Official WDW Marathon Weekend 2013 Thread

[JRM393]

I've read conflicting advice on this topic, so I'm just wondering if you all stretch before you run or not. The last two runs I've done this week (both 3 miles each), I've experienced horrible pain in my shins for the first half of the run. They just felt like they were burning, to the point that I had to make a concentrated mental effort to keep running with one foot in front of the other. Both times I stopped a couple times to stretch and it went away by the end of the run, but it was a fairly miserable experience overall. I've read repeatedly that you shouldn't stretch cold muscles, so am I just doomed to suffer at the beginning of each run?

Well you shouldn't stretch cold muscles for sure, you'll end up injuring yourself. Basically a cold muscle isn't as flexible as a warmed up one, and therefore you're more prone to over stretch and cause injury.

Two options you kind of have to stretch before hand are to either go for a 5-10 minute walk/slow jog first, then stretch. Or the other option would be to stretch dynamically instead (intead of static stretch which is when you stand still and do stretches) of which is to kind of do exagerrated movements as you walk around. Example would be to lift your kneeds higher than you normally would while walking around, do some light bouncing up and down, some arm circles, neck rolls.

 

[lerxst]

Doctor yesterday thankfully indicated no stress fracture in sore left foot. "You just have an angry tendon."

Thank you. I could almost see my season go up in flames. Said I could run against after pain is gone plus two days.

My question, now after the fact, is what is the benchmark. It doesn't hurt now as in pain streaking through foot but I can feel it there...almost like it's stiff.

Should I wait completely till I don't feel anything in foot or is stiff okay to move forward...cautiously?

 

[wdwpluto]

Doctor yesterday thankfully indicated no stress fracture in sore left foot. "You just have an angry tendon."

Thank you. I could almost see my season go up in flames. Said I could run against after pain is gone plus two days.

My question, now after the fact, is what is the benchmark. It doesn't hurt now as in pain streaking through foot but I can feel it there...almost like it's stiff.

Should I wait completely till I don't feel anything in foot or is stiff okay to move forward...cautiously?

Yay! If it was me, I'd move cautiously. I'd rather take a slightly longer break now than a short one now and end up needing another one later because I'd rushed back. Not that I did that last year with my IT band problems or anything

 

[lerxst]

Yay! If it was me, I'd move cautiously. I'd rather take a slightly longer break now than a short one now and end up needing another one later because I'd rushed back. Not that I did that last year with my IT band problems or anything

And sadly I know that. Why is it so much easier to give that advice than follow it?

 

[ironz]

And sadly I know that. Why is it so much easier to give that advice than follow it?

It's a hard lesson to deal with, that's why!
But I am so glad for you it is not a stress fracture, and thanks for getting back to us...I was wondering.
Have you thought about doing water running to substitute for any of your running? Takes the stress of the pounding off once or twice a week....
You can google it and find plenty of resources.

I had a stress fx going into Goofy 2010, and did only short runs on land, and lots of water running. Made it through the races with a conservative run/walk plan (3 min run/2 min walk), though I did keep my foot in a boot the days leading into the race and for a few weeks after. Not that yours is a stress fx, but to make the point that the water running helped allow me to maintain my fitness when I couldn't pound on the foot anymore.
Biking also something to consider.

 

[PRmamiDEdos]

I would rest it and not mess with it. Hope you feel better soon.


Had a bad15 mile run yesterday. My son's school called to say he wasn't feeling well a little after mile 8 and then kept calling and I had to keep stopping to talk. I was five miles from my car and trying to get there as fast as possible. I was able to get hold of my friend who picked him up and by that point my muscles had started to tighten. I was trying to stretch it out but wound up walking the last 4.5 miles. I was in such a bad mood by the time I got to him and when I saw he was laughing and having a good time, it made it worse. Ugh.

1/2 marathon in two weeks so I'm going to start shortening my runs. How short should my long runs be?

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[Lindsey2065]

Just ran my first 12 miles ever this morning. Felt great but my legs were definitely feeling it around 10.5 miles. I know I still have a lot of training left before the full, but is there anything particular you eat 1/2 way through marathons to keep you going??? My energy and breathing felt great, it was just my legs felt heavy. I consumed a whole shot block and had another one with me but just felt like I would get nauseous taking another one. I really wanted a peanut butter sandwich but didn't have one with me.

 

[Qltrgrl2]

Just ran my first 12 miles ever this morning. Felt great but my legs were definitely feeling it around 10.5 miles. I know I still have a lot of training left before the full, but is there anything particular you eat 1/2 way through marathons to keep you going??? My energy and breathing felt great, it was just my legs felt heavy. I consumed a whole shot block and had another one with me but just felt like I would get nauseous taking another one. I really wanted a peanut butter sandwich but didn't have one with me.

I eat peanut butter on an English muffin and a banana before my long runs. You may want to try something like that before you go out if you felt hungry during your run and were thinking about food! It takes a bit of experimenting before you will know what works best. Good luck training!

 

[Lindsey2065]

I eat peanut butter on an English muffin and a banana before my long runs. You may want to try something like that before you go out if you felt hungry during your run and were thinking about food! It takes a bit of experimenting before you will know what works best. Good luck training!

I didn't really feel hungry. Just like my legs were going to give out but that could just be because I haven't worked up to the high mileage yet. I will try eating peanut butter before though next week. Just wondering if there is anything special any one eats halfway through to help make your legs move. Lol

 

[FFigawi]

Just wondering if there is anything special any one eats halfway through to help make your legs move. Lol

As Charles is fond of saying, we're all an experiment of one. Long runs aren't just for training your legs to go the distance, they're also where you train your brain and the rest of your body too. Keep experimenting with your fueling until you find something that works for you. Also, since it takes anywhere from 10-30 minutes for a gel to kick in, be sure you eat something before your legs aren't moving. That'll help them from ever getting to that point.

