OKW experience- reservation requests- Pool slide- Hurricane Jeanne - LONG!

RobDoc

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After about 46 weeks (yes- over 320 days) at OKW since June, 1993 - I do, finally, have a negative experience to report.

We have had minor issues over the past 11+ years- light bulbs out, carpet stains, missing supplies, etc.- and in each case these were rectified promptly with a simple phone call to the desk or housekeeping. I have never felt the need to report any of these issues here, since all were eagerly corrected with a simple phone call. HOWEVER ...

We arrived last night for a business meeting/34th anniversary trip. We had a great flight (arriving 15 minutes early) and were greeted by Renata from FL Tours at the baggage claim area as expected. We had a good trip to OKW, including a grocery stop at Publix on the way and arrived to find no wait at the front desk at about 9:30pm. Our requests were non-smoking, upper floor but we were assigned to room 4211 (ground floor) - next to the Turtle Pond Pool. Not an upper floor, but no concern at the desk.

FL Tours had graciously waited to deliver us, with luggage and groceries, to our room after checking in at the resort. Upon arrival at our room, we were assaulted by an overpowering smoke odor lingering in the room. We immediately called the front desk and were informed that, even though the resort was at 75% occupancy, we had been assigned to last 1BR villa available at OKW. (This villa was also HC accessible). They offered to send someone to "spray" the room and also offered to move us to another room the next morning. At 10:00pm, a maintenance CM arrived to change the air filters and a few minutes later someone from housekeeping arrived to casually "spray" a <i>Febreeze</i> type of product around the villa. He also suggested moving the next day.

The effects of the "spray" lasted about 10 minutes.

This morning, I walked down to the front desk at 8:30 checked out of 4211 and got keys to our new room. As anticipated, there were no rooms available at that time. I was given a choice between a villa in buildings 23, 26 or 28. I chose building 23. I was told I still needed to vacate our current room by 11:00am and was given instructions about calling the desk later to check when our room would be ready. I called Bell Services and they came to gather our luggage, groceries, perishables and frozen items for storage until our room was ready. We left the room at 9:00am in the Bell Services van an headed by bus to the MK after leaving our belongings with the Bell staff. I called the desk before leaving MK at 2:00pm and was told that our room was not yet ready. We then headed to MGM (I earned my 11th trip to the hot seat- but that's another story!) and again called the desk at 3:50pm and was told our room was ready (#2325). We got the next bus to OKW and arrived at our room at 4:15pm. Upon entering the key in the lock and entering the room, it was very apparent that the room was either still occupied or hadn't been touched by housekeeping. The sleep sofa was open in the living room, there were deflated Mickey balloons drooped over the chair and the counter was covered with food. A quick walk to HH got me into a line about 15 guests long. There were 4 CM's manning the desk at that time. I got on the internal resort phone and asked again for our new room number. When was given the same room -#2325- I told the CM in needed to speak to a supervisor, since that room was either occupied or had not been cleaned. After several tries, the connection never went thru and I was forced to call again. I was greeted by the same CM who promised to connect me again. After a few minutes - again on hold, I hung up and joined my DW, who had just been invited to the desk by the next available CM. After again asking for our new room number (and being given the same room #), I went thru the saga of our long days and the condition of the room we had just been assigned. She disappeared for about 5 minutes and reappeared with a new room number and the promise that the front desk manager was "personally" inspecting our new room (#2421) and he would be right back to talk with us. We waited in Papa's Den for another 15 minutes and were finally greeted by front desk manager Peter, who apologized to us- gave us yet another room number (now in building 26) and a fourth set of keys- explaining that he would be addressing housekeeping regarding both the second and third rooms we had been assigned. It was now after 5pm and we had been homeless since 8:30am. Our luggage and supplies were still in storage.

