Okay, what do you do...

AllyandJack said:
Yes. When you've had to go to another floor to beg someone for their code to use their bathroom because the one on your floor makes you gag, you wouldn't touch anything either. Besides, it's a good day if there is even any soap in there at all....I don't even think the maintenance people want to venture in there. :guilty:

:sad2:
Yuck!!! I can understand taking the kind of action you describe in that situation but it sounded like this is what you do whenever you use any public washroom!!! :confused3 Just thought that would be a bit much, IMHO. :teeth:

PS - Can you complain to someone regarding your workplace? I would report it to the Health Board!!!! You should never have to put up with conditions like that!!! :furious:
 
Nothing.....NOYB!! I never wash. As soon as you touch the door, the germs are back. I use Purell.
 
I would think that they carry a waterless hand sanitizer to wash their hands with ......
and they probably carry disinfectant wipes to clean the toilet seat before they sit on it......
and that they must realize how disgusting most public sinks are.
 
Ready to go in Ok said:
:confused3 Why wash? Did you peep on your hands? ;)

I am a bit of a germophobe, and I wash often anyway.

I don't know how acurate these are, but some things I've read/seen on TV I found interesting...

1. Generally, a public toilet seat has less harmful germs than your home kitchen counter/sink.

2. Money (coins & paper) is infested with harmful germs/bacteria. Generally, it's worse for you to not wash after handling money than it is not washing after using the restroom.
3. (This one is disturbing) If you are ever offered the choice :rotfl2: ... it's much, MUCH more safer for you to have a stranger pee on you than have them spit on you. Urine is actually a fairly benign liquid, "right from the source", if you KWIM (not sitting around for outside bacteria to grow in it). Makes you think about people who spray when they talk.

4. For you Purell people... Purell is about as effective as running your hands under warm water for 10 seconds. Both are pretty much worthless (maybe removes 5-10% of germs/bacteria. Washing your hands with hot water and soap for 10-15 seconds removes only a small percentage of germs/bacteria (maybe 25%). Best bet is washing with soap and as hot water you can stand for 30 full seconds. That'll erradicate 90%+. But, make sure you get under your nails!! They harbor TONS of germs, because it's generally harder to clean there well.
 

And here it is, from the Cleveland Clinic Consumer Info section...
Wash Your Hands!

The TV character played by comedian Jerry Seinfeld was notoriously fastidious. In one episode, he was horrified at the thought of eating a restaurant pizza after he saw the pizza cook breeze out of the rest room without washing his hands. Was Seinfeld being neurotic? Not at all. Serious diseases like salmonella and Hepatitis A can be spread by fecal-oral transmission. Even the tiniest particles of fecal material can spread these bacteria. Other diseases are spread by the residue of saliva and mucous.

Fortunately, hand washing can usually get rid of these substances and their hitchhiking bacteria. In fact, hand washing is one of the most powerful of all weapons against infectious disease. Washing your hands can destroy millions of bacteria with a whoosh of the faucet. But do you know the correct way to wash your hands?

According to the National Consumers League, one out of four visits to the doctor’s office is a result of an infectious disease, such as a cold, the flu or food poisoning, usually caused by the kind of germs that common hand washing eliminates.

Infectious disease specialists have investigated the process of hand washing in microscopic detail. Recently, Janet M. Serkey, RN, and Gerri S. Hall, Ph.D., of The Cleveland Clinic, reviewed what is known about hand washing and its value in the health care setting in the Cleveland Clinic Journal of Medicine. Some of what they found will be of value to you as well.

To begin with, what's the correct procedure for washing your hands? Here are the guidelines from the Association for Practitioners in Infection Control (APIC):
  • Wet the hands with running water and distribute soap or other sanitizing agent evenly over all surfaces.
  • Next, apply mechanical friction by rubbing the hands together for 10 to 15 seconds, making sure that all fingers and webs and the back of the hands receive attention. (The 10 to 15 seconds are important to allow sufficient contact of the antiseptic agent and adequate friction.)
  • Finally, thoroughly rinse and dry hands without re-contaminating them. Effective hand washing takes at least one minute.
The purpose of washing the hands is to remove possible harmful bacteria from the skin. Soap and water are suitable for removing surface bacteria in everyday settings. But no amount of washing is effective if you are wearing rings or artificial nails. These impede the removal of bacterial and serve as breeding grounds for microorganisms. Even natural nails that are overly long can harbor stubborn colonies of bacteria.

