Official WDW Marathon Weekend 2013 Thread

[lerxst]

Anyone watch Ironman 2012 this afternoon?

Was perfect programming as I have a dreaded (yet wildly anticipated) 15 miler in the morning!

 

[buckeyecinderella]

hi everyone - hope the training is going well for you all!

what have you done in the past for shin pain? after my 17 mile training run (which i did on shoes that were too old) my shins have been killing me. i took almost a full week off of running and they still hurt. i did 5 miles on the treadmill with new shoes. the first mile the shins hurt and then after they felt ok. and now today they are sore again.

can someone recommend stretches? or, should i ice/heat? or is there anything else to ease the pain either before, during, or after the run? they are both very sore

I just happened upon this yesterday-it might help:

SHINS: Almost every runner experiences some muscle soreness in his or her shins. The high degree of repetitive flexing of the shin muscle can create soreness when a runner increases their speed or mileage. To help alleviate the problem, take plenty of time to warm up before every workout. Also, regularly exercising by pointing and flexing the foot and ankle rotations will help stretch and build the shin muscle. Consistency in training will also help relive this temporary problem.

http://m.teamintraining.org/chapter/pb/doc/FY12RunWalkPacket

 

[PRmamiDEdos]

For shin splints, a stretch that has really worked for me is to sit Japanese style with your feet tucked under and behind you and then lean back. You will feel it!

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[Goofierunner]

Anyone watch Ironman 2012 this afternoon?

Oh me me! I watched it. Love that show.

A good book for inspiration is You Are An Ironman. Great stories of regular folks training for the Ironman Arizona. I'm not a big reader, but I couldn't put it down!

 

[Sabeking]

THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY.....AND THE GOOD

So I am training for the half and was supposed to run 8 today. I PR'd the first mile at 9.38...woo hoo At mile 2.5 I was averaging a 10 minute mile and feeling awesome. Got to mile 4.5 and my fuel belt fell off. This has never happened in 5 years of running. Unfortunately I had my DH's I phone 4 attached. Snap, crackle, pop... that's all she wrote. I was literally sick to my stomach! I thought he is going to kill me, maybe I should just keep on running...AWAY. Anyhow, the whole ordeal or 8 miles ended up being an average of a 12.5 mile after the death of the phone! When I got home I broke the news to DH of 16 years. He said, it's just a phone; I can live without it but I can't live without my wife and mom and to our kids!


I hope everyone has a supportive spouse/friend! It reminded me of how lucky I am and to say thank you to my DH for sitting in the cheering section!

 

[dreams91]

Question for the veterans.....I'm scheduled to run the full. I've been seeing the doc about how high my heart rate gets. Doc decided I need to keep it under 162 for the marathon. Sounds simple enough for most....however if I do intervals, my heart rate still gets upwards of 180 (at a slow 14-15 min mile). So it looks like I'll need to keep under 16 min mile. I can walk faster than that and keep my heart rate down. I really don't want to say I walked the whole thing tho. So I was thinking of jogging first mile (to get out of the crowd), then walking next 12 miles then intervals for final 13 (all while keeping an eye on heart rate). What do you think of the strategy AND how far should I be training with that strategy. I'm only up to 14 now and set to do 16 on Friday at the 16mm

 

[Ariel484]

Question for the veterans.....I'm scheduled to run the full. I've been seeing the doc about how high my heart rate gets. Doc decided I need to keep it under 162 for the marathon. Sounds simple enough for most....however if I do intervals, my heart rate still gets upwards of 180 (at a slow 14-15 min mile). So it looks like I'll need to keep under 16 min mile. I can walk faster than that and keep my heart rate down. I really don't want to say I walked the whole thing tho. So I was thinking of jogging first mile (to get out of the crowd), then walking next 12 miles then intervals for final 13 (all while keeping an eye on heart rate). What do you think of the strategy AND how far should I be training with that strategy. I'm only up to 14 now and set to do 16 on Friday at the 16mm

Curious...why? Plenty of people walk the races in the allotted time. Whether you walk, run or crawl across that finish line, you completed 26.2 and that is something to be proud of. Do what works for YOU.

And yes, you need to maintain a 16 minute/mile pace and the first mile is going to be pretty crowded. Hopefully someone else can give you better training/race strategy advice, not sure I can help there.

 

[dreams91]

Curious...why? Plenty of people walk the races in the allotted time. Whether you walk, run or crawl across that finish line, you completed 26.2 and that is something to be proud of. Do what works for YOU.

Great question. No idea why my head is saying that. If you walked it, would you still train up to 20 miles?

 

[SAHDad]

Great question. No idea why my head is saying that. If you walked it, would you still train up to 20 miles?

If I were going to walk it, yeah, I would still train to the 20 miles. It's good exercise, and it does help you prepare for the time on your feet, come race day.

