Official WDW Marathon Weekend 2013 Thread

[tedhowe]

This may have been addressed already so sorry if I am repeating! What kind/brand of shoes are you all using?
Anyone running in a minimalist shoe? Thoughts?

I run in Vibram FiveFingers SeeYas.

They are just about as minimalist as Vibram makes... nearly no cushion at all... almost no structure to the upper. I liken them to socks with rubber soles.

I have not run a full... but have completed my first half marathon a few weeks ago. That was my long run, but I've had now about 7 or 8 runs of at least 10 miles. My feet do get sore on runs that long, but it generally takes only a day or so to feel fully better.

I neer could run until I found out about minimalist shoes and a "barefoot" style of running (fore- to mid-foot strike instead of heel striking). I have heel spurs in both feet and have had several bouts of plantar fasciitis in the past 4 or 5 years.

I took up running in January and am going to cross 600 miles run this year next week... all without any significant injury and no PF.

Ted

 

[ColleenG]

Oh goodness. I finished my 13 miles today and I have a low back muscle that is unhappy. Not sure how I do it but the left Q-L has been tightening way too much this training.

However, my husband said since I was doing 13, I should just go ahead and do the 0.1 more and make it the neighborhood half marathon so I did AND he MADE me a MEDAL. Can you believe it? He's always so supportive with water stops and such but this was just the best.

Your husband rocks! Can you have him talk to mine?

 

[RunRookie]

I run in Vibram FiveFingers SeeYas.

They are just about as minimalist as Vibram makes... nearly no cushion at all... almost no structure to the upper. I liken them to socks with rubber soles.

I have not run a full... but have completed my first half marathon a few weeks ago. That was my long run, but I've had now about 7 or 8 runs of at least 10 miles. My feet do get sore on runs that long, but it generally takes only a day or so to feel fully better.

I neer could run until I found out about minimalist shoes and a "barefoot" style of running (fore- to mid-foot strike instead of heel striking). I have heel spurs in both feet and have had several bouts of plantar fasciitis in the past 4 or 5 years.

I took up running in January and am going to cross 600 miles run this year next week... all without any significant injury and no PF.

Ted

That is pretty awesome! I have not yet tried the FiveFingers shoes because of the lack of cushion. I have a pair of Altra Running Instincts shoes as well as my Kinvaras and PureFlows. They are a minimalist zero-drop shoe. I enjoy running in them but I have not tried running more than 6-7 miles in them because of the lack of cushioing.

At 245lbs, I know that cushion is something my feet need just because of the stresses that the weight puts on my feet. I am a mid-foot striker and I have found that, for me, I like the 4mm heel drop shoes with some cushioning. 4mm heel to toe variance is considered minimalist, and it does take time for someone who has been running with a more substantial ratio (like 10mm or more) to transition to the lower heel to toe ratios (mostly because of the added work that the calves and arches do when running minimalist/barefoot).

Maybe when I have lost some more weight, I will take my Instincts further and see how they work out.

 

[FFigawi]

This may have been addressed already so sorry if I am repeating! What kind/brand of shoes are you all using?
Anyone running in a minimalist shoe? Thoughts?

I alternate between my New Balance Minimus and my Asics Kayanos. Love them both.

 

[FFigawi]

A question for those who have run a full. Do you only depend on the water stops and time your gels, Clif bars, etc for the stops or do you wear a hydration belt so you can wash down your gel when you feel like it?

I rarely carry fluids with me. I either have a gel when I want it and get water at the next stop, or I take it at a water stop. My timing isn't so precise that a few minutes early or late in order to get it in at a water stop makes any difference.

 

[jmasgat]

A question for those who have run a full. Do you only depend on the water stops and time your gels, Clif bars, etc for the stops or do you wear a hydration belt so you can wash down your gel when you feel like it?

I always wear a hydration belt and time my fuel stops for what works for me (every 5 miles). I use the water stops along the way and use my belt for water to support my water strategy (try to sip every mile).

YMMV

Maura

 

[Sabeking]

I wore out my pair of Newton Distances and while I loved them, I decided that I needed a bit more cushion for a Full. I ran several Halfs with the Newtons and they were great. Now I am running in Saucony Kinvara 3s and Brooks PureFlows. I am planning on running the Chicago Marathon in the PureFlows because they have more cushioning but still have only a 4mm heel drop. The Kinvara 3s are also 4mm heel drop shoes (I have run several Halfs with these as well) but they have a bit less cushioning than the PureFlows.

Just my experience. Everyone's feet are so different. You really have to try things out to see what feels the best for you. I know several runners who wear one type of shoe for Fulls and a different type for Halfs just because of the extra distance and time 'under foot'.

Thanks for the info. I like to hear what others are wearing. I used to run in Muzunos but switched to Nike Frees 3. I like the minimal shoe; it seems to be easy on the knees. Was kind of interested in the New Balance Minimal zero but that may be too minimal for distance for me. I will look at the Kinvara's too!

