalk area at night. At WDW, it is more than just the parks.

That said, I adore DL. We return there in February. We went to DL last year Dec 31-Jan 5, so we caught the DL holiday offerings. I love the seasonal overlays there, Small World Holiday alone is worth the trip. Carsland is amazing and I love just hanging out at the Cozy Cone with a snack in the evening. I appreciate the more laid back guests at DL resort vs. the frantic pace of WDW. Of course, many rides are better at DL, but others are better at WDW. I am glad not all the rides are "better" at one, because it makes it easier for me to justify going to both coasts each year, haha.

And once we also did not get to MK until day 3 or 4, and it was a mistake. It was like, I was anxious until I saw that castle! So I try to get there on the day after we arrive, at park opening.
 
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Please allow me to give some perspective about WDW as a lifetime Disney Worlder. I am not a Disney World apologist or a homer. In fact, while I love Disney, I would probably spend my WDW trip money on trips to Europe if I didn't have young kids. I am saying this to demonstrate that I am not one of those fans that thinks that WDW is perfect and can do no wrong, or that there couldn't possibly be any place on Earth that could be better. However, as my family has always been fanatical about WDW and so I have been going for over 30 years.

First, I completely understand the gripes that the OP has towards Disney. The bus rides are long and you feel like you waste a lot of time traveling from resort to park. However, the positive part is that this allows you to stay on Disney property with excellent Disney theming in a range of affordable hotels. At other Disney parks around the world, you will pay a small fortune to stay on site. So a longer commute is the trade off.

Rides. If you are only interested in rides, then WDW is inferior because the rides are more spread out. You only have a handful in EPCOT, Animal Kingdom, and Hollywood Studios. The magic of these parks is not the rides. These parks are supposed to be focused on the immersive theming. You are supposed to take your time and explore the shops, crafts, shows and music of the World Showcase and hopefully make an ADR for dinner or lunch and grab a bite at a really good counter service for the other. Animal Kingdom should also be a day of exploring, not just a day of thrill rides. Look around at the posters and look at the props. The theming is top notch. Dinoland is cheesy, but the rest of the park makes up for it. There are many gems in AK, not just Everest. The shows there are really good and the food is unique. I will concede that HS is really weak right now. It has lost its identity. It isn't exactly a Studio park anymore, but it can't find its new personality. I hope it will get better when the Star Wars expansion opens up.

Food. There is a lot of mediocre food in WDW. You are absolutely correct in that the menus at most counter service restaurants is extremely limited and the burgers are boring. You have to research the restaurants to find more interesting options. You'll still be limited, but I've found that it is much more enjoyable to change up the type of cuisine each meal, even of it does require some work on the front end, than to just walk up to any old counter service and accept a subpar burger or chicken tenders. My advice, stay away from all restaurants in Fantasyland and Tomorrowland in MK, Dinoland in AK, and Future world in EPCOT (except the Land pavilion food court).
 
I am reading all of these with extreme interest and appreciate the OPs view on WDW. I am a lifelong Disneylander and WDW overwhelms me! And it seems like if you make a wrong decision, this can really effect your trip. Like if you pick a wrong resort or something, you can end up miserable. I am not keen on the idea of buses and such, but realize I either need to use them or my own vehicle for at least some of the parks.

For a Disneyland veteran, do you think it makes more sense to stay at a resort close to MK or Epcot? Seems like you kinda have to choose?
 
I am reading all of these with extreme interest and appreciate the OPs view on WDW. I am a lifelong Disneylander and WDW overwhelms me! And it seems like if you make a wrong decision, this can really effect your trip. Like if you pick a wrong resort or something, you can end up miserable. I am not keen on the idea of buses and such, but realize I either need to use them or my own vehicle for at least some of the parks.

For a Disneyland veteran, do you think it makes more sense to stay at a resort close to MK or Epcot? Seems like you kinda have to choose?


That really depends on where you intend to spend the most park time.

I think more than anything, you want to choose a resort with a reputation of having good bus service. Don't assume that the more expensive resorts have the best bus service. I love the bus service at the Pop Century. They have one waiting area, and everyone queues up pretty nicely. No dashing for the doors at the last minute. And there are no internal bus drops, so when the bus comes, it's empty and ready to be filled.
 
That really depends on where you intend to spend the most park time.

