Official WDW Marathon Weekend 2013 Thread

[cewait]

I noticed that there is about a .50 mile difference (faster) when I use it on the treadmill compared to what the treadmill says. Maybe it's because I have a shorter stride and take more steps?

Could be one of two things.... The foot pod is not accurate or the treadmill is not accurate. Ok a third, neither is accurate. If you are comfortable with your outdoor distances being correct, then the treadmill is off. A half mph is on the high side, depending on where you are speed wise, but not out of the realm of possibility. I find that most mills are slightly slow (indicated versus actual); usually in the 10-30 second per mile range.

 

[John VN]

Is anybody here currently training for/competing in triathlons? I am doing a sprint tri in a couple of weeks, and my first half Ironman in September, so that is my focus right now. I am figuring that I'll be pretty well conditioned after the half Ironman, was going to take a week or so off, then pick up with the marathon training in October. Just wondering if anyone else was trying to combine tri training and marathon training.

I have my first Sprint tri this Saturday. Just hoping to make it out of the water since I only began swimming in March. It's my way to celebrated my 62nd Birthday which is today. For next year I'm planning on a 1/2IM tri. Did a 1/2IM Duathlon this March. The training for these events is just a continuation of my regular routine of biking and walking/jogging/running.

 

[Terapin]

I have my first Sprint tri this Saturday. Just hoping to make it out of the water since I only began swimming in March. It's my way to celebrated my 62nd Birthday which is today. For next year I'm planning on a 1/2IM tri. Did a 1/2IM Duathlon this March. The training for these events is just a continuation of my regular routine of biking and walking/jogging/running.

Happy birthday!!!

 

[kimmiepcft]

Happy Birthday John!

 

[Terapin]

Can you help with my planning?

We are flying in on Thursday night. Planning to attend the expo and take it easy Friday with swimming and lounging around. Saturday I am running the half as my target race with my sister. Planning on the runner tent splurge so I imagine we will hang out there after the race for a bit. Assuming I am in a corral towards the back (planning on submitting a 10k to support a 2:20 finish) I am assuming I would be finishing around 8:30am for the half, and wanting to hang around the tent eating and resting until about 10am. Does that sound right? And then back to the resort for rest and relaxation, and an early bedtime.

Now because I aim big (and am slightly foolish!) I am planning on a very gentle run/walk for the marathon the next day, and hanging around the tent again afterwards, until 1 or 2.

Our flight back home is at 7pm and is domestic, so I am assuming ME will pick us up at the Contemporary around 4pm. So all I have to do is get from the race tent to the Contemp. My sister will have dealt with our bags.

I assume I will be very stiff and sore getting home. Tylenol? It is mostly sitting with brief periods of walking. Any suggestions?

In retrospect we should have stayed another day, but it is done.

Any tips for this very busy weekend? Food suggestions? Recovery suggestions? Reservation windows are opening soon so I'd like to have a rough time line of the weekend before then.

I have a half marathon and the TOT 10 miler in Sept and Oct so will have gleaned some practice from those races around how to manage myself before, during and after the race, but won't be so challenged by traveling so soon after the race.

Thanks!

 

[cewait]

Can you help with my planning?

We are flying in on Thursday night. Planning to attend the expo and take it easy Friday with swimming and lounging around. Saturday I am running the half as my target race with my sister. Planning on the runner tent splurge so I imagine we will hang out there after the race for a bit. Assuming I am in a corral towards the back (planning on submitting a 10k to support a 2:20 finish) I am assuming I would be finishing around 8:30am for the half, and wanting to hang around the tent eating and resting until about 10am. Does that sound right? And then back to the resort for rest and relaxation, and an early bedtime.

Now because I aim big (and am slightly foolish!) I am planning on a very gentle run/walk for the marathon the next day, and hanging around the tent again afterwards, until 1 or 2.

Our flight back home is at 7pm and is domestic, so I am assuming ME will pick us up at the Contemporary around 4pm. So all I have to do is get from the race tent to the Contemp. My sister will have dealt with our bags.

I assume I will be very stiff and sore getting home. Tylenol? It is mostly sitting with brief periods of walking. Any suggestions?

In retrospect we should have stayed another day, but it is done.

Any tips for this very busy weekend? Food suggestions? Recovery suggestions? Reservation windows are opening soon so I'd like to have a rough time line of the weekend before then.

