Oh my dear MIL has decided

op, how old is your dd? because that might temper my opinion.

if your dd was VERY young then my issue with be with your mil. not that she wants to buy the shoes but that you've told her not to and she is moving forward with it.

if your dd is older (and i think kids 5 and up if not younger can get this concept) i would be determining what part your dd is playing in this "game".
are these items that she's asked for or KNOWS not to ask for of you because of previous experiences . my dd and ds know not to even bother asking for certain items-because for our own reasons we've told them they fall into one of a few categories (1) a total waste of money weather we can afford it or not, (2) something that as a MOM i know either the school is going to pitch a fit about or is totaly impractical for the intended use-as in some of the shoes my dd "ooooohs" over-they may technicaly be sports shoes but they don't provide the support and protection her p.e. class requires, (4) something that we just have personal absolute objections against (like the bratz dolls someone else pointed out).

if one of my kids is talking to their grandparent or another relative about them buying it for them then they are trying to "get around" me. i have a major issue with that. if it's something i've told them is'nt in the budget then i still have an issue with them hitting up other family members to pay for it.
these issue i'de be addressing with my kids.

ask your dd how all this came up? did she initiate the coversation? did grandma? how did the specific jacket and shoes come up?

set some ground rules with the kids and ideal with grandma. if the kids are talking about wanting something then grandma needs to ask "have you told your parents? what did they say? what do they think about you getting it?". then there's full disclosure.

is the whole "promise" thing an issue with your kids or JUST grandma? my kids know that mom and dad get final approval on anything a relative promises so they don't look upon that relative negativily if we say no.

i recall at one point when dd was younger she was complaining to her grandmother about me not buying her some kind of shoes. my mom asked me later 'what's the deal-they are not that expensive, if you don't want to put out the money i'll get them for her'. i explained that the shoes were'nt practical, i knew that if i bought them it was something that were going to cause problems at school because of what they wanted (and the school dd went to would flat out tell you not to send them in them) so i'de being having to argue with dd every morning over why dd could NOT wear them to school. how we were trying to teach dd to make sensible decisions and that if she picked one item over another she had to stick with it-and i knew that the tennies she liked this week would be "so out of style, it's embarrasing to wear them mom" and that would lead to more arguments in the morning over my forcing her to wear them/not being willing to go out and buy another pair of shoes (that would just embarrass her in a few weeks anyway:rolleyes:(. my mom was like "wow, i never thought of it that way". that was it-after that she always questioned the kids, and if they said "i don't know" she would say "well figure it out and get back to me on it":rotfl:
 
Our issue with my mother buying both our kids things, is she feels she can dictate what is done with those items.

She bought DS14 a pair of tennis shoes. A CHEAP pair of tennis shoes. He'd had them 1 week, wore to school every day. Went to grandma's on Saturday and she lost it on him. There was a scuff on the toe and a small bit of mud/dirt that had dried on the bottom of the sole. She went on and on about the good money she spent to buy him a pair of shoes for him to ruin them and for us to let him ruin them. It was normal wear and tear. She fully expects him to come home any time he wears them and clean them. It's not going to happen by him or us. She really hit the fan, when 3 months later he completly blew the heel out of the one shoe. Went on about how if he took better care of his shoes, they would last. NO...if you spent more than 20.00 bucks on a pair of quality shoes, they would last longer.

DD had a growth spirt last winter and serously out grew every pair of jeans she owned, but 1. It was during the time when DH was off on short term disability. We didn't have a lot of extra money, but I went out and got her 2 other pairs to get us thru the winter. It had been about 2 weeks since I had gotten her the new jeans, when she came home from grandmas with a pair on that I had not seen before. Asked where those came from, said grandmas stash...she didn't like the ones I had gotten her. Went over a few days later and went into the spare bedroom at mom's, open the dresser and there are 6-7 pairs of jeans that she had gotten for DD because she didn't like the ones I bought, plus others she had on hand but never said a word and let us spend money on buying jeans that DD didn't really need, seeing as she had serveral brand new pair just sitting a grandmas house. DD asked if she could take a couple pairs home and was told no. Those were for her to wear when she was with grandma, not for her to take home and trash.

