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[wilkeliza]

I'll ask. And everyone will be different proportions so hard to even find out OR even warn with just height or weight.

I think most folks have been able to ride most things at Disney so it's kind of a surprise that a new ride could be a problem. Add to that the lack of W/C options given the character in the movie ........... quite sad.

Yeah. I guess with the wheel chair someone told me well he had to transfer to experience them but my reply was that he at least got to experience it. You would hope there would be some way to have something. Still no clue what transfer option the have.

I just like to be prepared with an idea so I can prepare my travel group. Easier to deal if they know it may not happen ahead of time so they don't get too hyped. Had no issues with gringotts or mummy only The music coaster and Uni and Forbidden Journey so I am really hoping it is ok for 2X guys. I mean if the producer of Avatar rode it you think its about the same.

 

[rteetz]

I'll ask. And everyone will be different proportions so hard to even find out OR even warn with just height or weight.

I think most folks have been able to ride most things at Disney so it's kind of a surprise that a new ride could be a problem. Add to that the lack of W/C options given the character in the movie ........... quite sad.

I don't find it that sad. Yes it's unfortunate that not everyone will be able to ride but universal has several rides that not everyone can ride and has done just fine. It's hard to make a new and unique ride system while be accommodating to every single person. I think Disney did the best they could here while trying to be innovative.

 

[wilkeliza]

I don't find it that sad. Yes it's unfortunate that not everyone will be able to ride but universal has several rides that not everyone can ride and has done just fine. It's hard to make a new and unique ride system while be accommodating to every single person. I think Disney did the best they could here while trying to be innovative.

I think the sad part is how different it all is. Very frustrating to be able to ride one type of restraint but not another and the reasoning being a cosmetic design (as forbidden Journey usually ends up being in my experiences) or that as our world becomes more open they don't think of everyone. I know for Navi people are pretty darn upset because they have the knowledge on how to make a fully accesible boat ride and didn't do it. Heck they could have figured out a way to have the boat merge into the others at launch to not disrupt the ride too much and they didn't.

 

[AtlantaDisneyDreamer]

Any photo pass opportunities on either of these rides? I'd love to have a pic of myself cruisin' on a banshee . . . Or a ride video! I would bet they could make a pretty cool video with FOP- even better than ToT and SDMT.

 

[rteetz]

I think the sad part is how different it all is. Very frustrating to be able to ride one type of restraint but not another and the reasoning being a cosmetic design (as forbidden Journey usually ends up being in my experiences) or that as our world becomes more open they don't think of everyone. I know for Navi people are pretty darn upset because they have the knowledge on how to make a fully accesible boat ride and didn't do it. Heck they could have figured out a way to have the boat merge into the others at launch to not disrupt the ride too much and they didn't.

I understand, the boat ride probably should've been fully accessible. There could be something not told to us that prevented them from doing that. The size of the boat is probably a factor in that. Making a wheelchair accessible boat that size might've not been problematic.

 

[Capang]

I don't find it that sad. Yes it's unfortunate that not everyone will be able to ride but universal has several rides that not everyone can ride and has done just fine. It's hard to make a new and unique ride system while be accommodating to every single person. I think Disney did the best they could here while trying to be innovative.

I think the sad part is how different it all is. Very frustrating to be able to ride one type of restraint but not another and the reasoning being a cosmetic design (as forbidden Journey usually ends up being in my experiences) or that as our world becomes more open they don't think of everyone. I know for Navi people are pretty darn upset because they have the knowledge on how to make a fully accesible boat ride and didn't do it. Heck they could have figured out a way to have the boat merge into the others at launch to not disrupt the ride too much and they didn't.

I grew up going to Cedar Point all the time as it is just down the road from me. It is a great park that always does very well. That being said, if you are a woman over a size 18 or a man over 200 or so you probably won't fit on most any coaster. I've had years where I didn't get to ride. Bummer, yes, but the restraints are made for safety. Saying that they could design it one way but just chose not to is probably not the case. For whatever reason they built it how it worked best. Disney is still, by far, the most accommodating park for people in wheelchairs or guests that are larger. It is a bummer if someone doesn't get to ride, trust me I've been there, but there is still so much to do and explore.

 

[wilkeliza]

I grew up going to Cedar Point all the time as it is just down the road from me. It is a great park that always does very well. That being said, if you are a woman over a size 18 or a man over 200 or so you probably won't fit on most any coaster. I've had years where I didn't get to ride. Bummer, yes, but the restraints are made for safety. Saying that they could design it one way but just chose not to is probably not the case. For whatever reason they built it how it worked best. Disney is still, by far, the most accommodating park for people in wheelchairs or guests that are larger. It is a bummer if someone doesn't get to ride, trust me I've been there, but there is still so much to do and explore.

