OKW members you are going to love this!

[Richyams]

But eleven in the room is ridiculous. I am very dismayed that MS would approve that. Remember my main argument that has borne itself out again and again. Five is only one away from six, Six, is no big deal, how about six and a kid under three? As long as six and one under three are OK in a one bedroom, eleven teens in a two bedroom is fine.

Remeber all who ridiculed my reasoning?

Guess its another case of me being right again.

 

[RweTHEREyet]

Vacationman:

I was simply going from one extreme to the other. I happen to be the mother of a very well-behaved, never been in trouble, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't do drugs 19-year old son that I am very, very proud of.

I was merely pointing out that these kids could be the opposite end of the spectrum than what had been previously portrayed. Also pointing out that some people very quickly jumped to assumptions, seems I was right.

 

[AnnK]

Quote:

"Exactly who are we talking about here??????"

I don't think that you ever heard about him.................

 

[DeeP]

The fact is I LOVE OKW, I love being able to carry all my groceries to my room, do all my laundry, clean my extra large unit and cook meals, it is truley a home away from home

RY, I did not even bother to go back and see if this quote was from this thread, another thread or whatever.........
And to this poster I say "More power to you and I hope you enjoy your vacation to the fullest and it is non stop Disney magic from beginning to end", and I honestly mean this. But RY, I would not use this quote as one of your favorites from your bag of pro OKW/anti/BWV quotes to post over and over again. It definitely sounds like way more work than I want to do on vacation. It really does not paint OKW out to be a relaxing, stress free pampered vacation! I know that a stay at OKW is what you make of it and you certainly do not have to cook, clean, and do laundry while you stay there, but using quotes like this to promote your pro/OKW etc theme seems a little counter productive in my opinion. Just thought I would share.

 

[disneyaddict]

I know I do not post here often. I usually just look for tips and give advise on these kinds of topics. I am now 23. I have been to WDW with my family many times and we are DVC members, OKW home resort. About 5 years ago when I graduated from HS me and 17 of my then "closest" friends went to disney for our senior trip on our own in the summer. Let me just tell you that we were no angels. We were known to have a party (usually we invited Jack ) now and then. Out of the 18 of us some people also went to the beach to party for the traditional senior week. HOWEVER, when we got to Disney it was completely different. There was so much to do there that we didnt even think of drinking. And we only had 4 rooms (at CBR), yes 2 over the limit. However we were hardly ever in the room. we left at 730, came home at 2 after seeing the shows and dancing at PI. I now have a younger brother that just graduated and is going to the beach because his friends couldnt afford disney. Now that I am older and more "mature" I wish that he WAS going to disney. There would be less of a chance in my opinion of him getting into trouble.

So what I am trying to say to everyone is don't assume that these kids are down there getting drunk. There are much cheaper places to go to do that. The MAY just be having good, Disney fun.

As far as over the limit. Rules are rules, I dont really have an argument againt that.

 

[DVCajun]

I think "RY" was joking too.

I happen to be the mother of a very well-behaved, never been in trouble, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't do drugs 19-year old son that I am very, very proud of.

RWeTHEREyet, boy are you naive! Just kidding-- couldn't resist! (Can't wait to hear all about your recent trip at our meet next month!)

A coworker of my DH comes to mind. He told my DH that he had to have his son's SUV detailed to clean out the vomit. When DH gave him a hard time about his son partying in the SUV (bought and paid for by Dad, of course) he was genuinely surprised and responded that his *son* wasn't the one who vomited- one of his friends did that. His son was always the DD and always stayed out of trouble. To which my DH responded... well, nothing. He was speechless.

As far as the teenagers in question are concerned, it seems rather pointless to debate over what they "might" be like or "might" be doing. Really, the issue is the fact that there are 11 people in a 2 BR. That's the *fact* that we all know and don't need to debate. I'm amazed that they allowed this. But then again, one thing that we're assuming is that MS was told there would be 11 teenagers staying there alone. I somehow doubt that that was the case. If you wanted to book that ressie, what would you respond to the question of how many occupants there would be? And if a few more people just happened to show up, well, things happen.

 

[Richyams]

As far as over the limit. Rules are rules, I dont really have an argument againt that.

Unfortunately, this is what gets this thread to the debate board.

Believe it or not, there are many members who believe the occupancy limits are silly and do not apply. They actually believe that you are being heartless and cruel to remind someone about the contracts they signed.

I am sure that many of them actually believe this situation is fine.

 

[DebbieB]

As far as the teenagers in question are concerned, it seems rather pointless to debate over what they "might" be like or "might" be doing. Really, the issue is the fact that there are 11 people in a 2 BR. That's the *fact* that we all know and don't need to debate. I'm amazed that they allowed this. But then again, one thing that we're assuming is that MS was told there would be 11 teenagers staying there alone. I somehow doubt that that was the case.

