***Official*** Pandora: The World of Avatar Information Thread

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Wow, five hours, that may be a record.
Yeah, having the DVC period and the D23 period essentially back-to-back made it nice. I asked at the end of the DVC period (9-11) if I had to leave and come back in for D23 at 12-2 and the CM I asked actually laughed. She was like "no, that'd be silly. Just stick around and enjoy it."
 
If I'm remembering correctly, about a hundred pages back on this thread, you were something of a "Pandora Skeptic". Sounds like the land has convinced you now that you've been inside. Am I reading you correctly?

You've got the wrong guy. :)

I was fascinated by the land when I was there on Monday. My only knock was with the first FoP pre-show video; I thought everything else was just stunning. I had a few posts dedicated to discussing the awkwardness of that video. Maybe that's what you're thinking of? There was a guy around that same part of the thread who had some rather strong opinions that would cause me to think he was a skeptic, but that was not me.

After my Friday trip, I still find that pre-show to be a bit odd and even heard others commenting about it. I'll admit it didn't strike me as weird as when I first saw it though.
 
it will be interesting to see the criteria for fp vs standby loading.
Will they have a dedicated fp room?
I know for a fact (ex husband used to work at TSMM) that before the 3rd track was added, they loaded 10 people from fp for every 1 person in standby. (at least during the time he worked there)
I can totally see fp line to be around 45 minutes long from entering to loading and riding

45 I can definitely see - just seems like it would be a logistics disaster if FP slots run into each other
 
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PHOTOS: Special Wheelchair & Other Accommodations Allow Guests with Disabilities to Ride Flight of Passage in Pandora – The World of AVATAR
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For the last few days, the internet has been abuzz with talk about how “unaccommodating” the attractions in Pandora: The World of AVATAR are for guests in wheelchairs. Well, after doing some research during our last visit to the planet, it appears that they are just as accommodating as other rides at Walt Disney World.

After reading more than enough pieces about these issues, I decided I wanted to see what was actually going on at the attraction, rather than speculation without first-hand experience. We spoke to cast members at the attractions to get all of the following information, so it should be as accurate as possible.


The link chair vehicles for the AVATAR Flight of Passage attraction in Pandora

The AVATAR Flight of Passage ride system is unique and simply could not accommodate a wheelchair, but wheelchair guests can transfer to ride. Transferring to ride a thrill ride at Walt Disney World is far from uncommon, as less-intense thrill rides such as Soarin’, the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, and Test Track all require such practices. Mind you, these are not decades-old attractions, but all rides that have opened since 1999, in a more modern age where theme parks often have guests requiring accommodation in mind.

At Flight of Passage, guests in a manual wheelchair can stay in their chair until they get to the ride vehicle, as the queue and pre-show experiences are fully accessible. The wheelchair can then pull right beside the Flight of Passage “link chair” seat and transferring will require 1-2 steps.

Those who need additional assistance transferring can also make use of a special wheelchair that is available. This wheelchair has the ability to elevate the guest in the seat via manual foot pump, similar to a barber’s chair. Cast members we spoke to at the attraction said they were able to load guests from this wheelchair effectively with little problem.


Special wheelchair to aid guests in transferring onto the Flight of Passage attraction in Pandora


Special wheelchair to aid guests in transferring onto the Flight of Passage attraction in Pandora

As with other attractions, guests needing to transfer are brought in before other guests are loaded so that they can take their time and have privacy as they move from their chair into the ride vehicle.

Guests in ECVs or motorized scooters will leave their ECVs before the pre-show areas and have the option of walking the rest of the way or using a manual wheelchair (or again, the special one pictured above, if need be). The distance from the door of the first pre-show room to the ride vehicle is about 50 steps, but also requires several minutes of standing.

Meanwhile, at the Na’vi River Journey ride, while there are no “wheelchair boats” that such a device could simply roll right onto, they do have a multi-tiered set of steps that allow guests to more easily descend into the boat. The rows on the boat are quite large as well, making it easier to assist a guest who must transfer into the vehicle. It’s not perfect, but it isn’t terribly complicated either. Transferring from a wheelchair is a necessity at many slow-moving Walt Disney World attractions, including The Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean, and Spaceship Earth.

We hope this helps to clarify the process with factual information rather than vague, broad statements about the process at either attraction. As for concerns about guests with larger dimensions fitting on AVATAR Flight of Passage, we will address those in a separate story later this week.

This is good info - especially about the special wheel chair that can rise up

I still am a bit surprised they didn't make the river ride wheel chair accessible - some guest literally cannot transfer at all so would have been nice if they could ride at least one of the new attractions
 

DH, DGD and I sat down to watch Avatar tonight. She watched for the first time, it was the first time DH and I have seen it in since it came out. And the first time we'd see this particular version with 15 extra minutes. We are all very excited to see it all for ourselves in a week

my daughter and I watched it too for the first time yesterday. I rented it from the library, didn't want to pay $15-20, if it was a stinker. We both enjoyed it.
 
Last, but not least, I had to buy a banshee from Windtraders. If you're going to get one of these, or honestly anything at Windtraders, give yourself plenty of time. The place was packed today, and I was in there at 10 a.m.

I'm hoping to get one in the middle of July, I just hope they have them. I would hope that Disney would know that these are going to be popular and have made enough for the demand.
 
I'm hoping to get one in the middle of July, I just hope they have them. I would hope that Disney would know that these are going to be popular and have made enough for the demand.
I would assume that's been part of the testing. They know exactly how many people are entering Pandora each day and how many banshees they're selling. From there it's a simple matter of math to project that out to a full-sized crowd (well, not that simple, but this is why TWDC has people paid to solve these math problems. I just make words about sports appear on the internet).
 
I am guessing the "test chair" will have working restraints?