Don't worry about walking it - it's not as though the race gets shorter by walking it. It's a long distance, whether you run it, walk it, or do some combination of both.

 

[steves1019]

Well I survived the Midwest Super! I ended up 7th for females in the Elite heat which isn't bad but I was hoping for a couple places higher! Anyway, it was a very challenging course but mostly because it was so cold and we were wet/muddy the entire time. It got to the point I was just so numb all over and it was hard to make my muscles work. I ended up doing 120 burpees for slipping off a balance log, the traverse wall, the spear throw, and the rope climb. I have done many obstacle course races and mud runs but have to say Spartan Races are definitely the best! Very challenging but rewarding and the people are great!

Congrats! Awesome! I'm looking at the Spartans for 2013 but I'm going to have to shift things around and travel a bit. Hopefully I can work it out. Then I need to get a friend to go with me. Would hate the drive as aftermath if I were alone.

 

[PRmamiDEdos]

THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY.....AND THE GOOD

So I am training for the half and was supposed to run 8 today. I PR'd the first mile at 9.38...woo hoo At mile 2.5 I was averaging a 10 minute mile and feeling awesome. Got to mile 4.5 and my fuel belt fell off. This has never happened in 5 years of running. Unfortunately I had my DH's I phone 4 attached. Snap, crackle, pop... that's all she wrote. I was literally sick to my stomach! I thought he is going to kill me, maybe I should just keep on running...AWAY. Anyhow, the whole ordeal or 8 miles ended up being an average of a 12.5 mile after the death of the phone! When I got home I broke the news to DH of 16 years. He said, it's just a phone; I can live without it but I can't live without my wife and mom and to our kids!

I hope everyone has a supportive spouse/friend! It reminded me of how lucky I am and to say thank you to my DH for sitting in the cheering section!

Awww. Great first mile!

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[RunRookie]

Question for the veterans.....I'm scheduled to run the full. I've been seeing the doc about how high my heart rate gets. Doc decided I need to keep it under 162 for the marathon. Sounds simple enough for most....however if I do intervals, my heart rate still gets upwards of 180 (at a slow 14-15 min mile). So it looks like I'll need to keep under 16 min mile. I can walk faster than that and keep my heart rate down. I really don't want to say I walked the whole thing tho. So I was thinking of jogging first mile (to get out of the crowd), then walking next 12 miles then intervals for final 13 (all while keeping an eye on heart rate). What do you think of the strategy AND how far should I be training with that strategy. I'm only up to 14 now and set to do 16 on Friday at the 16mm

I think moving for 26.2 miles on foot is a major achievement regardless of the pace. You are a Marathon Finisher when you cross that line. And doing so in a healthy state is just as important, so you can truly enjoy that moment! I did the AVON Walk and walked both a Full and Half Marathon back-to-back, and it was amazing! When I ran the Chicago Marathon four months later, it was equally amazing. And yes, I trained for months to get ready for AVON with my longest walk being 22 miles. I definitely encourage you to put in the 'foot time and mileage' because the training is about preparing the body for the time and distance you will be going.

Walking and running burn almost the same number of calories. I'd say walk the race at a 15:00/mm pace to keep the sweepers away, and have a a awesome and safe race! And be proud of yourself for doing something that less than 1% of the U.S. population has done.

 

[tedhowe]

Question for the veterans.....I'm scheduled to run the full. I've been seeing the doc about how high my heart rate gets. Doc decided I need to keep it under 162 for the marathon. Sounds simple enough for most....however if I do intervals, my heart rate still gets upwards of 180 (at a slow 14-15 min mile). So it looks like I'll need to keep under 16 min mile. I can walk faster than that and keep my heart rate down. I really don't want to say I walked the whole thing tho. So I was thinking of jogging first mile (to get out of the crowd), then walking next 12 miles then intervals for final 13 (all while keeping an eye on heart rate). What do you think of the strategy AND how far should I be training with that strategy. I'm only up to 14 now and set to do 16 on Friday at the 16mm

I'm just curious (if you don't mind sharing) - is there an underlying condition that you are seeing the doctor about, or is it just the heart rate itself that is a concern?

I'm not suggesting that you should do anything other than what you and your doctor decide is best, but when I run my heart rate is almost always at or over 160... and usually over 180 for longer distances and/or warmer weather for extended periods of time. My heart rate will peak over 200 quite often on uphills, and the average HR for my runs is often well into the 160s.

I've never had any indication this is a problem, so I'm curious about why those ranges might be a medical issue for you.

Ted

 

[lerxst]

Just finished 15!! Felt really good except that last half mile was kinda rough. Feet were starting to hurt.

Anyways, and question came to mind while pounding the pavement. For those that have experience with the Galloway method, how does that run /walk pattern effect the notorious wall at around mile 20? Does still rear it's ugly head at about the same time? Does it come later? Does it not come at all?

Now I know this will probably be filed under "it's different for everyone", but I was curious.