Grandma has two dressers full of clothes and a closet full that DD and DS have not worn or have barely worn, because she refused to sent it to our home. She holds onto it, for when they are with her. Then she rants and raves about all the money she wastes on clothes. Wouldn't happen if you would just send the things home when she buys them. There are two very cute short outfits that DD will probably never wear, becasue she has spent ZERO days over at grandmas this summer and grandma will not let her bring them home.

Bless your heart... your mother takes the cake on this one. :sad2: Awful for the kids to be scolded for normal wear and tear of cheap clothes and shoes. And even worse to know they have cute clothes at Grandma's, but can't wear them when they want to. I would also have issues with Grandma buying your DD clothes because yours "weren't good enough." I think that would have sent me right over the edge!
 
OP - I think this is one you are going to have to let go. It's not worth the argument as far as I am concerned.

If you DD truly does not care about the fads, having the brand name shoe is not going to change her. Otherwise, I suspect it is only a matter of time until she is going to start asking for brand-name stuff. She knows that you will not buy it. Those items will be special gifts from Grandma. Is there anything wrong with that?

ETA - she will appreciate them because they are few and far between, and hopefully she will take care of them for the same reason.
 
no offense to anyone taking up for MIL but I get the vibe that MIL is going behind moms back and trying to get the kid to say she wants something that the other kids are wearing so she can buy it to irritate mom...plus the op stated that she doesn't buy stuff like that for the other kids...of course this is the way i have understood it...
 

no offense to anyone taking up for MIL but I get the vibe that MIL is going behind moms back and trying to get the kid to say she wants something that the other kids are wearing so she can buy it to irritate mom...plus the op stated that she doesn't buy stuff like that for the other kids...of course this is the way i have understood it...

I got the opposite. To me it seems like the DD is going to Grandma on the sly because she knows Mom will say no and grandma will say yes. Either way, I don't see the big deal. MIL isn't buying her thong underwear and liqueur, she's just buying her shoes. It probably makes the MIL feel important to be able to provide those extras for the girl, and the girl feels special that she and grandma have the relationship.
 
I got the opposite. To me it seems like the DD is going to Grandma on the sly because she knows Mom will say no and grandma will say yes. Either way, I don't see the big deal. MIL isn't buying her thong underwear and liqueur, she's just buying her shoes. It probably makes the MIL feel important to be able to provide those extras for the girl, and the girl feels special that she and grandma have the relationship.

I agree. And it's really clear OP has long running "stuff" with her MIL. Don't know what the background is...and I wonder how the DH feels. :sad2:
OP's children are lucky to have a grandmother, many kids don't. Maybe OP could work on being a little easier on things that really don't matter so that if something comes up that is important, she has enough of a positive relationship that things don't get blown out of proportion. Not blaming...I just understand there may be challenges ahead...and shoes are small potatoes compared some other possible issues that can emerge in the young and older teen years.
 
I really don't get why you care. Your mother in law is helping you out buying clothes for your daughter in the styles your daughter wants. Almost all kids want to wear the "cool" stuff (and that may change depending on the kid's style and what their friends are wearing).

What's the problem?
 
"can afford it" is a whole other issue - she can as long as she charges it...

And what about the other 2 kids?:confused: she hasn't offered to buy them $80 shoes....

This is the only issue here, as I see it. And, it's a big one. My MIL pulls this crap with my kids, but one is 16 and the other is 6 and that's how she justifies it, and as far as brands and clothes go, I do see her point. It's the other ways she shows favoritism that bothers me, but anyway...

I would tell your MIL you appreciate her buying nice things for your dd, but you need for her to stop unless she can do the same for your other kids (unless, your other kids are 1 and 2 or something, and do not care about clothes).
 
I agree. And it's really clear OP has long running "stuff" with her MIL. Don't know what the background is...and I wonder how the DH feels. :sad2:
OP's children are lucky to have a grandmother, many kids don't. Maybe OP could work on being a little easier on things that really don't matter so that if something comes up that is important, she has enough of a positive relationship that things don't get blown out of proportion. Not blaming...I just understand there may be challenges ahead...and shoes are small potatoes compared some other possible issues that can emerge in the young and older teen years.