I think more than anything, you want to choose a resort with a reputation of having good bus service. Don't assume that the more expensive resorts have the best bus service. I love the bus service at the Pop Century. They have one waiting area, and everyone queues up pretty nicely. No dashing for the doors at the last minute. And there are no internal bus drops, so when the bus comes, it's empty and ready to be filled.

Ah, very interesting! I didn't know that price perhaps doesn't correlate to better bus service. I guess what I mean about Epcot vs MK is that as a DL person going to WDW, am I going to want to spend more time at Epcot or MK? I am thinking Epcot, since we don't have kids and we enjoy the idea of Epcot more. But we've never been. So it's hard to know.
 
Ah, very interesting! I didn't know that price perhaps doesn't correlate to better bus service. I guess what I mean about Epcot vs MK is that as a DL person going to WDW, am I going to want to spend more time at Epcot or MK? I am thinking Epcot, since we don't have kids and we enjoy the idea of Epcot more. But we've never been. So it's hard to know.


Many would strongly suggest more Epcot time. We're just not huge Epcot people :duck: so we like to spend far more time in the MK. But we're more attraction focused, and that's just not what Epcot is about. When are you going? I do know Soarin is going to be down for a while early next year. But you might not care since DL has the superior version right now, and it doesn't have the long waits.

The bad part for people like you is that you're better off planning your park days in advance (before you get a chance to get a feel for the parks and know where you want to spend your time).
 
What price does equate to at the WDW resorts is amenities at the bus stops. The value resorts have uncovered bus queues and no benches. The mods and deluxes have covered waiting areas with benches. But in reality, I prefer the resorts with one stop so you don't have to make numerous stops within the complex. Of course, we also like to get a preferred room at those places and request a building close to the bus stop so we don't have a long walk at the end of the night.
 
Many would strongly suggest more Epcot time. We're just not huge Epcot people :duck: so we like to spend far more time in the MK. But we're more attraction focused, and that's just not what Epcot is about. When are you going? I do know Soarin is going to be down for a while early next year. But you might not care since DL has the superior version right now, and it doesn't have the long waits.

The bad part for people like you is that you're better off planning your park days in advance (before you get a chance to get a feel for the parks and know where you want to spend your time).

Yeah, it is just hard to get a feel for what we are going to like. I am sure we won't need much time in DHS. AK seems like a half day park as well (at least until Avatar opens). Epcot is the park that truly has something different from DL and it sounds like we would enjoy the pavilions and such. And we are foodies and enjoy wine/cocktails. So Epcot sounds great to us. So I am leaning towards a resort that is waking to Epcot. But then I get nervous and think maybe we will really enjoy MK since it is quite different from DL.

My husband is doing a sabbatical in Fall of 2016, so we are going to be very flexible in when we can go. There are some dates we have to work around his research, but overall I can pick from lots of dates from August to December.
 
Yeah, it is just hard to get a feel for what we are going to like. I am sure we won't need much time in DHS. AK seems like a half day park as well (at least until Avatar opens). Epcot is the park that truly has something different from DL and it sounds like we would enjoy the pavilions and such. And we are foodies and enjoy wine/cocktails. So Epcot sounds great to us. So I am leaning towards a resort that is waking to Epcot. But then I get nervous and think maybe we will really enjoy MK since it is quite different from DL.

My husband is doing a sabbatical in Fall of 2016, so we are going to be very flexible in when we can go. There are some dates we have to work around his research, but overall I can pick from lots of dates from August to December.


You probably will indeed want to spend a lot of time at Epcot, especially if you go during the food and wine festival. I know some who stay in the area like to finish every night there for dinner.

You might want to just ask when it's time to schedule FPs which ones are the hardest to get, and pin down several days to schedule those. Then schedule the other days with the idea that you will ditch those FPs if you decide you prefer to be in a different park that day.
 
Ah, very interesting! I didn't know that price perhaps doesn't correlate to better bus service. I guess what I mean about Epcot vs MK is that as a DL person going to WDW, am I going to want to spend more time at Epcot or MK? I am thinking Epcot, since we don't have kids and we enjoy the idea of Epcot more. But we've never been. So it's hard to know.

The counter question would be: do you want to experience more of what is unique to WDW or are you going to need to immerse yourself in a Disneylandesque experience? If I were going to Disneyland as an easterner that has been to WDW many times, I would spend more time at California Adventure because of its uniqueness.
And vice versa, if I were from the west and had visited DL many times, I would probably spend more time at EPCOT and Animal Kingdom because they are unique to WDW.
 








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