OK, the next time that someone complains about President Bush politicizing something

[AirForceRocks]

Please remember Senator Clinton's statement outside the hospital tonight. She was very gracious, and thanked everyone for their good thoughts, etc.

And she ended by saying that it helps to have good health insurance and that she hopes someday soon everyone will have good insurance.

Nice job Senator Clinton - nothing like using a press conference about your husband's medical condition to push your political agenda.

 

[bsnyder]

Where's that "gag" smilie when you really need it?

 

[Pop Daddy]

lol, maybe she should post on Antonias "good mariage: thread

 

[bsnyder]

And Brenda, I must say, I'm really glad to see you back in the political discourse here. You've been missed!

 

[AirForceRocks]

Originally posted by bsnyder
And Brenda, I must say, I'm really glad to see you back in the political discourse here. You've been missed!

Thanks, but don't get used to it!!

Actually, I had the day off today...the kids were in school, the house was clean, the laundry was done, the in-laws are off in Mississippi gambling, the husband is out of town for work...so I decided to make a pot of coffee, and spend the day on political threads!!

There has been so much going on lately, and it was fun to just put all of the pressure on the back burner and get back into the fray!

 

[bsnyder]

Visit as often as you can. You always add positively to the debate!

 

[Microcell]

Originally posted by Pop Daddy
lol, maybe she should post on Antonias "good mariage: thread

I am sure she could fill volumes on that thread! LOL! Did she try to look concerned?

 

[shortbun]

Originally posted by Microcell
I am sure she could fill volumes on that thread! LOL! Did she try to look concerned?

WTH is this supposed to mean? You don't think HC is capable
of loving her husband?

AND-when you are facing a huge surgery, you think about the
costs, believe me-we just had it here. So, naturally, her thought
process would move to her big platform-the one she has been
working on since her husband first took office. The very thing
she took all the flack for-health coverage for everyone.

Don't you guys know anyone without health insurance? And don't
start with the "it's a choice people have made" crap. I live in
a very nice neighborhood, two of my older neighbors are disabled
due to arthritis and neither can get affordable insurance so they
have none. AND in this great urban area, we have tons of small
children without it. It's criminal and it should be the first thing
on the agenda of any moral president. Oh, but I remember the
thread about free lunches in school and some of you don't even
agree with that program so why would you think small children
deserved adequate health care if not food. Oh just never mind.
I'm so disgusted with these issues and the selfishness of some of
the American people. I can't get past the lack of conciousness
of the realities faced by millions of Americans, it is simply
inexcusable.

For Hillary to take the time to point out how lucky she is and that
millions are not that lucky is fine. For you guys to not "get it"
is too bad.

 

[Bobbles]

Hoping everyone has a good health insurance plan is a bad thing?
I hope you have a good medical plan also. Why would that be a bad thing?

 

[momof3disneyholics]

I'm a Kerry girl and I think that was a bit too much!

 

[AirForceRocks]

Hoping everyone has a good health insurance plan is a bad thing?

I hope you have a good medical plan also. Why would that be a bad thing?

Oh please. Of course it would be great if everyone had health insurance. But she was using a statement about her husband's medical condition, and turning it into a political statement. There was no reason for her to mention anything about her health insurance or her hope for others to have health insurance, other than to try to shill for Senator Kerry when she was making a much anticipated statement about President Clinton's health. Senator Kerry has said repeatedly that he wants all citizens to have the same health care plan that Congress has, so Senator Clinton's statement was right on target with the Kerry campaign.

IMO, it was in extremely poor taste.

Try to imagine the uproar if during his statement, President Bush had said that he was glad that President Clinton had such good health care, and the he hoped that his plan for small business owners to band together to purchase insurance would result in more people having health care. People, including me, would have been incensed that he would take the opportunity of the illness of a former President to make a political statement.

AND-when you are facing a huge surgery, you think about the costs, believe me-we just had it here. So, naturally, her thought process would move to her big platform-the one she has been working on since her husband first took office. The very thing she took all the flack for-health coverage for everyone.

Her idiotic health care plan aside, you don't see anything wrong with her making a political statement during a statement about her husband's health?

Incredible.

 

[Abracadabra]

Originally posted by AirForceRocks
Her idiotic health care plan aside, you don't see anything wrong with her making a political statement during a statement about her husband's health?

Incredible.

To quote the "never wrong" AFR, "Oh please."

Would it never occur to you that Sen. Clinton might actually be concerned about the MILLIONS who do not have health insurance in America and thus could not afford the type of surgery her husband will have?

