Ok, now it's my turn to be scared, someone tell me I'll be ok on HULK!

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Well, my best friend and I were looking at some videos online and we came across a "Hulk" one and I told her there is no way I would ride that because of my fear of going upside down. She told me that I am GOING to ride it, that is the only way of getting rid of my fear. We are going together to Universal next month, it is her first time and I'm taking her for her birthday weekend. She apparently loves coasters that go upside down, I have never been on one in my life because of a bad fear I have of them.
Those of you that know me know that I go to Universal every month but I have never been on Hulk or Dueling Dragons. I am just too scared.
I actually do really want to ride it, I figure it will be like the first time I rode the Mummy and I was really scared and white knuckled all the way, but later holding my hands up, but I'm scared that fear of going upside down just won't go away. I'm so scared I'm going to chicken out at the last minute and I really don't want to do that. It is easy for me to say now that I wouldn't chicken out, but I know fear can grab ahold of me and keep me from riding. I guess what I'm really scared of is falling out. I know that seems silly, but I'm scared one of those harnesses will break and I will fall out.
Can someone please give me some tips to overcome this and be ok?
 
First off, the harness is really safe. You will pull it over your head, and then you will also buckle it. They will check your restraint

AFter the launch (great launch) , you will be feeling really great.

My nine year old loved it. There are some great effects in the coaster, including a misty tunnel.

Its very smooth, and not jerky like wooden coasters. Its not that scary.
 
Maybe it will help to know a little about the physics of inversions. They use various physics principals such as inertia and centripetal force to maintain a force on the rider pulling him into the train.

Inversions

Many steel coasters nowadays go upside down. As you might imagine, physics plays a crucial role in this element as well. Let us consider a vertical loop. The basic idea is similar to what happens in a turn-- because the coaster train tends to go in a straight line, and the track impedes this, there is an apparent outward force. Thus, in a loop, positive G's are generated, and the train doesn't fall off the track, nor the rider out of the car.

Inverting coasters all have wheels underneath the track, and most have over-the-shoulder restraints, but theoretically, these should not be necessary. In fact, an early inverting coaster, the Loop-the-Loop at Coney Island had neither of these thing's, apparently without mishap. However, wheels under the track are still prudent, because should the train somehow lose speed at the top of the loop, physics would no longer guarantee that it stays on the track. Even in this case, lap bars should be sufficient to hold a passenger in; shoulder harnesses were apparently designed to give a psychological sense of safety.


Physics and Coaster Safety

Many people wonder whether coasters are safe. From a physics standpoint, coasters are quite safe. For instance, in an inversion, the forces always conspire to keep the rider in the car. Coaster designers calculate the forces on the coaster to make it feel dangerous, but really be quite safe.

However, these calculations are done assuming the rider does nothing unusual. If you stand up in a sit-down coaster, the designer's calculations will no longer apply.

http://cec.chebucto.org/Co-Phys.html

For pictures along with the explanation see: http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/roller-coaster5.htm

A roller coaster loop-the-loop is a sort of centrifuge, just like a merry-go-round. In a merry-go-round, the spinning platform pushes you out in a straight line away from the platform. The constraining bar at the edge of the merry-go-round stops you from following this path -- it is constantly accelerating you toward the center of the platform.


The loop-the-loop in a roller coaster acts exactly the same way as a merry-go-round. As you approach the loop, your inertial velocity is straight ahead of you. But the track keeps the coaster car, and therefore your body, from traveling along this straight path. The force of your acceleration pushes you from the coaster-car floor, and your inertia pushes you into the car floor. Your own outward inertia creates a sort of false gravity that stays fixed at the bottom of the car even when you're upside down. You need a safety harness for security, but in most loop-the-loops, you would stay in the car whether you had a harness or not.

As you move around the loop, the net force acting on your body is constantly changing. At the very bottom of the loop, the acceleration force is pushing you down in the same direction as gravity. Since both forces push you in the same direction, you feel especially heavy at this point. As you move straight up the loop, gravity is pulling you into your seat while the acceleration force is pushing you into the floor. You feel the gravity pulling you into your seat, but (if your eyes are still open) you can see that the ground is no longer where it should be.


At the top of the loop, when you're completely upside down, gravity is pulling you out of your seat, toward the ground, but the stronger acceleration force is pushing you into your seat, toward the sky. Since the two forces pushing you in opposite directions are nearly equal, your body feels very light. As in the sharp descent, you are almost weightless for the brief moment when you are at the top of the loop. As you come out of the loop and level out, you become heavy again.


The loop-the-loop is amazing because it crams so much into such a short length of track. The varying forces put your body through the whole range of sensations in a matter of seconds. While these forces are shaking up all the parts of your body, your eyes see the entire world flip upside down. To many coaster riders, this moment at the top of the loop, when you're light as a feather and all you can see is the sky, is the best part of the whole ride.

