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[Disneylover99]

I think once you try the test seat, you'll change your mind. While it is three points, you're free to move from the waist up. To me, it doesn't really feel like your locked in.

Thanks. I will try the test seat, but man, I have issues. Maybe if I don't look down at the restraints I might be okay. I'm just an average height/weight woman. I'm assuming the restraints won't feel tight?

 

[yulilin3]

Thanks. I will try the test seat, but man, I have issues. Maybe if I don't look down at the restraints I might be okay. I'm just an average height/weight woman. I'm assuming the restraints won't feel tight?

I'm short and over weight and I had wiggle room, i didn't feel restrained at all

 

[Disneylover99]

I'm short and over weight and I had wiggle room, i didn't feel restrained at all

Great! Thanks for the report! I'm going to try to try it.

 

[ErinsMommy]

Has anyone done a POV video of FOP yet??

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

It's not really causing issues. Some people don't fit. That's not an issue. It is going to disappoint some people, but it isn't an issue.

As I've already said in this thread, not everyone will fit every ride. This one seems to have some ODD proportion issues so far. Perhaps not widespread (as far as we can tell right now), but ODD. Who is thinking shin length, shoe size and calf width when they think about fitting in a typical ride?? I'm looking forward to more info on it, and if they do have odd issues like this, they need to clearly post it on the website and post at the ride itself. Period.

I think the question is, is a 3 point restraint the ONLY way to keep someone seated? Not saying NO restraint at all

Same thought here.

My biggest fear with stuff like this - any ride with the more extreme restraints - is when the ride has to stop for some reason or breaks down...I'm fine for a couple min that the ride takes. But don't even want to think about being pinned down and hardly able to move for any length of time.

I thought about this as well. I can't imagine that having 3 separate restrings that have to come into place is not going to cause more issues that a typical ride with one restraint...

 

[yulilin3]

Has anyone done a POV video of FOP yet??

video is not allowed inside FoP

 

[yulilin3]

I wonder if this will make Disney rethink all these restraints on FOP if the vehicle never actually rises or comes off the platform.

I also think all the restraints are more for ride experience than anything else. You are on a Banchee so they want you strapped in to feel like you are on one.

the restraints behind your legs is so that you cannot get up, as you can see the back restraint will not prevent you from getting up if you wanted to

 

[ErinsMommy]

video is not allowed inside FoP

I see YouTube has some up to the point of the actual ride.

 

[yulilin3]

I see YouTube has some up to the point of the actual ride.

yes, you are told right after the second pre show video that no recording or photographing is allowed

 

[FastPasser]

yes, you are told right after the second pre show video that no recording or photographing is allowed

But you know that someone is going to attempt it. It would be an unwise and possibly dangerous thing to do.

 

[CAS239]

Won't be on FOP until the 19th...but regarding the 3 point "restraints". I imagine you have the back one for mainly support and something to lean onto if you need to. Maybe the ride goes up and you lean back? I'm avoiding ride videos so I haven't watched anything.

Then regarding the leg restraints..I imagine they have them due to the leaning. Do they only touch the back of your legs, or do they come around your leg more than what that thermal looking picture shows? If they come around more, I imagine it's to help hold people on the banshee. If it leans like that of a arcade motorcycle, then a lot of people's first reactions are to put their feet down from falling. Leg restraints would prevent feet from trying to go down to stabilize themselves and added support on legs would mean people aren't using upper body strength to stay on the seat.

So to me, it seems like the 3 point restraints make perfect sense for what this ride is...unless I'm completely wrong about the ride lol. However I'm sure the imagineers know way more than what I do, but I don't get why the leg restraints don't just stop once they feel your leg, similar to the stitch ride. Maybe it's a safety issue though...technology malfunction and now instead of stopping once it senses someone's legs, it keeps going and then you have an injury.

I'm sure the issue isn't as big as some are thinking though. I'm looking forward to trying it out when I go in shortly

 

[yulilin3]

Won't be on FOP until the 19th...but regarding the 3 point "restraints". I imagine you have the back one for mainly support and something to lean onto if you need to. Maybe the ride goes up and you lean back? I'm avoiding ride videos so I haven't watched anything.