I wonder how many people don't see anything wrong with you trying to score a few points for the Republican Party by making a mockery of what is a very stressful time for the Clinton family. Starting a thread like this when the former president is facing quadruple bypass surgery is so beyond pathetic. Trying to leverage political advantage out of someone else's suffering is a cheap shot.

Nice work. What's next? A thread questioning Sen. Clinton's patriotism?

 

[AirForceRocks]

Oh Abs, good to see you back - I guess you posting an obscenity here on the DIS yesterday didn't result in your banning. Too bad.

I wonder how many people don't see anything wrong with you trying to score a few points for the Republican Party by making a mockery of what is a very stressful time for the Clinton family. Starting a thread like this when the former president is facing quadruple bypass surgery is so beyond pathetic.

How is my posting this going to score any points for Republican Party? The people that don't see anything wrong with using a spouse's health to shill for a candidate will still vote for Senator Kerry, and those that were already going to vote for President Bush will do so.

Funny how it's not outrageous for Senator Clinton to use her husband's illness for political advantage, but it is outrageous for me to mention it.

Trying to leverage political advantage out of someone else's suffering is a cheap shot.

I agree!! So why did Senator Clinton do exactly that during her statement last night?

 

[Disney Doll]

Abracadabra, believe me when I tell you, as a nurse for 21 years in a fairly large urban hospital, anyone who needs quadruple bypass gets it, whether they have health insurance or not. Most of the folks I care for don't have it, and they get the exact same level of care as the insured.

Now, do they get their annual physicals etc paid for??? Well, maybe not, but it's only been the past 25 years or so that we got into the habit of thinking that every health care expense should be covered. As a child, I had a congenital heart defect that required open heart surgery. The health insurance my parents had at the time paid for the major medical part of it...the surgery and hospital costs...and that was it. But that was the way all health insurance was back then, and you know the funny part?? My parents paid for the surrounding charges, such as office visits etc. My father was a policeman and my mother was a SAHM...they weren't millionaires. They had no expectation that anyone else would take care of their expenses.

 

[ByTheSea]

And she ended by saying that it helps to have good health insurance and that she hopes someday soon everyone will have good insurance.

I don't see this as making her look bad at all.

I spent many many days in the hospital with an ill parent over the years. This thought was often something that came to mind when you are surrounded by people dealing with extremely costly medical procedures. After overhearing families in surgical waiting rooms trying to figure out if they can take out a second mortgage or will have to sell their farm outright to pay for their Dad's heart surgery (true story) you tend to think about thankful you are that you have good insurance and how nice it would be if everyone had affordable access to good insurance.

I don't believe Senator Clinton is the one politicizing this.

 

[AirForceRocks]

I don't believe Senator Clinton is the one politicizing this.

Really? You don't believe that making a political statement during a statement about her husband's condition is politicizing his illness?

***ETA

I could absolutely see her making a statement similar to what you just made, after the surgery, i.e. "During my husband's hospitilization, we encountered many families that didn't have the kind of coverage we have. We are committed to seeing that all families have this kind of coverage, and that's we want to see Senator Kerry elected".

But the way she did it last night, when people were waiting to hear about President Clinton's condition from his wife (not the 'Senator from NY', but his WIFE)? I just think it was in extremely poor taste.

 

[ripleysmom]

I also have no problem with her comments. She has never made it a secret that she believes that everyone should have health insurance.

Let me see.....

National Tragedy to push a war agenda vs. personal tragedy to push a social agenda? I'm thinking the two aren't even close.....

 

[disney4us2002]

I completely agree that her statement was really in poor taste.

I imagine those without insurance would hear her statement and think how wonderful she is, right? Hmmmm, maybe someone without insurance would think that it's a really great thing since they couldn't possibly pay the bill on their own. I mean the Clinton's aren't rich after all. ROFL!!!!!!

 

[kpgclark]

I absolutely concur with the OP. I thought the exact same thing when I saw her speaking. The expression on her face was revolting too. She did not have one ounce of a look of concern for "her husband." If the sound was muted would you have known that Clinton was about to have major surgery. If it was me I would not have been smirking like that. Blech.

 

[AirForceRocks]

Originally posted by ripleysmom
Let me see.....

National Tragedy to push a war agenda vs. personal tragedy to push a social agenda? I'm thinking the two aren't even close.....

Let me see...talking about a national tragedy in the midst of a political campaign to point up the differences between how two different candidates would handle such a tragedy vs. using what was billed as a personal statement from the former President's wife to update the nation on his condition to push a political agenda (not social, political - let's not kid ourselves).

Yeah I agree, the two aren't even close.