In a laboratory study of 100 health care workers divided into two groups (those wearing rings and those not wearing rings), the mean total skin bacterial colony counts for the workers with rings were higher both before and after the hand washing. There is evidence that artificial or long fingernails may have been responsible for a disease outbreak at a hospital some years back.

Here is more information about hand washing from other sources.
Recently, alcohol-based hand-sanitizers have become a popular way of washing up where soap and water are not available. Experts, however, caution that alcohol-based hand sanitizers are not a substitute for soap and water, and are ideally used in conjunction with the wet, bubbly stuff. Soap and water perform the crucial functions of lifting the bacteria from its oily base, and carrying it away from the skin. (And don't skip the soap. Studies have shown that washing with water alone removes no bacteria whatsoever.)

What about antibacterial soap? Researchers have found that antibacterial soap removes 97 percent of bacteria on the hands. Washing with ordinary soap removes 95 percent of the bacteria on the hands. Not a very big difference. It has been suggested that how you wash your hands is far more important than whether or not you use antibacterial soap.

Another critical factor is habit. You need to make it a habit to wash your hands before you eat, after you use the toilet, after you've been outdoors, after touching an animal, after coughing, sneezing or blowing your nose, before you prepare food or touch dishes, after caring for a sick person, or after cleaning up.

Since habits are acquired early, it is important that children get into the hand washing habit. Supervise them. Nag them. You'll be glad you did.
 
AllyandJack said:
I also use my own anti-bacterial wash after I leave the bathroom. I don't have "bathroom germs" though. I touch nothing. I grab a napkin before heading to the bathroom and use that to open the door to the bathroom and the door to the stall. I use it to life the seat up so I can hover and not cause anyone else problems. I flush with my foot. I use toilet paper to open the stall door and a paper towel to open the door to the bathroom.

Are we related?? I HATE public bathrooms with a passion! I do anything and everything to avoid touching anywhere in a public bathroom. I know there are germs everywhere but to me the public bathroom is one place that just gags me!

I'm over the top in public bathrooms but that's the only place I'm a germaphobe! Otherwise I don't care much.

I don't however notice who washed or didn't because I'm too worried about getting out of there ASAP and if someone didn't wash I'd remind myself that's the reason I use a paper towel.
 
Sonya said:
OK, that is usually me. I go out and use Purel on my hands. Most people who wash never use soap so what is the use of running your hands under the water? Plus the door handle is gross. So don't be so quick to judge, the non handwashers aren't necessarily germ infested!

ITA ::yes::
 
I very rarely use the bathroom soap. If I do use it my hands are horribly itchy and they will break out in red bumps. I think I'm allergic to it. I usually rinse my hands and then use hand sanitizer but I'm not going to lug a bottle of soap with me everywhere. I figure germs are everywhere I'm not going to be paranoid what I do and don't touch in the bathroom.
 
For you Purell people... Purell is about as effective as running your hands under warm water for 10 seconds. Both are pretty much worthless (maybe removes 5-10% of germs/bacteria. Washing your hands with hot water and soap for 10-15 seconds removes only a small percentage of germs/bacteria (maybe 25%). Best bet is washing with soap and as hot water you can stand for 30 full seconds. That'll erradicate 90%+. But, make sure you get under your nails!! They harbor TONS of germs, because it's generally harder to clean there well.


Actually, you want to avoid using hot water to wash your hands. Warm water is best, as it is the friction (with the soap and water) that "cleans" your hands.
Hot water may make your hands dry and create open areas that may make infection a problem.