In the ensuing discussion, Peter apologized for the events of the past 20 hours and assured us that it was not the usual way things were handled at the resort. He did place a generous credit on our room charge to compensate for our inconvenience. He explained that even though the resort was at 75% occupancy, all of the 1BR villas were occupied and that we had to accept what was available at our arrival. He suggested that, in the future, we should call 2 days ahead to make room requests. I suggested that he probably didn't really mean to tell me that and reminded him of the fact that DVC has pretty adamantly stated that faxes and phone calls are not appreciated or effective for DVC reservations and that these policies have been stated both on the website and in Vacation Magic. He reitterated that such contact is welcomed by the OKW staff. I repeated that he probably didn't want to make that statement to me since I would be happy to share it on the DIS and he again welcomed the opportunity for the quote. (He also admitted that it wouldn't be effective if everyone called to reassert their requests before arrival. So, please don't tell anyone else!! :rolleyes: ) I asked why it should be necessary to call at all when the requests had already made at the time of the reservation and he admitted that requests can't always be met. I again asked why DVC would issue a policy statement about NOT calling if they were really accepted and he replied that he wasn't aware that such a policy existed.

Sooooo, if you have any concerns about your room requests, I guess it can't hurt to call or fax a few days prior to remind the resort (at least at OKW) of what you have already asked for- inspite of the policies published by DVC. He admitted that, in this case, it might not have made any difference in our initial room assignment (since we were apparently the last to arrive at he resort last night), but suggested to call in the future. With his permission/insistence, I am reporting this here. He addressed all of our concerns and complaints satisfactorily and all agreed none of the issues should have ever occurred. I'm confident that everything will be addressed in proper manner with the resort staff.

The pool slide addition is underway. Construction barricades obstruct view from the Turtle Crawl area, but the site can easily be seen from several areas along Peninsular Road. At this point, only initial groundwork has begun- it does appear that the pool has been drained (or at least lowered), but no sign of the finished project is yet evident. If anything of note appears in the next few days, I'll try to post a photo- but nothing photo-worthy is yet apparent. Stay tuned!

On another note, Hurricane Jeanne continues to bear down on FL and landfall is currently expected near Vero in the early hours on Sunday (2-4AM). It is currently expected to pass near WDW Sunday afternoon, but no announcements have been realeased about park closures at this point. Since this will be our third hurricane experience at WDW (Floyd, Charley and now Jeanne - and we were originally scheduled to be here when Frances went thru), I do feel like a magnet for these weather events- and for that, I do apologize.

We will be here for another 9 days- some at OKW, some off-site attending a convention and a couple of nights at BCV. Hopefully the remainder of our trip will be uneventful!
 
Thanks for the report, Doc. Interesting comment on the requests. I am arriving late at night as well next trip and the possibility of getting a smoking room is worrying me something fierce. Even more so if my parents, who are arriving the day before me at 8pm, get a smoking room. I would never hear the end of it.

Hope you make it thru Jeanne alright.
 
Wow, Doc....that's quite a saga. Very sorry to hear of the poor service you got. But I think you'd be the first to admit that your first major snafu after dozens of trips indicates a pretty strong overall service level!

And now I'm wondering if ALL the DVC resorts want us to be calling them a couple of days early. I can't imagine why this would be a good idea for them. And of course, it completely undermines the entire system of placing requests at the time of the reservation.


Personally, one of the things I like about DVC is that, up until now, we didn't have to do those kind of shenanigans like you have to do with the WDW resorts.

Obviously, you gave the guy several chances to retract his statement, and he was pretty adament. And I guess the Front Desk Manager should be in a position to know what's proper or not.



Pretty frustrating...but I'm glad that at least they compensated you for the mess. Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences, as always.
 
Well, doc, your tale is entertaining to read, but then I'm not living it.

Hope the rest of your trip goes much more smoothly----and the happy anniversary celebration is so wonderful that you can forget everything else.

(tee-hee)--Peter is going to be very popular when the DIS boards start calling in their OKW requests and use his name....:wave2:
 

Thanks Doc for the report. Happy Anniversary! I hope that the rest of your trip is great and you continue to keep as posted. Enjoy yourself!
 
sorry about your bad experience - I have a few myself - so you have sympathies.