I have a half marathon and the TOT 10 miler in Sept and Oct so will have gleaned some practice from those races around how to manage myself before, during and after the race, but won't be so challenged by traveling so soon after the race.

Thanks!

Honestly, I would not spend that much time in the tent post race, either day. On Saturday, I would head in, have a small snack then get back to the CR and clean up. I would then hit my big meal of the day in preparation for Goofy. I would spend time in a park or walking a resort to stay loose. If you are budget challenged and do not want to spend $$ on a pass, walk from the CR to the MK monorail station, then pass that station and walk all the way to the creek; like you would be heading to the GF. Its a nice 5k walk on all the memorial pavers.

For meals, look at the GF Cafe Saturday afternoon/evening. The chef (as all sit down places will) has a pasta special, but will also have enough stuff to prepare whatever you wish.

I think your strategy is sound for the race... Half as the goal and marathon as the filler for Goofy. Note that makes moving Saturday more important to keep legs loose. Hydrate Saturday. You will feel stiffer than normal on Sunday AM, but the hill at mile 1 will help loosen the legs. Also, you will feel the half a little early on Sunday, but it will still be very manageable.

If this is your first mary... expect your kidneys to not function well for a couple hours post run. You should not get too far from the area until they recover. You will know when that happens Use Tylenol and BioFreeze post race to aid with the stiffness. I would walk as much as you feel comfortable. Wear you medal!

Finally, I am a big believer in compression tights/hose post race. With you getting on a flight, I would really suggest them. While the likelihood of issues are small, they will support the tired muscle and help lessen the micor bleeds, eliminating some of the soreness.

 

[Terapin]

Honestly, I would not spend that much time in the tent post race, either day. On Saturday, I would head in, have a small snack then get back to the CR and clean up. I would then hit my big meal of the day in preparation for Goofy. I would spend time in a park or walking a resort to stay loose. If you are budget challenged and do not want to spend $$ on a pass, walk from the CR to the MK monorail station, then pass that station and walk all the way to the creek; like you would be heading to the GF. Its a nice 5k walk on all the memorial pavers.

For meals, look at the GF Cafe Saturday afternoon/evening. The chef (as all sit down places will) has a pasta special, but will also have enough stuff to prepare whatever you wish.

I think your strategy is sound for the race... Half as the goal and marathon as the filler for Goofy. Note that makes moving Saturday more important to keep legs loose. Hydrate Saturday. You will feel stiffer than normal on Sunday AM, but the hill at mile 1 will help loosen the legs. Also, you will feel the half a little early on Sunday, but it will still be very manageable.

If this is your first mary... expect your kidneys to not function well for a couple hours post run. You should not get too far from the area until they recover. You will know when that happens Use Tylenol and BioFreeze post race to aid with the stiffness. I would walk as much as you feel comfortable. Wear you medal!

Finally, I am a big believer in compression tights/hose post race. With you getting on a flight, I would really suggest them. While the likelihood of issues are small, they will support the tired muscle and help lessen the micor bleeds, eliminating some of the soreness.

That is so VERY helpful. Thank you so much! I do have compression socks (I have the CEP brand) and like them. I have chosen to use little socklets in the heat and humidity, but I think I will start up with them again, especially for my longer runs and afterwards. That is very good advice, too, about using them for the plane ride home.

I got some advice to start doing back to back runs on the weekend closer to the race. My current schedule does have a short 'steady' run on Saturday and my LSD on Sunday. I think after my half in October I will keep that up but aim for a longer Saturday run. Does that sound like a good plan?

Thanks for the schedule help - as a newbie to longer races it is very helpful!

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

To add to Coach's advice, you can use BioFreeze DURING the races as well, at the med tents.

 

[Terapin]

To add to Coach's advice, you can use BioFreeze DURING the races as well, at the med tents.

Does it really help, or does it just feel good?

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Does it really help, or does it just feel good?

I have no idea, but if it feels like it works, that means it works for me.

 

[PRmamiDEdos]

Does it really help, or does it just feel good?

I have no idea, but if it feels like it works, that means it works for me.

I have the spray and I can't live without it. I get bad back pain and it loosens it up.

 

[cewait]

That is so VERY helpful. Thank you so much! I do have compression socks (I have the CEP brand) and like them. I have chosen to use little socklets in the heat and humidity, but I think I will start up with them again, especially for my longer runs and afterwards. That is very good advice, too, about using them for the plane ride home.