Then regarding the leg restraints..I imagine they have them due to the leaning. Do they only touch the back of your legs, or do they come around your leg more than what that thermal looking picture shows? If they come around more, I imagine it's to help hold people on the banshee. If it leans like that of a arcade motorcycle, then a lot of people's first reactions are to put their feet down from falling. Leg restraints would prevent feet from trying to go down to stabilize themselves and added support on legs would mean people aren't using upper body strength to stay on the seat.

So to me, it seems like the 3 point restraints make perfect sense for what this ride is...unless I'm completely wrong about the ride lol. However I'm sure the imagineers know way more than what I do, but I don't get why the leg restraints don't just stop once they feel your leg, similar to the stitch ride. Maybe it's a safety issue though...technology malfunction and now instead of stopping once it senses someone's legs, it keeps going and then you have an injury.

I'm sure the issue isn't as big as some are thinking though. I'm looking forward to trying it out when I go in shortly

Touching on a couple of your comments:
The back one is for support, just so you don't lean all the way back. This is kind of like the Tron vehicles but you don't have to lean forward so much, actually for me, I was able to sit upright and be fine. You have full range of motion with your hands and arms so holding on to the handlebars is not necessary but it creates the sense that you are holding on to the banshees reins.
The leg restraint is a paddle shape, just like in the picture. your feet are on the ground or you are on tiptoes if you have longer legs, your feet never touch the restraint, the paddle sits higher than your foot.
I think that the leg restraint has to go far enough to have your leg inside the bottom "box" of the vehicle so you cannot get up

 

[giant4203]

Just had a thought in this regard, didn't we have a ride engineer post here a few pages back? Am I the only one that recalls reading something from someone who mentioned being a ride engineer? Wonder if they'd have any insight? I am awful at searching or I'd try to find it

Yeah unfortunately with this ride vehicle configuration the 3 point restraint is needed. The ride is very dynamic. For the record, I'm not a fan of these ride vehicles

 

[hiroMYhero]

Yeah unfortunately with this ride vehicle configuration the 3 point restraint is needed. The ride is very dynamic. For the record, I'm not a fan of these ride vehicles

Any rider tips other than those with longer legs keeping their foot in a tip-toe position?

 

[FastPasser]

regarding the leg restraints..I imagine they have them due to the leaning.

As the leg paddles will not contact the calves of many riders during the ride, in effect they are for containment rather than support. During the tilting motion and because the riders lower leg from the knees down are completely encapsulated and supported by the structure, you're not going anywhere during any side tilting.

 

[ErinsMommy]

But you know that someone is going to attempt it. It would be an unwise and possibly dangerous thing to do.

Doesnt google or someone make cameras in glasses? Not that I'm encouraging anyone to do this or break Disneys rules but someone is likely to.

 

[AngiTN]

I think you have some valid points - particularly around crowd levels. Will the rides seem *as* good if you have waited hours to ride them? Also, just the land itself, will it look as immersive and impressive if you are standing shoulder to shoulder with people and not really able to take in the scene really

I also get what you are saying about the media and being Disney fans - I will say though that there are people like Craig from the DIS who, while a big Disney fan - he is also a huge Universal fan and has been quite critical of Disney of late and views Universal as going beyond Disney in immersiveness, etc. ... so when I see how positive he is about it and how he said Universal needs to take notices, etc. - that carries a lot of weight with me

As to the bold, I don't think there is a ride in all of Disney (or Universal for that matter) that is worth waiting hours for.

 

[giant4203]

Any rider tips other than those with longer legs keeping their foot in a tip-toe position?

Sit as far forward on your chair as possible to get the back restraint where it needs to be...if you're a shorter/average size person, calf size will be a factor. If you're taller and have to sit with your feet in the tip toe position, it'll be inner lower thigh and upper calf dimensions. If you or anyone else you know doesn't fit, I'd recommend taking to guest services... if they receive enough comments maybe they'll go about putting in larger seats for larger riders

 

[FastPasser]

Doesnt google or someone make cameras in glasses? Not that I'm encouraging anyone to do this or break Disneys rules but someone is likely to.

I was referring to Smartphones and regular video cameras, but a video will come out at some point.

 

[ErinsMommy]

the restraints behind your legs is so that you cannot get up, as you can see the back restraint will not prevent you from getting up if you wanted to

Does the restraint close and go around your whole leg? If it's just the back part of your leg not sure I'm following how some can't fit it?