 

[Sabeking]

I run in Vibram FiveFingers SeeYas.

They are just about as minimalist as Vibram makes... nearly no cushion at all... almost no structure to the upper. I liken them to socks with rubber soles.

I have not run a full... but have completed my first half marathon a few weeks ago. That was my long run, but I've had now about 7 or 8 runs of at least 10 miles. My feet do get sore on runs that long, but it generally takes only a day or so to feel fully better.

I neer could run until I found out about minimalist shoes and a "barefoot" style of running (fore- to mid-foot strike instead of heel striking). I have heel spurs in both feet and have had several bouts of plantar fasciitis in the past 4 or 5 years.

I took up running in January and am going to cross 600 miles run this year next week... all without any significant injury and no PF.

Ted

Wow! I have always wondered about the five fingers in long distances. Thanks for the info!

 

[Sabeking]

I alternate between my New Balance Minimus and my Asics Kayanos. Love them both.

I am going to look at the New Balance today. Is that the Road Zero? I currently use the Nike Frees 3. Wouldn't it be great if you could "try out" all the shoes and then return those that did not work?!!!

 

[FFigawi]

I am going to look at the New Balance today. Is that the Road Zero? I currently use the Nike Frees 3. Wouldn't it be great if you could "try out" all the shoes and then return those that did not work?!!!

No, I use the MT10s. Very comfortable and good for running on a variety of surfaces. I have some VFF Bikilas as well, but use those mostly on trails.

 

[Ariel484]

I was thinking about bringing a Payday with me and cutting it into pieces!

A question for those who have run a full. Do you only depend on the water stops and time your gels, Clif bars, etc for the stops or do you wear a hydration belt so you can wash down your gel when you feel like it?

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You need to look at the course map and figure out if you think the water/fuel stops are going to work with what you do in training.

For me personally, I have water/some kind of sports drink every 2 miles, so Disney's water stops are timed pretty well for me. The fuel stops are not, and they don't hand out the fuel that I use (they hand out Clif gels, bananas and chocolate...I like Gu chomps) so I do carry that with me.

 

[PRmamiDEdos]

You need to look at the course map and figure out if you think the water/fuel stops are going to work with what you do in training.

For me personally, I have water/some kind of sports drink every 2 miles, so Disney's water stops are timed pretty well for me. The fuel stops are not, and they don't hand out the fuel that I use (they hand out Clif gels, bananas and chocolate...I like Gu chomps) so I do carry that with me.

I plan on having my spibelt to store any Chomps (I've really come to like them) or gels I may need, but was wondering if I'd be wearing my water belt too.

It seems shin splints are coming to haunt me . This morning I started a 3.5 mile run that was hilly. I felt some twinging in my left calf and stupid me ignored it. I was trying to push myself and I just couldn't get it going today. When I got home, the front of my calf was burning so I filled a bag with ice, put it against my leg and tied a kitchen towel around it. I couldn't sit at that moment because I needed to get the kids off to school so I had to make lunches, etc. When they finally left, I refilled my ice and put my leg up. It feels much better which leads me to think it is just shin splints. I'm still getting a little twisty feeling now and then but not like after I finished running this morning.

Here's my dilemma. I have the Diva 1/2 marathon in less than two weeks. I planned to do 3-4 miles a day, 4 x a week until then. My last long run was 15.60 on Friday. I don't think I'll be running the road, I might just take my running to the local rubberized track. I don't want to stop running all together, but I want to be healthy enough to PR (at least 2:35:00) during this 1/2. Any suggestions? Thanks!

 

[NitroStitch]

I was thinking about bringing a Payday with me and cutting it into pieces!

A question for those who have run a full. Do you only depend on the water stops and time your gels, Clif bars, etc for the stops or do you wear a hydration belt so you can wash down your gel when you feel like it?

Sent from my iPad using DISBoards. Please excuse the typos.

I haven't done a full yet, but for the WDW half in January and the Princess Half in February of this year, they handed out Clif gels but had no water at all at the fuel stop. If you didn't hold your gel until the next water stop, you needed to have brought your own liquid to wash it down. Lots of us found that fairly odd, but I was ok, since I always bring hydration (I drink a lot).

 

[disney_runner]

I was thinking about bringing a Payday with me and cutting it into pieces!

A question for those who have run a full. Do you only depend on the water stops and time your gels, Clif bars, etc for the stops or do you wear a hydration belt so you can wash down your gel when you feel like it?

Sent from my iPad using DISBoards. Please excuse the typos.

Hey, they do hand out Hershey's chocolate and other sweets somewhere about mile 22 or 23. So at least there's that.

I don't bother bringing water bottles. Disney is so good about having H20 nearly every mile that that's good enough for me. I do bring my own gel shots though since I prefer strawberry only.

 

[Ariel484]

I plan on having my spibelt to store any Chomps (I've really come to like them) or gels I may need, but was wondering if I'd be wearing my water belt too.