I got some advice to start doing back to back runs on the weekend closer to the race. My current schedule does have a short 'steady' run on Saturday and my LSD on Sunday. I think after my half in October I will keep that up but aim for a longer Saturday run. Does that sound like a good plan?

Thanks for the schedule help - as a newbie to longer races it is very helpful!

I am not a huge fan of back to back runs. I would tell a first time Goofy runner to schedule 3-5 in just to get a feel for dead legs. I prefer to run hard on Thursday then run Saturday long.

To add to Coach's advice, you can use BioFreeze DURING the races as well, at the med tents.

Just don't eat it! First year I saw it on course a runner was asking in very broken english if it were a gel.

Most definitely it is a great little adder for muscles that are becoming fatigued. I honestly do not think it adds anything other than a mental improvement, but the chilling effect just after putting it on the legs is tremendous.

Oh, and if you do apply in race, avoid wiping sweat from the brow - It will get into your eyes and sting them.

 

[disney_runner]

I am not a huge fan of back to back runs. I would tell a first time Goofy runner to schedule 3-5 in just to get a feel for dead legs. I prefer to run hard on Thursday then run Saturday long.

Thanks for that little tidbit. I'm a first time Goofy, 1 year after knee surgery (torn meniscus), and it still acts up and gets sore every now again for no rhyme or reason. In the last year I've run 2 Half's and and have another coming up Sept. 1, so I'm training now. I wasn't looking forward to doing even 1 back to back come December because I never know if it'll be a good knee day or a bad one. I like your idea of a hard Thursday run and then a day of rest before a long run. I think I'll be using that method.

When push comes to shove for the actual Goofy, I'll do what I have to do, and bring the knee brace just in case! I may actually have to visit the medical tent for the first time this January. For ice. Thanks!

 

[McDuck]

Advice please. I have had moderate pain issues with my left knee for a couple years since slipping and falling in the laundry room when my almost 3-year old was under a year old. I aggravated it yesterday morning squatting at Hobby Lobby (curse you 99¢ pattern sale) and seriously had to ice it after completing my Level 2 of the 30 Day Shred workout. It's pretty stiff and painful, hurts to straighten after being bent, hurts to bend after being straight. It hurts above the knee cap and for the first time is painful when pressed on. Googling sounds like quadricep tendonitis. Obviously taking a couple days to ice and rest. Is this killing my dream of any running in the Half? (meaning this is the third injury interrupting my training so far) Secondarily, I can't seem to find any advice on the best compression wrap for it. KT Tape has been suggested, but which directions do I follow? Thanks!

 

[Mickeyfan74]

Honestly, I would not spend that much time in the tent post race, either day. On Saturday, I would head in, have a small snack then get back to the CR and clean up. I would then hit my big meal of the day in preparation for Goofy. I would spend time in a park or walking a resort to stay loose. If you are budget challenged and do not want to spend $$ on a pass, walk from the CR to the MK monorail station, then pass that station and walk all the way to the creek; like you would be heading to the GF. Its a nice 5k walk on all the memorial pavers.

For meals, look at the GF Cafe Saturday afternoon/evening. The chef (as all sit down places will) has a pasta special, but will also have enough stuff to prepare whatever you wish.

I think your strategy is sound for the race... Half as the goal and marathon as the filler for Goofy. Note that makes moving Saturday more important to keep legs loose. Hydrate Saturday. You will feel stiffer than normal on Sunday AM, but the hill at mile 1 will help loosen the legs. Also, you will feel the half a little early on Sunday, but it will still be very manageable.

If this is your first mary... expect your kidneys to not function well for a couple hours post run. You should not get too far from the area until they recover. You will know when that happens Use Tylenol and BioFreeze post race to aid with the stiffness. I would walk as much as you feel comfortable. Wear you medal!

Finally, I am a big believer in compression tights/hose post race. With you getting on a flight, I would really suggest them. While the likelihood of issues are small, they will support the tired muscle and help lessen the micor bleeds, eliminating some of the soreness.

Coach - I see your note on compression tights - Last year was my first 2012 Half and I was pretty hydrated in the AM B4 the race but I may have drank too much water. Stopped 3 times for needed bathroom breaks. Half way along I was feeling swelling of my calves. When I was done I really felt swollen. As a beginner should I also consider the socks and watch my water intake?