In a loop-the-loop, the intensity of the acceleration force is determined by two factors: the speed of the train and the angle of the turn. As the train enters the loop, it has maximum kinetic energy -- that is, it is moving at top speed. At the top of the loop, gravity has slowed the train down somewhat, so it has more potential energy and less kinetic energy -- it is moving at reduced speed.

Originally, roller-coaster designers made circle-shaped loops. In this design, the angle of the turn is constant all the way around. In order to build an acceleration force strong enough to push the train into the track at the top of the loop, they had to send the train into the loop at a fairly high rate of speed (so it would still be going pretty fast at the top of the loop). Greater speed meant a much greater force on the rider as he entered the loop, which could be fairly uncomfortable.

The teardrop design makes it much easier to balance these forces. The turn is much sharper at the very top of the loop than it is along the sides. This way, you can send the train through the loop fast enough that it has an adequate acceleration force at the top of the loop, while the teardrop shape creates a reduced acceleration force along the sides. This gives you the force you need to keep everything running, without applying too much force where it might be dangerous.
 
I rode it last November and was fine (at age 39). It starts out and goes by so quickly you don't really have time to be scared.
 

At our dinky little local amusement park, we have two roller coasters. There is a relatively new BIG wooden roller coaster. Then, there's the dinky "regular" coaster. Now to be perfectly honest, neither of these are really anything to brag about, but we deal with it.

So, my brother and I his kids and our our niece and 2 nephews to the park on summer. My niece 9 & nephew 11, were never ever ever going to go on the wooden coaster, but somehow, my brother and I conned them into the dinky one.

Halfway through the line, my niece starts getting nervous and saying she doesn't feel good and is almost crying by time we get on it. My brother and I try to get her talking about something else, then go to the "she only has to do it once", "try it you'll like it", blah blah blah. So, she gets in shaking like a leaf with me and though we have a lap belt on, she still wants me to put my arm across her to hold her in. Everyone's all set and we're off and I hear her screaming through the whole ride. We get off and they're both beaming saying - Let's go do Excalibur (the wooden coaster)!!

Until I went to Florida a few years ago, I didn't do rides. I wasn't really scared, just uncomfortable. I was content to be the one sitting out, but then I started thinking about it. How many people ride "that" ride a day and they all turn out ok! Why should it be any different for me? I'm sitting on the bench outside the ride while these tons and tons of people come off happy and excited. Why should I miss out on the fun? And it really is fun.

Take a bucket of water and spin it around over your head. Do it right and the water doesn't fall out and neither will you! There are safety precautions that they HAVE to take otherwise they simply couldn't operate that ride! How many people ride it over and over and over again, having a great time and they turn out fine. If there was something wrong with it, people just wouldn't ride it and eventually they'd have to close it.

My advice - just go and do it. You'll be fine and you might even have fun. Like me, it sounds like you're judging something purely on your outsider vision of it. Get on it knowing you're going to have fun, scream your head off, and then pass judgement! At that point, if you don't like it, don't do it again!

HTH,
 
It looks sooooooooooooo scary, but it's a hoot! Keep those eyes open!
 
my advice keep your eyes closed first time and open at times on ride then go on second open eyes this time:jester:
 
Whew, I'm glad someone else explained all those physics! I will just add to remember to always keep your head back against the headrest. If you let your head come forward, the same forces that are holding you in will also push your head down, which is uncomfortable and makes you feel more upsidedownish. If you really think about keeping your head back, this may also keep your mind off the loops.

You will do great!

snoozn
 
Originally posted by highlander447
my advice keep your eyes closed first time and open at times on ride then go on second open eyes this time:jester:

I was not on a loop rollercoaster in my life before Hulk. I was on it last week. I was scared but determined. I agree with highlander44. Keep your eyes closed the first time. The only thing that got to me was the launch. The rest was not that bad. I do however have to admit that the only thing I saw was the inside of my eyelids LOL...

I am sooooo glad I did it. I will do it again when I go back
 
Ok, let me ask this... You know how on some coasters you go down a drop and you come off of your seat a little? Do you get that same feeling going through a loop and if yes, at what part of the loop?
 
On loops you don't feel that out of the seat feeling. Actually you feel the opposite as if you are glued to your seat.
 
Originally posted by momof3disneyholics
Ok, let me ask this... You know how on some coasters you go down a drop and you come off of your seat a little? Do you get that same feeling going through a loop and if yes, at what part of the loop?

When you come out of your seat you are experiencing zero or negative g-forces.

When you are in the loop you are mostly experiencing positive g-forces. You won't experience any negative forces in a loop on Hulk.
 
Go For It!!!

If I can live through it and then have to sheepishly admit afterwards that I even liked it, anybody can do it:D

Everybody gave me such wonderful advice, so follow that plan (keep eyes straight ahead and ride early to get the front) and you should really enjoy it.