During the 2012 marathon they had (I think) 21 water stops. It was something like a water stop every other mile up until the halfway point and then one every mile afterward. With the course changing there's no guarantee that this will be the case again, and they haven't updated the course map to show where the water stops will be, but I'd guess that the frequency will be similar.

Like I said above, they'll most likely update the course map to mark where the water and fuel stops are, and once they release the race program (sometime in December?) there should be a note about the water stops.

I'll echo what a previous poster said - the water stops that WERE there on the course were fully stocked with water and Powerade (lemon-lime, yuck), so no problems there. The volunteers manning the stops were wonderful.

 

[princessbride6205]

This may have been addressed already so sorry if I am repeating! What kind/brand of shoes are you all using?
Anyone running in a minimalist shoe? Thoughts?

I have not been able to get comfortable in a minimalist shoe. Some days feel good, other days not. I did just order some Altras. They have minimalist and ones with cushioning, but the main features are the zero drop (heel and forefoot cushioning is exactly the same thickness) and a non-tapered toe box. I will let you know how I like them! For the past year I have been running in Asics Cumulus.

I was thinking about bringing a Payday with me and cutting it into pieces!

A question for those who have run a full. Do you only depend on the water stops and time your gels, Clif bars, etc for the stops or do you wear a hydration belt so you can wash down your gel when you feel like it?

I haven't done a full yet, but for halfs at Disney, I just rely on their water stops. They are good race organizers, have a lot of stops and I'm never worried they will have run out. I do bring my own fuel. For halfs, I use a sport beans, Gu or chocolate agave (slower burn energy than Gu type gels, which is good for my walk/run pace). Given that it will take me 6 hours to finish the full, I'm going to have to bring something that is actual food, I think. Maybe a Larabar or those little Justin's individual peanut butters.

Did my 11 mile training run this weekend. It was very tough towards the end, made me start questioning, "Whose crazy idea was it to run a marathon?!" My right ankle is bugging me - a fair bit yesterday, less today, though nothing hurt during the run. I'll take it easy today and tomorrow and may do pool running on Wednesday instead of my training run outside.

 

[lerxst]

I have not been able to get comfortable in a minimalist shoe. Some days feel good, other days not. I did just order some Altras. They have minimalist and ones with cushioning, but the main features are the zero drop (heel and forefoot cushioning is exactly the same thickness) and a non-tapered toe box. I will let you know how I like them! For the past year I have been running in Asics Cumulus.

I haven't done a full yet, but for halfs at Disney, I just rely on their water stops. They are good race organizers, have a lot of stops and I'm never worried they will have run out. I do bring my own fuel. For halfs, I use a sport beans, Gu or chocolate agave (slower burn energy than Gu type gels, which is good for my walk/run pace). Given that it will take me 6 hours to finish the full, I'm going to have to bring something that is actual food, I think. Maybe a Larabar or those little Justin's individual peanut butters.

Did my 11 mile training run this weekend. It was very tough towards the end, made me start questioning, "Whose crazy idea was it to run a marathon?!" My right ankle is bugging me - a fair bit yesterday, less today, though nothing hurt during the run. I'll take it easy today and tomorrow and may do pool running on Wednesday instead of my training run outside.

Welcome to the party. I have been resting for a week for sore foot after 13 miles run. Several of us in the office are nursing aches and pains as mileage increases.

I am training under the proviso "better to be under trained and uninjured" than over trained and hurt. So trying to be cautious here as well.

 

[MightyDuck001]

On the topic of shoes, the ones I currently wear are the Saucony Triumph 9 and it's just been confirmed... they're going to be extinct come November, replaced by the Triumph 11. I'm kind of nervous--I've tried on other pairs, but they never feel wide enough so I know they won't be wide enough after 10+ miles.
Any other wide footed ladies can suggest other shoes to ease my worries? Do I just stock up now? How much of a difference is there usually in these kinds of changes? I don't have the money to buy extra pairs right now, but I'm thinking it'll get bumped to the top of the list of things to buy (right alongside a new sports bra...).

 

[Qltrgrl2]

On the topic of shoes, the ones I currently wear are the Saucony Triumph 9 and it's just been confirmed... they're going to be extinct come November, replaced by the Triumph 11. I'm kind of nervous--I've tried on other pairs, but they never feel wide enough so I know they won't be wide enough after 10+ miles.
Any other wide footed ladies can suggest other shoes to ease my worries? Do I just stock up now? How much of a difference is there usually in these kinds of changes? I don't have the money to buy extra pairs right now, but I'm thinking it'll get bumped to the top of the list of things to buy (right alongside a new sports bra...).

It is a really tough call when the manufacturer changes a shoe...even if it is ever so slightly. I wear the Brooks Ravenna and when they changed from 2 to 3, there were many ladies who did not like the change. Actually, for me, they are better. I too, have a wide foot and these shoes work awesome for my foot. Good luck!

 

[PRmamiDEdos]

Has anyone ever run with the water bottle that straps to your hand? Is it comfortable or cumbersome?