Thanks,
Colleen

 

[cewait]

Advice please. I have had moderate pain issues with my left knee for a couple years since slipping and falling in the laundry room when my almost 3-year old was under a year old. I aggravated it yesterday morning squatting at Hobby Lobby (curse you 99¢ pattern sale) and seriously had to ice it after completing my Level 2 of the 30 Day Shred workout. It's pretty stiff and painful, hurts to straighten after being bent, hurts to bend after being straight. It hurts above the knee cap and for the first time is painful when pressed on. Googling sounds like quadricep tendonitis. Obviously taking a couple days to ice and rest. Is this killing my dream of any running in the Half? (meaning this is the third injury interrupting my training so far) Secondarily, I can't seem to find any advice on the best compression wrap for it. KT Tape has been suggested, but which directions do I follow? Thanks!

RICE - Rest, Ice, Compression and Elevation. Take the week off. Ice the knee a couple times a day and wrap it in an elastic bandage or place a neoprene sleeve over the knee for compression. If you feel the need, take a NSAID or Tylenol for the inflammation and or pain.

If the knee is not better after the weekend OR it gets worse through this week, get into a doctor. They will be the only one who can give you a valid diagnosis.

Here are a couple links of decent over-the-counter compression items


Old school Ace Bandage
http://www.acebrand.com/wps/portal/...0000_nid=QT6SF0J2RWgsKG7SM2H484glCTDZ4DVWHVbl

Knee Sleeve

http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/ch...port-with-open-patella/ID=prod2572415-product

Note There are also sleeves with flaps to support and align the patella - I would avoid these without a doctor looking at the knee. Also, there are solid sleeves without a patella cut out... I am not sure I wold use one since is presses the knee cap - though I would choose it over the flap style that attempt to align the patella.

 

[cewait]

Coach - I see your note on compression tights - Last year was my first 2012 Half and I was pretty hydrated in the AM B4 the race but I may have drank too much water. Stopped 3 times for needed bathroom breaks. Half way along I was feeling swelling of my calves. When I was done I really felt swollen. As a beginner should I also consider the socks and watch my water intake?

Thanks,
Colleen

Stay tuned for a coach's corner that I cannot seem to get written.

Best short piece of advice is to understand your sweat rate. Weigh pre-run and post run. If you are gaining weight, you are over hydrating....

There are several things that create swelling. Many of them center on electrolytic balance. Over hydrating can be a cause. The 3 potty breaks would tend to confirm that suspicion.

Stay tuned

 

[irishtwins1112]

I am using the Galloway Beginner Marathon Training Program for the full in January. Before I registered for the full, I had registered for a half on November 11th. This weekend there is a 20 mile long run for the full training. How should I handle that? Should I do 7 miles on Saturday and then the half on Sunday? Thoughts?

 

[McDuck]

RICE - Rest, Ice, Compression and Elevation. Take the week off. Ice the knee a couple times a day and wrap it in an elastic bandage or place a neoprene sleeve over the knee for compression. If you feel the need, take a NSAID or Tylenol for the inflammation and or pain.

If the knee is not better after the weekend OR it gets worse through this week, get into a doctor. They will be the only one who can give you a valid diagnosis.

Here are a couple links of decent over-the-counter compression items

Old school Ace Bandage
http://www.acebrand.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/AceBrand/Home/Products/Catalog/?PC_7_RJH9U523007440I2J5O2R30225000000_nid=QT6SF0J2RWgsKG7SM2H484glCTDZ4DVWHVbl

Knee Sleeve

http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/champion-professional-neoprene-knee-support-with-open-patella/ID=prod2572415-product

Note There are also sleeves with flaps to support and align the patella - I would avoid these without a doctor looking at the knee. Also, there are solid sleeves without a patella cut out... I am not sure I wold use one since is presses the knee cap - though I would choose it over the flap style that attempt to align the patella.

Thank you very much, Coach!!! I've asked my hubby to pick up a neoprene open patella on his way home and in the meantime have tried my best at duplicating the ACE wrap technique from their site. Already helping a wee bit, will keep up with the rest of the recommendations and keep an eye on it. Hopefully can be back in the saddle next week.

 

[MightyDuck001]

I am using the Galloway Beginner Marathon Training Program for the full in January. Before I registered for the full, I had registered for a half on November 11th. This weekend there is a 20 mile long run for the full training. How should I handle that? Should I do 7 miles on Saturday and then the half on Sunday? Thoughts?

I have a similar problem--I was just going to shuffle the long run for the following/previous week.