 

[jimandami]

Congrats! Awesome! I'm looking at the Spartans for 2013 but I'm going to have to shift things around and travel a bit. Hopefully I can work it out. Then I need to get a friend to go with me. Would hate the drive as aftermath if I were alone.

Thanks! Definitely try one if you can! We are doing the Indiana Sprint in April and then planning on the Vermont Beast in September to earn our Trifecta!

 

[rocio]

Rocio with the sprained ankle here. Thanks for the kind thoughts.

I've had ankle sprains before but not as a runner. How long should I expect to not run? It is not too swollen, but I can't put much weight on that foot. Not too painful though. So I don't think it's a bad sprain. I was planning to run the Chicago Hot Chocolate 15k a week from tomorrow. Should I even consider running/walking/hobbling it? I was looking forward to the race but I rather be better for the marathon in January. Thoughts?

I am doing RICE and Advil.

Bumpity bump. Anybody have any ideas how long I should be off of a sprained ankle? Any experiences with this? How will I know I can run on it again? If I can walk normally is that an indication that I can/should run on it? I'm not there yet, just wondering. Thanks!

ETA: In answer to other peoples questions: Sorry I know nothing about race day strategies since this will be my first marathon. But it is pretty crowded the first mile or so (it was for the Princess) so you may have not choice but to walk/slow run the first 2 miles.

 

[dumbo_buddy]

thanks to everyone for the shin splint advice! all the support and advice was great! i ordered some calf sleeves and have been doing a lot of icing and stretching. also, my new shoes are sure to help

ran an incredibly windy 5 miles. i needed to get out today because with hurricane sandy coming i might not get out again for a few days!

RunRookie - i love your posts. you are so motivational! and so right - 26.2 miles is 26.2 miles whether your run or walk or crawl!

 

[jmasgat]

Bumpity bump. Anybody have any ideas how long I should be off of a sprained ankle? Any experiences with this? How will I know I can run on it again? If I can walk normally is that an indication that I can/should run on it? I'm not there yet, just wondering. Thanks!
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With the varied injuries I have had over the last year (stress fracture, strained hip muscles, herniated disc) my sports med doc always said "when you are pain free, then you can slowly ramp back up".

Some things you can "run through" in some pain without causing any additional damage--IT band issues,for example. But with a sprained ankle, I would probably err on the side of caution and follow my doc's orders.

If you can walk normally, and aren't in pain, give running a try. Low miles,easy tempo. Stop if it hurts. I know it sounds obvious, but I also know I am guilty of thinking " oh, it's not too bad" and running on. And that attitude can lead to worse things sometimes.

Meantime, I would probably try gently stretching/rotating your ankle to try and keep it loose. XT as appropriate. And don't sweat the down time. Think of it as nature's way of giving the rest of your body a break.

Maura

 

[rocio]

With the varied injuries I have had over the last year (stress fracture, strained hip muscles, herniated disc) my sports med doc always said "when you are pain free, then you can slowly ramp back up".

Some things you can "run through" in some pain without causing any additional damage--IT band issues,for example. But with a sprained ankle, I would probably err on the side of caution and follow my doc's orders.

If you can walk normally, and aren't in pain, give running a try. Low miles,easy tempo. Stop if it hurts. I know it sounds obvious, but I also know I am guilty of thinking " oh, it's not too bad" and running on. And that attitude can lead to worse things sometimes.

Meantime, I would probably try gently stretching/rotating your ankle to try and keep it loose. XT as appropriate. And don't sweat the down time. Think of it as nature's way of giving the rest of your body a break.

Maura

Thanks Maura! You share the name of my training buddy. I had to laugh at your "obvious" statement of thinking it's not too bad. I am totally guilty of that so I will try to keep an honest assessment. In fact I woke up this morning thinking that and then took off my ace bandage to see a swollen foot (no *too* bad) with some bruising that wasn't there yesterday. *sigh* Maybe i'll give it a try by the end of the week if it continues to improve.

 

[RunRookie]

I'm just curious (if you don't mind sharing) - is there an underlying condition that you are seeing the doctor about, or is it just the heart rate itself that is a concern?

I'm not suggesting that you should do anything other than what you and your doctor decide is best, but when I run my heart rate is almost always at or over 160... and usually over 180 for longer distances and/or warmer weather for extended periods of time. My heart rate will peak over 200 quite often on uphills, and the average HR for my runs is often well into the 160s.

I've never had any indication this is a problem, so I'm curious about why those ranges might be a medical issue for you.

Ted

I know for ME, I was told to keep my heart rate under 170 unless I am in a full sprint like at the end of the race. But for the long distances, to keep my heart rate in Zone 2-3 -- 146 to 160 -- if possible. Of course, I am 52 years old. By heart is healthy; I just don't want to over stress it.

So dreams91, I can appreciate the doctor's suggestions.