I am not sure about where you got the info on Purell, but alcohol gel is an acceptable way for nurses to clean their hands in many cases, so I am sure that it is OK for most "out and about" hand cleaning.
Obviously there are instances when soap and water are better.
 
I'm not disagreeing - but I have a lot of friends who are self proclaimed "germaphobes" - who sanitize everything - all the time. Guess who's sick the most? The germaphobes!!!!!

A little dirt can be good for you!!!!!

Jenny :)
 
rayelias said:
4. For you Purell people... Purell is about as effective as running your hands under warm water for 10 seconds. Both are pretty much worthless (maybe removes 5-10% of germs/bacteria. Washing your hands with hot water and soap for 10-15 seconds removes only a small percentage of germs/bacteria (maybe 25%). Best bet is washing with soap and as hot water you can stand for 30 full seconds. That'll erradicate 90%+. But, make sure you get under your nails!! They harbor TONS of germs, because it's generally harder to clean there well.
This is simply untrue. As mentioned above by myself and other nurses, antibacterial gel *is* very useful, and is an acceptable form of cleansing in hospitals. Plus, like I said, our microbiology experiment proved that antibacterial gels are VERY useful at killing bacteria. And as Denise pointed out, hot water is actually harmful - it can cause cracking in your skin and allow microbes to enter your system. You are correct that you should wash for at least 30 seconds - most people do not wash nearly long enough. The friction is what gets the job done!

The part about the nails is true though - gross. When we first learned how to properly wash our hands in nursing school, our instructor had this cool lotion that reacted to a black light. She had us rub the lotion on our hands and then wash our hands thoroughly. It worked similar to the red tablets you got as kids to show where the plaque was on your teeth, only this showed where the germs were on your hands. It was amazing how much lotion still remained in the nail BEDS especially and also in between the fingers for most people. Then we had to wash again til it was clean. We used this lotion for a few weeks of lab til we were "proficient" at handwashing - kind of funny now that I look back. :lmao:
 
hpygrll said:
I'm not disagreeing - but I have a lot of friends who are self proclaimed "germaphobes" - who sanitize everything - all the time. Guess who's sick the most? The germaphobes!!!!!

A little dirt can be good for you!!!!!

Jenny :)
So the question is: Do they often get sick BECAUSE they are germaphobes or are they germaphobes BECAUSE they often get sick?
 
When I see someone leave the bathroom without washing their hands, I don't say anything, but I think they are a disgusting pig.
 
i use a paper towel to open the door. i am a slight germ a phobic. i have a bottle of hand sanitizer in my purse.
 
I have never understood the flushing with the foot thing. One thing in a public bathroom that really irks me is when I see that leg come up off the floor and hear the inevitable flush. I beg of you foot flushers, please if you are that disturbed by the possibility of cooties please please please grab a few squares of tissue and flush that way! It seems to me that by foot flushing you are bringing more germs into the bathroom area.
 
My Sister is the biggest germophobic in the world and YES YES YES, she is sick ALL OF THE TIME!!!

Now one other statement I would like to make re: the hand washing and the foot flushing is....

LADIES: DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT put your purse on the floor of a public restroom....if there is no hook, well da**, just hold it somehow...because it has now come to our attentions from certain authorities inspecting restrooms that the floor is LOADED with fecal material.....YUCK :scared1: :faint: :scared: :crazy2:
 
paigevz said:
So the question is: Do they often get sick BECAUSE they are germaphobes or are they germaphobes BECAUSE they often get sick?
To get to the other side. :teeth:
 
Nothing.

It is none of my business. The person could be like me. I am alergic to most soaps & can only use certian ones. So I do not use soaps in bathrooms. What I do is carry a bottle of purell & antibacterial wipes I clean my hands with.

If I use soaps in most restrooms, within an hour my hands are cracked & bloddy. Not exactly a nice look & it is extremely painful. So I always have my cleaning supplies with me in my bag.

Not everyone who sees me leave, sees me or notice pouring the purell all over my hands as I leave. I dont need to explain that if I used the soap, my hands would be in agony in an hour, so I use my own antibacterial products, to every person who sees me in a restroom.
 


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