I now have non-smoking due to medical reasons - I am allergic to smoke and will come down with an asthma attack.

Hopefully the rest of your trip will be wonderful!!!!
 
Originally posted by WebmasterDoc

We arrived last night for a business meeting/34th anniversary trip.
He suggested that, in the future, we should call 2 days ahead to make room requests. I suggested that he probably didn't really mean to tell me that and reminded him of the fact that DVC has pretty adamantly stated that faxes and phone calls are not appreciated or effective for DVC reservations and that these policies have been stated both on the website and in Vacation Magic. He reitterated that such contact is welcomed by the OKW staff. I repeated that he probably didn't want to make that statement to me since I would be happy to share it on the DIS and he again welcomed the opportunity for the quote. (He also admitted that it wouldn't be effective if everyone called to reassert their requests before arrival. So, please don't tell anyone else!! :rolleyes: )



First, congratulations on the anniversary. Second, I would've paid big money to see that little exchange with Peter. I'm sure it wasn't funny a the time but right now, its an entertaining read.
 
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, DOC!

What a bummer to have such a lousy start to your trip, but it is lucky that you have plenty of time for things to turn around.

Would love to hear about your trips to the hotseat. That is one attraction we have yet to see after many, many trips to MGM. Seems that it is always so crowded.

I have said lots of prayers for the folks who live in the Orlando and Vero areas, as well as the DVC visitors. I don't think that I personally would have withstood the stress of all these hurricanes. And to think that our poor CMs have to deal with the disruptions at both work and home. I will be doing some extra tipping when we are there (assuming no hurricane disruption) just to let the CMs know that we support them. I wonder if the Relief Fund for Vero CMs is going well?

Thanks for the reports.
 
We will be here for another 9 days... (with) a couple of nights at BCV.

With the way things have started on this trip are you sure you want to press your luck at The Beach Club? ;)
 
I just wanted to wish you and your wife a Happy Anniversary:love:

Sorry to hear about your experience at OKW,:(
I have read about similar experiences others have had while staying at some of the other resorts. I wonder if it may be due to the stress caused by the hurricanes that rooms are not prepared for guests. I mean are the resorts maybe running short staffed?:confused:
I know you are aware of it, but I just heard on the news that Hurricane Jeanne
is heading for Orlando. Four hurricanes in 6 weeks seems to be a lot.
May the rest of your stay be magical and safe.::yes::
Take care,
::MinnieMo
 
Aside from the reservation/room request thing, sounds like OKW housekeeping could use a wake-up call.
And something tells me that Peter is probably wrong, and will come to regret what he told you.
We shall see---
 
Yep, I think Peter was just trying to take care of the "moment". He didn't realize he was talking to someone who knew exactly how things worked.

Yikes, we arrive at OKW next Saturday night and we probably won't get in until close to midnight. I really hope we don't have a HA studio, I want a tub. Any suggestions on what I should do? Call them on the way down to mention we'll be arriving late and that we want a studio with a tub? I've never requested that on my ressies cause I've always been worried they'll glance at it and think I need a HA instead.
 
Hmmm, I'm wondering if Peter will still have a job when we get there on January 15th, 2005? Doc - sorry about the unpleasant beginning to your trip. Happy Anniversary and I hope the rest of your trip is magical!::MickeyMo
 
I thought rooms were preassigned and not assigned first-come, first-serve. Otherwise it sounds like a housekeeping issue and the fault of that asst. manager. Maybe a new or, hopefully now, an ex housekeeper not properly supervised.

It sounds like the manager did what he could and compensated you. I'm not sure what else he could have done in the situation.

It would have been a nightmare for us with all our kids and our ill 5-year-old who has to have an afternoon rest or she becomes impossible.

This just goes to show that even the best :teeth: DVC resort can have problems.
 
Wow! That's quite a report. So sorry that you had to go through all of that. It's situations like these that make me wonder why I can reserve a non-smoking room at the Holiday Inn Express and be assured of getting it, but when I ask for one through DVC it's only "a request, not a guarantee."