Stupid question I know but without it having working restraints it would be pointless.

They probably won't lock but a light will change to let you know you are good. That's hiw all other test seats work.
 
it will be interesting to see the criteria for fp vs standby loading.
Will they have a dedicated fp room?
I know for a fact (ex husband used to work at TSMM) that before the 3rd track was added, they loaded 10 people from fp for every 1 person in standby. (at least during the time he worked there)
I can totally see fp line to be around 45 minutes long from entering to loading and riding

45 I can definitely see - just seems like it would be a logistics disaster if FP slots run into each other
Forgive me, I am an engineer and an analytical type. ;)

This makes no sense to me. If they were to use a 10 to 1 SB to FP ratio on FoP (or on any ride), the length of the SB line would be irrelevant. The only number that would matter is how many FPs were allotted for that hour. And unless Disney allotted a larger number of FPs than normal (say than what it would for TSMM) then there would be no "back-up" for 45 minutes or any back-up at all more than the usual back-up for other FP rides. :teacher:

Now if CMs were pressured into say a 20 to 1 ratio because of the SB line length, then that of course would matter for FP wait time. But if they did that, then the FP line would not move as it should and it would just keep growing longer all day long. :crazy2:

:wizard:
 
For those who have ridden FoP - can I double check something with you? This is the photo from the article about how those in wheelchairs can transfer.
FoP ride vehicle 1.jpg

Where I placed the red circle - is your foot going UNDER there and then your shin is resting on the pad where I put the blue circle? With the darkness and shadows it's harder to see and I want to make sure there is more room for your foot to move forward. And then where I put the yellow circle, that is the leg restraint that swings behind you leg? I've seen many picture of the ride vehicle but I have only seen photos taken from side and this picture is a better angle.

I'm going to place the original photo below here so you can see it without all my circles.
FoP ride vehicle.jpg
 

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For those who have ridden FoP - can I double check something with you? This is the photo from the article about how those in wheelchairs can transfer.

Where I placed the red circle - is your foot going UNDER there and then your shin is resting on the pad where I put the blue circle? With the darkness and shadows it's harder to see and I want to make sure there is more room for your foot to move forward. And then where I put the yellow circle, that is the leg restraint that swings behind you leg? I've seen many picture of the ride vehicle but I have only seen photos taken from side and this picture is a better angle.

Does this picture help?

FlightOfPassage-preshow-0513017-3.jpg

Your feet wind up behind your knees - so a little farther back than you are imagining. My shins were not resting on anything, but my knees were against padding on the inside. You are correct with the yellow circle...I think. Hard to tell due to the darkness.
 
Forgive me, I am an engineer and an analytical type. ;)

This makes no sense to me. If they were to use a 10 to 1 SB to FP ratio on FoP (or on any ride), the length of the SB line would be irrelevant. The only number that would matter is how many FPs were allotted for that hour. And unless Disney allotted a larger number of FPs than normal (say than what it would for TSMM) then there would be no "back-up" for 45 minutes or any back-up at all more than the usual back-up for other FP rides. :teacher:

Now if CMs were pressured into say a 20 to 1 ratio because of the SB line length, then that of course would matter for FP wait time. But if they did that, then the FP line would not move as it should and it would just keep growing longer all day long. :crazy2:

:wizard:
let's say the ride is operating at full capacity and they load fp and sb in the regular way (any ratio, maybe a room for fp only, etc)
Walk up from front entrance to pre loading area: 5 minutes if no one is taking their time taking pictures and if there's no backed up line for fp.
You're on hold in the pre loading room for about 5 to 10 minutes, again if everything is running smoothly
Load into the first pre show room: 10 minutes total of load and movie
Load into second pre show room: 10 minutes total of load and movie
Load into ride vehicle, safety checks and actual ride: 10 minutes
This is if everything is running smoothly
 
Does this picture help?

FlightOfPassage-preshow-0513017-3.jpg

Your feet wind up behind your knees. My shins were not resting on anything.

I do appreciate the response, but honestly that photo does not help. In the other photo, I see pads on the pieces coming up to your back (not engaged I see it by the floor), the back of your legs and then where I placed my blue circle. I assumed that pad would be for your knees or top of your shins, but you said your shins weren't resting on anything.
 
For those who have ridden FoP - can I double check something with you? This is the photo from the article about how those in wheelchairs can transfer.
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Where I placed the red circle - is your foot going UNDER there and then your shin is resting on the pad where I put the blue circle? With the darkness and shadows it's harder to see and I want to make sure there is more room for your foot to move forward. And then where I put the yellow circle, that is the leg restraint that swings behind you leg? I've seen many picture of the ride vehicle but I have only seen photos taken from side and this picture is a better angle.

I'm going to place the original photo below here so you can see it without all my circles.
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not sure if this is of any help, but in the end of this video there's a good look at the ride vehicles. I'm not sure exactly where the leg restrains come from though
 
not sure if this is of any help, but in the end of this video there's a good look at the ride vehicles. I'm not sure exactly where the leg restrains come from though
Yes, the video did help, a little. Thanks. If I slow it down I can see that your feet would be placed more forward than the "knee pad" things. But now I'm trying to better understand what those "knee pads" are for.
 
I do appreciate the response, but honestly that photo does not help. In the other photo, I see pads on the pieces coming up to your back (not engaged I see it by the floor), the back of your legs and then where I placed my blue circle. I assumed that pad would be for your knees or top of your shins, but you said your shins weren't resting on anything.

I'm not following.

The photo I posted shows the leg restraints in their "deployed" position to give an idea as to the required leg position. My shins weren't resting on anything, but my knees were against the pads near the blue circles. If one were short enough, I suppose they could have the feet farther forward and closer to being directly under the knees so that the shins contact the padding. I had to put my feet behind my knees in order to fit.
 
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