Personally, I start fueling about 60-90 minutes into a marathon and then again every 45 minutes or so after that. I start with goo, switch to bloks, and finish off with sport beans because eating the same thing over and over takes away my appetite. For a half, I have one gel after an hour and that gets me through.

 

[kimmiepcft]

I didn't really feel hungry. Just like my legs were going to give out but that could just be because I haven't worked up to the high mileage yet. I will try eating peanut butter before though next week. Just wondering if there is anything special any one eats halfway through to help make your legs move. Lol

I *try* to eat beforehand, but am not usually hungry. I have BelVita cookies, they are dry and bland-ish so they are easier to eat. I bring sports beans and start eating them 4 at a time every mile after about mile 5, until I finish.

 

[RunRookie]

I would rest it and not mess with it. Hope you feel better soon.

Had a bad15 mile run yesterday. My son's school called to say he wasn't feeling well a little after mile 8 and then kept calling and I had to keep stopping to talk. I was five miles from my car and trying to get there as fast as possible. I was able to get hold of my friend who picked him up and by that point my muscles had started to tighten. I was trying to stretch it out but wound up walking the last 4.5 miles. I was in such a bad mood by the time I got to him and when I saw he was laughing and having a good time, it made it worse. Ugh.

1/2 marathon in two weeks so I'm going to start shortening my runs. How short should my long runs be?

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Since you are basically tapering towards the 1/2, I would say plan for Long Runs of a 10 miler, then a 6 miler, then the race itself.

 

[lerxst]

Biking also something to consider.

Biking is what I resorted today. I have a bike setup in garage so I am at home. Put on the sweat jacket and churned out 35 mins on bike at significant pace. Just to be save, after ride, wrapped my "sore" foot in ice packs.

At least will keep cardio up so I have plenty in the tank when can hit the road.

Hoping this doestn take too long...wine and dine approaching fast. If I have to bail on that to keep on track for January I will. Crossing fingers.

 

[cobbler]

My training run went fantastic today
I did a local half marathon because I'm supposed to do 13 miles anyway. Well at mile 7 the thunderstorm started. Mile 8 they called it. Couldn't get a shuttle or van or whatever that was empty until I reached mile 10. At that point I was like screw it & finished the remainder in rain, thunder, lightening (which I had already gone through for 3 miles at this point) & added some wind, sleet, & hail to the mix.

Kicker is I had a PR of 10 minutes & have no official time to prove it. It was below the 2:45 mark (2:44:19 - they left the clock out but pulled the mats) & one I could send to Disney. Oh well, at least I'm getting better.

 

[Qltrgrl2]

My training run went fantastic today
I did a local half marathon because I'm supposed to do 13 miles anyway. Well at mile 7 the thunderstorm started. Mile 8 they called it. Couldn't get a shuttle or van or whatever that was empty until I reached mile 10. At that point I was like screw it & finished the remainder in rain, thunder, lightening (which I had already gone through for 3 miles at this point) & added some wind, sleet, & hail to the mix.

Kicker is I had a PR of 10 minutes & have no official time to prove it. It was below the 2:45 mark (2:44:19 - they left the clock out but pulled the mats) & one I could send to Disney. Oh well, at least I'm getting better.

Good job in such tough conditions....too bad it will not count, but perhaps you can try another before your Disney race. Did others run to the finish as well?

 

[cobbler]

Good job in such tough conditions....too bad it will not count, but perhaps you can try another before your Disney race. Did others run to the finish as well?

Yes others finished as well but as the mileage increased & got closer to the end, more & more dropped & got the shuttle. I don't blame them though as it was tough. I think there were 6 of us left at the end. It could have been more but we didn't see anyone behind us. The race had just over 1000 at the start & there were only 15 official finishers before they called it.

 

[ColleenG]

I ran a really great 5 miles today. I had taken a few days off because my shins were getting a little "touchy". I was able to keep a good pace (for me, under a 12 mm) and threw in some fartleks in the 9:30ish mm range. I was psyched to be able to maintain that pace for a bit and not feel like I was going to keel over! Amazing what cooler temps and less humidity can do. I guess all my sticky summmer training is paying off!

 

[kimmiepcft]

I was able to keep a good pace (for me, under a 12 mm) and threw in some fartleks in the 9:30ish mm range. I was psyched to be able to maintain that pace for a bit and not feel like I was going to keel over!

you go girl!!!

 

[KrazyPete]

you might want to check out the Disdads. They are having a convention at Disney that week and I think there are some guys that are looking for roomates. They have a section here under Disney For Families section of this website. Even if you don't end up rooming with them, they're a good group of guys so feel free to virtually drop by.

Will do. Thanks!

 

[Sabeking]

My training run went fantastic today
I did a local half marathon because I'm supposed to do 13 miles anyway. Well at mile 7 the thunderstorm started. Mile 8 they called it. Couldn't get a shuttle or van or whatever that was empty until I reached mile 10. At that point I was like screw it & finished the remainder in rain, thunder, lightening (which I had already gone through for 3 miles at this point) & added some wind, sleet, & hail to the mix.

Kicker is I had a PR of 10 minutes & have no official time to prove it. It was below the 2:45 mark (2:44:19 - they left the clock out but pulled the mats) & one I could send to Disney. Oh well, at least I'm getting better.

That is what I call charecter/quality training! Good job!