I would also like to hear about your trip to the hot seat. I have been in second place more times than I can remember, but never made it into the seat. How far did you get this time?

And one more thing.....Happy Anniversary Doc (and Mrs. Doc)! DH and I celebrated our 26th anniversary in Epcot two years ago. It was the best anniversary trip ever!:cloud9:
 
this is one of my biggest problems with DVC, they gave you the first room that was totally unacceptable, then expected to have you wait around all day for another one. For good customer service, they should have put you in a 2 bedroom the first night and that would have solved all problems, to make a customer move and wait is just awful. What if you had plans that day to entertain in your villa! Especially if they were only 75%, and it was just the 1 bedrooms that they didn't have!
 
Wow - sounds like all of your good years added up to one big bang. Sorry you had those issues.

I made ressies for a couple of nights at CSR and asked for my usual "non-smoking for medical reasons" (for asthma,allergies and genetic lung conditions) and the ressie arrived with "non-smoking guaranteed" on it. Yet I'm told even for medical reasons, non-smoking is not guaranteed at a DVC resort. Why???

Doc I'm not sure if you mentioned it - but was that building a smoking building - or had someone just smoked in the room?

And I'm sure Peter will be a very popular man!

And just musing here - but I believe that mousekeeping calls in as they finish rooms, so there must be some system in place to mark rooms as done. The room may have been called in as done my mistake, or it was marked done in error when another room was called in, or someone wasn't honest, or something else. There are different ways that this could happen. But since they don't do 100% room inspections, this can certainly happen. Again, just musing, don't really know how they control this.
 
Really, at 75% occupancy, why not graciously upgrade you to a 2-bedroom accommodation, at least for the night?

And,

(I earned my 11th trip to the hot seat)-

Ok, I'm jealous. I'll be happy to hit that attraction again. Getting to the hot seat is no more than a dream. Congratulations!
 
Happy Anniversary Doc!
I hope that the rest of your trip goes smoothly. And you mentioned being a magnet for these storms. I sincerely believe that it was not you that attracted these storms. Well at least I hope not.
After all I experienced the 9/11 Magical Mystery cruise where our itinerary kept changing first due ti Ivan and then due to Jeanne.

As an aside I met your DVC guide Ken on the Magic and he is super! I am now labeled as that crazy DVC lady because of all my answers at the members meeting. I did give full credit to this board for much of my info!:cool:
 
Originally posted by kathleena

... I made ressies for a couple of nights at CSR and asked for my usual "non-smoking for medical reasons" (for asthma,allergies and genetic lung conditions) and the ressie arrived with "non-smoking guaranteed" on it. Yet I'm told even for medical reasons, non-smoking is not guaranteed at a DVC resort. Why???

Doc I'm not sure if you mentioned it - but was that building a smoking building - or had someone just smoked in the room? ...


The room was marked as a non-smoking room. However, my personal definition of a non-smoking room requires that no one has actually smoked in the room. This was clearly NOT the case here. My opinion is that housekeeping should ionize rooms where tobacco odors linger BEFORE changing any bedding or placing new towels and not wait until the next guest has checked into the room now stocked with sheets, blankets, pillows and towels with cigarette odors embedded.

Peter insisted that "some" reservations are still preblocked and are not subject to the current "Room Ready" policy. He stated that rooms are preblocked based on requests for medical reasons and large groups. He also added that OKW now has only two "smoking optional" buildings (#19 and 41) and that was two too many in his opinion.

My opinion is that unless the resort staff is willing to monitor and correct situations where the non-smoking room policy has been abused- it doesn't matter how many smoking optional rooms are found at the resort. If someone smoked in the room, it is no longer a non-smoking room until it has been thouroughly cleaned and the permeating odor removed.

IMO, any room where tobacco has been used inside the room has become a "smoking ALLOWED" room regardless what signage has been placed on the door.

... Stepping down from the soapbox!!
 



















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