OKW members you are going to love this!

[Uncleromulus]

Hard to imagine 11 teens keeping quiet no matter where they are---

 

[sumessefui]

nclings, I concur.

 

[burnsoc]

I was at the parks during senior week this year and it was great, except for the teenagers. I guess I'm getting older, because I couldn't stand the manners on these kids. The problem is that you don't notice the good kids because they fit in with everybody else. Those annoying kids stick out like sore thumbs. Everything from the foul language to the mocking of CM's speech in the WS at Epcot was getting me angry. They seem to feel bravest when they're in a large pack. I think they were more than a little surprised when I asked them to watch their language, and some of them of them actually looked embarrassed.

 

[PamOKW]

This may be belaboring the point, but everyone points out how OKW is not a hotel-like atmosphere. I agree. It is more like a condo. Loud noise and overcrowded units will be a problem for the immediate neighbors and more than two cars per unit eats up the parking. However, larger groups would be less noticeable to most people. Even the entrance doors to the units and the balconies are angled so that you don't generally see who is coming and going. You may "hear" things but you don't necessarily see the people.

If you have a large group at the other WDW DVC units, people going up and down the halls, banging doors shut, crowding the elevators, partying on the balcony, etc., etc. has a more immediate impact on far more rooms. People hanging off the balconies at BWV overlooking the pool could even effect those who are using the pools.

 

[KNWVIKING]

If the kids in that room were bad it wouldn't make a difference if there were 6,8 or 11 of them. All it takes to ruin someone else's vacation is one rude,loud,obnoxius neighbor.

As for stereotyping(sp) all kids,that is wrong but we overheard another father speaking at my son's college during orientation that really summed up how we feel. He stated something to the effect that in the past the rude,spoiled,brat child stood out like a sore thumb. Now days it's the polite child that stands out in the crowd. I've done a lot of dumb things in my life but one of them wasn't raising bad kids,(actually I think DW gets most of the credit). I always appriciated the compliments people gave us about how well behaved our kids were but never really gave it much thought until years later when I heard the other fathers statement. Others noticed their behavior because they were the exception,not the norm.

 

[chris1gill]

Boy I agree with some of the other posters, not all teens are bad... I was actually a good teen, sure we had some fun, but we weren't really roudy in the bad sense of the word... So, I hope the kids are having fun, keeping it clean & not disturbing their neighbors *TOO* much... If they were THAT bad, they'd have already been asked to leave... As for 11 in a 2 bedroom, as long as they aren't destroying the room that's fine, if they do destroy the room, the grandparents will have to pay for the damage...

Oh, and I SINCERELY doubt these kids are spending any time at all in the room... Remember when you were that age? Weren't you like Park Commando's? And, they didn't even have Disney Quest back then... I bet these kids are busy doing other things than hanging around OKW.... I'll give them the benefit of the doubt & say they're good kids!

 

[Doctor P]

This is exactly the sort of thing that the occupancy limits are designed to avoid. I would also be concerned about the possibility of a large number of vehicles with a party of this size and type (even with 3 to a vehicle, that would be four vehicles for a single 2BR unit). I hope the group is well behaved, that there are no problems, and that this is not a widespread kind of thing (IMHO, once is one time too many, but I don't want to refuel that debate!! )

 

[KNWVIKING]

DoctorP...

OT but just curious, do the 2br and/or GV come with more then one parking place ? Seems they should because of the likelyhood of more adults.

 

[Richyams]

THere is no assigned parking. You can pretty much get as many parking permits as you wish. I have only had an issue with parking once, when I was in building 51.

 

[robinb]

Originally posted by chris1gill
Oh, and I SINCERELY doubt these kids are spending any time at all in the room...

Unless they smuggle a keg onto the porch . I remember what I was like at that age. Not a pretty sight .

 

[PamOKW]

if they do destroy the room, the grandparents will have to pay for the damage

I'm beginning to think this is also swept under the rug just like the occupancy limits. I don't think the occupant of the room is charged. The exception might be if furniture were removed or the television stolen, washer kicked over, etc., etc. Major, major damage.

But, if blinds are broken, couch springs strained, carpets stained, food crusted on furniture, etc. I don't think any charges are levied to the individual. They are added into the housekeeping and maintenance bills that we all pay and delay people being able to get into the rooms.

I would also be curious what the liability to DVC would be if one of the kids were injured. More than once a student has fallen from a balcony (even at WDW) and been injured or killed. What are the responsibilities of DVC as a whole allowing minors to use rooms unsupervised? Even if some of them are over 19, if alcohol were involved would be at additional risk?

 

[RweTHEREyet]

I gotta say that a lot of folks here have jumped to conclusions that these teens are going to be a rowdy raucous beer-drinking bunch. As far as we know, this could be a bunch of real nerdy types and no one will even know that they are there. Mind you, I said "could be".

I personally would not want the responsibility of knowing that a group this age was there unchaperoned and using my membership.

I am already known down there as the "cooler" lady because of the incident with our electric cooler, wouldn't want any other label to get attached to my name. The CM's down there do remember who people are, trust me.

 

[miksicnarf]

Are there any age restrictions on minors staying at DVC resorts w/o an adult?

 

[Cris]

there just has to be an 18 year old to check in. Beer please, they are probably having jack and coke

 

[Allan]

Are there any age restrictions on minors staying at DVC resorts w/o an adult?

Last June I booked a room for 5 nights at VB and also one night at Allstar Sports as a graduation gift for my 17 year old son and 2 friends. Allstar Sports made me fax a letter with my signature assuming complete liability for the room being occupied by a minor but VB insisted it was no problem.

 

[vacationman]

I gotta say that a lot of folks here have jumped to conclusions that these teens are going to be a rowdy raucous beer-drinking bunch. As far as we know, this could be a bunch of real nerdy types and no one will even know that they are there.

I hope that the above quote was not intended to describe the only two options for teens. Not drinking beer does not mean that "nerd" is the only other option.

There are many teens who are smart, cool, mannered and well behaved yet who do not drink. If these teens fit that description, then I wish them the best at OKW. If it turns into an Animal House, then I hope they get arrested, thrown out of OKW and the member's membership revoked.

 

[robinb]

Nick and Ann, maybe you should send each other PMs or emails where you can discuss your failure to communicate in private.

 

[PamOKW]

maybe you should send each other PMs or emails

Agreed. I know some people have said they really enjoy the "witty" remarks folks make about other resorts. I think they are confusing and usually end-up leading to similar discussions like are happening now on this thread. Maybe we can make a special "gotcha" thread for people to express themselves.

 

[scootert]

I don't care if they are teenagers, young adults, middle agers or older agers.... 11 in a two bedroom unit anywhere is way too much. The occupancy limits are there for a reason, including basic safety. JMHO

 

[Richyams]

There is a certain poster who "jokes" about the "tiny units" at BWV

Exactly who are we talking about here??????

The fact is I LOVE OKW, I love being able to carry all my groceries to my room, do all my laundry, clean my extra large unit and cook meals, it is truley a home away from home

I laughed out loud when I read that. That was great!!