BTW, I "desensitized" myself for the launch by riding Mummy numerous times :D So, while faster, I didn't think the sensation of the launch was much different than Mummy's.

Have a great time!
 
Yeah, I can ride the Mummy over and over and just want more. The launch is my favorite part. I was thinking I could ride the Mummy like 3 or 4 times then get up the nerve to ride Hulk. I know Dueling Dragons is going to be out of the question for me. There is NO way I am riding anything where my feet dangle.
Thanks guys, you have really made me feel alot better. I really hate it when I feel like I am coming off of the seat. I won't ride Jurassic ride or Splash mountain because of that. I was just thinking that on Hulk that feeling would be even worse and you would feel like you were going to fall out.
 
It's time to tell the tale! :)


How I Learned to Love Roller Coasters and Stopped Worrying About the Beast

The TV news show "Inside Edition" reported that your chances of getting into a fatal roller coaster accident are 1 in 10 million. Yet, every time I thought about riding one, I thought that I would die.
I used to avoid riding roller coasters. I chickened out on Space Mountain at the Magic Kingdom. I avoided Busch Gardens Tampa for years. If I didn't ride the roller coasters, I didn’t think I could do much else at that theme park. I did ride Big Thunder Mountain at the Magic Kingdom and I was terrified. I swore to never do it again!

That all changed when I visited Islands of Adventure in May 1999. I initially planned to avoid riding the roller coasters. My main draw to the park was one ride – The Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man. I passed by the Incredible Hulk Coaster many times thinking, "I'll save it for later." Finally, I decided to ride it.
I almost ran away from the entrance, but I thought of what my mom said when I wouldn't eat lima beans -- "How do you know if you don't like it if you haven't tried it?" I never ate my lima beans and I still haven’t put them in my mouth, but I figured I'd ride the roller coaster once and if I didn't like it, I'd ride something else. There are plenty of other things to do at the park!

I entered the queue and I felt my heart pounding, my skin crawling, and my breath becoming shorter. Finally, I entered the coaster and was strapped in. I felt more scared than any other time in my life. It was scarier than my first date! As the car rolled into the launch tube, I want to cry. Then guests seated in the back of the coaster started yelling, "Whoo!" I began to yell "Whoo!" too. Suddenly, my fear turned into excitement and I was launched out!

I yelled "Whoo!" so much that my voice was harsh after the ride. I don't remember much of what the track looked like because I kept my eyes closed (especially during the upside-down parts), but I was having so much fun that I didn’t really care. At the end of the ride, I said, "What a rush!" At that moment, a roller coaster enthusiast was born!

I had planned to ride the Hulk Coaster zero times, but I ended up riding it seven times. I finally conquered the Magic Kingdom’s Space Mountain. I visited Busch Gardens Tampa a few months after visiting Islands of Adventure and enjoyed the coasters there. I’ve visited Cedar Point in Sandusky, Ohio – the roller coaster mecca – several times as well as many other roller coaster parks around the United States. I’ve joined the American Coaster Enthusiasts and the Florida Coaster Club. Even though I’ve ridden the tallest and fastest coaster in the world – Cedar Point’s Top Thrill Dragster – as my 100th coaster, I haven’t found a roller coaster that gave me a rush like my first ride on the Incredible Hulk Coaster, but I find joy in each and every one that I ride.

Perhaps one day I will have the courage to eat lima beans.
 
Barry,

I loved reading your story. I had no idea that you had racked up all these coasters in only the past 5 years--Amazing!

You made the right choice. Coasters are much better than lima beans;)
 
Thank you everyone so much! I know I can psyche myself up to do this now. I am going the weekend after Labor day with my family and I am going to try it! My friend and I are going the first weekend in October so I'd like to suprise her by being able to ride it. I'll definately let you know how it goes!
 
Just do it! It's too fun to miss.

I'll be forcing DH to ride it with me on our next trip to IOA in January. He was too chicken in August so I had to ride it by myself.
 
Barry, I loved your story and will show it to my 10yo. He was SO nervous before going on Superdooperlooper last month and after he was done said, "so that's what going upside down feels like?". I'm not sure what he was expecting! lol

He has now been studying the www.rcdb.com site and is gearing up for a trip to WDW with me in January and a ride on Rock N Roller Coaster. Once he does that I think he can set his sights on Hulk, but first things first with him. He's not a kid that you can rush! My 4yo, on the other hand is counting the inches until he can do the big coasters and checks and talks about his height daily.

Hulk is fun, but Dueling Dragons is my favorite--back row of fire, front row of ice. I was petrified the first few times that I rode it, though, since climbing that hill takes forever!

I prefer to go upside down and feel a lot more secure doing that as opposed to being on one of the coasters with the big drop where I feel that I'm going to fall out. That I don't like.

T&B
 
Since you asked for it...

"You will be OK on the Hulk!"

I did it and lived.:crazy:
 















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