I really don't get why you care. Your mother in law is helping you out buying clothes for your daughter in the styles your daughter wants. Almost all kids want to wear the "cool" stuff (and that may change depending on the kid's style and what their friends are wearing).

What's the problem?

I tend to agree.. And I just have to add, I belong to several other message boards and visit many more that I don't post on - and I have never seen as many people having "issues" with their MIL's or their own parents as what I have seen here on the DIS.. I wonder why that is? :confused3
 
I don;t think anything that any of you are talking about is the issue here. i think it has to do with the mil pushing fads onto the girl like I MUST have this b/c mil has planted it in her head. the op did state that mil asked the kid what all the other kids are wearing so now she has to have that shoe. but before mil said anything the kid didn't even think about it...
that is the issue and the one that the op needs to address with her mil.

op talk to your hubby and mil about this and try to work something out..:goodvibes

I work with children and I would be extremely surprised if that is true.
 
This is the only issue here, as I see it. And, it's a big one. My MIL pulls this crap with my kids, but one is 16 and the other is 6 and that's how she justifies it, and as far as brands and clothes go, I do see her point. It's the other ways she shows favoritism that bothers me, but anyway...

I would tell your MIL you appreciate her buying nice things for your dd, but you need for her to stop unless she can do the same for your other kids (unless, your other kids are 1 and 2 or something, and do not care about clothes).

I agree, if the situation is exactly as described. Sounds like there needs to be some respect, gentle tolerance AND sensitivity from both OP and her MIL.
. :goodvibes
 
"can afford it" is a whole other issue - she can as long as she charges it...

And what about the other 2 kids?:confused: she hasn't offered to buy them $80 shoes....

This was not in your original post - an important piece of information that would change many of the responses you have received here..:confused:

In that case, I would expect her to do the same for your other 2 children as well - depending on their ages, needs, and wants.. It's only fair..
 
I guess i am looking at this from a different angle that no matter the conversation between the grandma and the kid, grandma should talk to the parents and if the parents approve then yes let grandma buy for the kid.

grandma is grandma and parents are parents and as the parents they have the final say no matter what... of course this is my opinion here... I am the parent to my kids and if I say someone can't buy them something then that person should respect my wishes no matter what they think...
 
I guess i am looking at this from a different angle that no matter the conversation between the grandma and the kid, grandma should talk to the parents and if the parents approve then yes let grandma buy for the kid.

grandma is grandma and parents are parents and as the parents they have the final say no matter what... of course this is my opinion here... I am the parent to my kids and if I say someone can't buy them something then that person should respect my wishes no matter what they think...


So does everyone have to run by you what they purchase your children for Christmas? Their birthdays? Do you tell other parents what they can and can't give your children at their birthday parties? If your children are out with their grandparents and they see a small toy or a shirt they like, do the grandparents have to call and get your approval first? How about if the grandparents are on vacation - and they want to buy the kids souveniers? :confused3

Everyone has "limits".. Obviously you don't buy an 8 yr. old a cell phone without asking the parents - or a 16 yr. old a car - but we're talking about a pair of shoes here.. Seems to me the OP is making this much more complicated than it needs to be (aside from the fact that she forgot to mention in her original post that there may be some favoritism going on - which obviously shouldn't take place)..

:confused3
 
Our issue with my mother buying both our kids things, is she feels she can dictate what is done with those items.

She bought DS14 a pair of tennis shoes. A CHEAP pair of tennis shoes. He'd had them 1 week, wore to school every day. Went to grandma's on Saturday and she lost it on him. There was a scuff on the toe and a small bit of mud/dirt that had dried on the bottom of the sole. She went on and on about the good money she spent to buy him a pair of shoes for him to ruin them and for us to let him ruin them. It was normal wear and tear. She fully expects him to come home any time he wears them and clean them. It's not going to happen by him or us. She really hit the fan, when 3 months later he completly blew the heel out of the one shoe. Went on about how if he took better care of his shoes, they would last. NO...if you spent more than 20.00 bucks on a pair of quality shoes, they would last longer.