That's what I've been thinking all along. I can't believe MS was told this and they said "no problem". If they did, I really have a problem with that. 11 adults (which they almost are) in a 2 bedroom is too much no matter what age. On my first pre-DVC trip to OKW, we had 4 adults in a 2 bedroom and another group of 4 friends in another 2 bedroom, we were comfortable. I can not imagine all 8 of us in one 2 bedroom, let alone 3 more!

 

[pluto109]

I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD MIND THEIR OWN BIZ NESSSS what other people do in their own home is none of our biz ness

 

[Richyams]

It is our business. We are owners. We all signed papers agreeing to abide by occupancy limits. We are right to be outraged, both at the member for even asking and MS if they were actually aware.

 

[BenStone]

There is a certain poster who "jokes" about the "tiny units" at BWV

I do. It's fact.

But eleven in the room is ridiculous.

I do notice they chose OKW to attempt this. They surely wouldn't fit in the cubicles they call rooms at BWV.

We all signed papers agreeing to abide by occupancy limits.

We did. Perhaps a call to MS to see if this actually occured. If so, it's quite possible there may be an opening for legal proceedings for such a flagrant violation. How about DeeP providing a few details so we may do the footwork.

DeeP?

BenStone

 

[AnnK]

quote:
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There is a certain poster who "jokes" about the "tiny units" at BWV
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I do. It's fact.

Nope, not you sorry........

 

[EROS]

I've put in an URGENT call to the DVC STORMTROOPERS......

They're on the case . Imagine, defiance of the occupancy rules by some n'er do well adolescents who probably ALSO smoke pot and drink ETOH and engage in premarital sex.

JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED!!!!!

 

[DeeP]

How about DeeP providing a few details so we may do the footwork.

Ben,
Believe me this did happen. As I posted orginally they did want a villa at BWV but there were none available at such short notice (I guess they must have been talking to a different MS then you were when you booked your fictious vacation at BWV on Fri and were told it was open season for anytime at BWV!!!), so then the CM at MS told the DVC members that OKW would really be better for them anyway since the lr, dr, etc are bigger and they would have room for extra guests but they had to provide their own bedding. As I also posted I don't know if the grandparents said there would be 9, 10 or 11 kids in the 2 BR but they did definitely inform MS there would be more than 8.
If you believe this fine; if not that is also fine. It is the truth. If you think I would post this families name on the internet you are NUTS!

 

[PamOKW]

If you think I would post this families name on the internet you are NUTS!

You mean you weren't planning to start looking for a new job tomorrow?

 

[Dean]

Originally posted by DeeP
If you think I would post this families name on the internet you are NUTS!

Oh, come on. How about address and phone number. Maybe we could all call them ourselves and check out the story. LOL. Seriously, it would be inappropriate to post their identity. Still, there is already enough info there to bug MS if one wanted. You have an idea of the travel time frame, unit size, home resort, destination resort, rough occupancy limit. If one were so inclined to formally complain, I suspect MS could figure it out from that if they truly wanted to. I doubt they would.

As for those that have posted that these teenagers may be different than most, that's true. Still, 9 to 11 teenagers away from home without supervision; it isn't much of a stretch to be worried. Worried about the neighbors, worried about the girls, worried about drinking, worried about loud till all hours of the night. I hope things work out ok.

 

[BenStone]

It's worth a call. I'll report with the details as soon as they are available.

BenStone

 

[Peterd]

I can never tell who's joking anymore.

"It's worth a call. I'll report with the details as soon as they are available."
"If one were so inclined to formally complain"

I hope you're kidding, but if you are really serious about checking up on this, then I guess the Okw is right for you. We used to have neighbors like that, Didn't know what was going on, but it must be bad, sounds like they could be having fun.

You are going to investigate and complain about something that doesn't affect you? Wow! how do some of you find the time? Measure the rooms again, and relax.

again if you were just kidding, ............never mind!

 

[DeeP]

No, Peter I am sure Ben is very serious. I just hope he calls the correct MS this time and not the one he got when he reserved those fake reservations at BWV 2 days ago and was told there was totally open season for anything at BWV. BTW, Ben I REALLY have a busy day tomorrow, could you please see if you can book a 1 BR at BWV either view will be fine for a 2 week period anytime between the last 2 weeks of Nov and the first 2 weeks of Dec. Since you are calling them anyway and there is so much availabilty. Thanks, you're a gem!!!

 

[EROS]

Not to worry, BEN. I've got the DVC StormTroopers on the case. They have some super-secret pot-detecting dogs who will find those kids in no time ........