OMG! We have the same MIL! :scared1: I didn't even mention THAT! She does have a HUGE shoe issue - she bought dd tennis shoes in April - she was keeping the kids @ the aunts house & all dd had were flip flops & that wasn't appropriate (thought dd would get too cold in 60degree weather) - so she bought her some & gave her a lecture on how to keep them clean - to take a babywipe to them everyday when she finishes wearing them...she comments all the time on shoes - if the shoelaces are dirty, etc...
 
So does everyone have to run by you what they purchase your children for Christmas? Their birthdays? Do you tell other parents what they can and can't give your children at their birthday parties? If your children are out with their grandparents and they see a small toy or a shirt they like, do the grandparents have to call and get your approval first? How about if the grandparents are on vacation - and they want to buy the kids souveniers? :confused3

Everyone has "limits".. Obviously you don't buy an 8 yr. old a cell phone without asking the parents - or a 16 yr. old a car - but we're talking about a pair of shoes here.. Seems to me the OP is making this much more complicated than it needs to be (aside from the fact that she forgot to mention in her original post that there may be some favoritism going on - which obviously shouldn't take place)..

:confused3

now you are just being silly with the petty stuff.

$80 shoes is NOT petty and the issues going on here have nothing to do with out with grandma.

this is more if grandma knowingly buying this girl thins that the parents are obviously not liking ....

I still say that op needs to talk to her hubby and MIL about this...:goodvibes
 
Everyone has "limits".. Obviously you don't buy an 8 yr. old a cell phone without asking the parents - or a 16 yr. old a car - but we're talking about a pair of shoes here..

(aside from the fact that she forgot to mention in her original post that there may be some favoritism going on - which obviously shouldn't take place)..

I agree.

And, I am also not convinced that there is any bad favoritism going on.

It sounds like there are a lot of personal issues with the OP regarding her MIL. Issues regarding 'control' and competition with MIL, And issues regarding 'my child will have nothing extra-nice'... and issues regarding a lot of things.
 
What I am understanding is that dd just saw the shoes while killing time in a store (sometime around May) & said she wanted some - so MIL promised them to her . That was it. Neither of us knew anything about the shoes - never been told about them UNTIL this past weekend. MIL told me that she was gonna buy them - so I looked them up online to see what they looked like she didn't ask me she told me she was buying what dd wanted because of the promise.

Yes - this child is always favored a bit - she's the 1st grandchild....but mainly just in the way I discipline her (I get lectured about that)

the jacket would have been bought on some random day had I not pushed to get it given @ Christmas - since I knew the other kids wouldn't be getting anything on that random shopping day & @ Christmas they'd be getting stuff from her.

I guess I just feel with high ticket items or "fad" items that they should be run by me -actually any clothing item & NOT promised to my children without asking me - she could have promised a pair of shoes - not being specific on which shoes - no problem there...EXCEPT for the fact that if they weren't kept clean I'd hear about it - since she bought them she'd give me more grief.

And yep - I know it sounds like I'm SUCH a horrible person (I think we decided that months ago here on the DIS) but I get along with my MIL - we spend a LOT of time together (more than her own dd - she can't stand her) we scrapbook together & have even been on a 1wk vacation with just us & the kids....

BUt that doesn't mean I want her promising my child she can have whatever kind of shoes, etc she wants just 'cause she asked for it.

My dad- has a computer for my dd - he said she needs one for school - I said no, not in 5th grade she didn't - he asked me about it - I said no & that was then end of it. (he owns a computer business) He didn't go & promise dd a computer & say he couldn't go back on his promise...he asked me first.

And if it makes things better - pretend the shoes are $250 -would that matter then if g'ma bought them without asking me then? In my mind its the same issue - $80 isn't an issue to some but it is to us...
 
I agree.

And, I am also not convinced that there is any bad favoritism going on.

It sounds like there are a lot of personal issues with the OP regarding her MIL. Issues regarding 'control' and competition with MIL, And issues regarding 'my child will have nothing extra-nice'... and issues regarding a lot of things.

UMMM? ISSUES? I'd love to hear more....'cause maybe I do & I need to find them out....
 












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