Oh I'm not saying every single ride is a choice that could have been different (FoP is one where it looks like for safety it has to be this way) but Rip Ride Rocket could have been an over the shoulder like any other coaster. That's the one that always was mind boggling but of course I'm use to over the shoulder retraints.

 

[Capang]

Oh I'm not saying every single ride is a choice that could have been different (FoJ is one where it looks like for safety it has to be this way) but Rip Ride Rocket could have been an older the shoulder like any other coaster. That's the one that always was mind boggling but of course I'm use to over the shoulder retraints.

Lots of thrill coasters like that don't have shoulder harnesses. Most have some type of lap bar or combination lap bar/shoulder harness. I'm guessing it has to do with the physics of the ride and keeping people the most secure.

 

[IrishNYC]

I'll ask. And everyone will be different proportions so hard to even find out OR even warn with just height or weight.

I think most folks have been able to ride most things at Disney so it's kind of a surprise that a new ride could be a problem. Add to that the lack of W/C options given the character in the movie ........... quite sad.

i agree with this. Disney is generally very accommodating to the Pooh Sized crowd, so it's surprising that they'd make a ride that seems to be such a worry.

 

[fla4fun]

I have issues with my legs on 7DMT, so I'm going into this expecting not to be able to ride FoP. I will check out the test seat during the AP preview when it may not be as busy. I have long legs, which is an issue, and another family member is Pooh sized, and the third has issues with 3D attractions causing migraines. So FoP may just be out of the cards for us.

The river ride looks like it will be incredible though, and I'm looking forward to that, as well as the general ambiance of the area.

 

[BigRed98]

Does anyone know if the toy banshees that u can buy interact with the land? I'm interested in buying one when I go down this summer but I want to know if it does anything else than just flap it's wings, open mouth and howl?

 

[rteetz]

Does anyone know if the toy banshees that u can buy interact with the land? I'm interested in buying one when I go down this summer but I want to know if it does anything else than just flap it's wings, open mouth and howl?

I am not sure it does interact with the land. I think it is basically just a "pet" banshee.

 

[Tonyz]

I don't find it that sad. Yes it's unfortunate that not everyone will be able to ride but universal has several rides that not everyone can ride and has done just fine. It's hard to make a new and unique ride system while be accommodating to every single person. I think Disney did the best they could here while trying to be innovative.

Nailed it. I think Disney should continue making rides that allow for people in wheelchairs or who have disabilities to ride. But if it's between continuing to be innovative and exciting... and making sure every single "Pooh/Plus/whatever"-sized person can ride? Come on...

We can all ride the river ride, at least!

 

[AngiTN]

I don't find it that sad. Yes it's unfortunate that not everyone will be able to ride but universal has several rides that not everyone can ride and has done just fine. It's hard to make a new and unique ride system while be accommodating to every single person. I think Disney did the best they could here while trying to be innovative.

Universal has done fine but they have gotten some heat and even went in and redesign a few to be more accommodating. Which means that they could have designed it differently when it was built but didn't for whatever reason. It is extremely surprising to me that Disney did go down their path here. Did they have to make something for everyone? No. But have they tried to be different from Universal in this regard? Yes, I believe they have. Till now.

 

[wilkeliza]

Nailed it. I think Disney should continue making rides that allow for people in wheelchairs or who have disabilities to ride. But if it's between continuing to be innovative and exciting... and making sure every single "Pooh/Plus/whatever"-sized person can ride? Come on...

We can all ride the river ride, at least!

I don't think everyone can ride Navi River though. ECV transfer to push wheelchair means solo ecv users may not get to ride and those who can not transfer out of their wheelchair won't be able to. Based on the step into the boat even some kids in wheelchairs won't get to ride because it is hard to pass even elementy school aged kids down and back up like that. I know not everyone can be accomidated everytime but I think it is important to remember that not all guest get to ride even the most calm attractions.

 

[rteetz]

Universal has done fine but they have gotten some heat and even went in and redesign a few to be more accommodating. Which means that they could have designed it differently when it was built but didn't for whatever reason. It is extremely surprising to me that Disney did go down their path here. Did they have to make something for everyone? No. But have they tried to be different from Universal in this regard? Yes, I believe they have. Till now.

Disney wants to create new experiences and be innovative. To do that not everything is going to be 100% accessible. It also doesn't seem Disney is going down the Universal path either. The Star Wars rides should be accessible at least the battle ride. Disney wanted to make this different from other simulators they have done like Star Tours and Soarin.

 

[wilkeliza]

Disney wants to create new experiences and be innovative. To do that not everything is going to be 100% accessible. It also doesn't seem Disney is going down the Universal path either. The Star Wars rides should be accessible at least the battle ride. Disney wanted to make this different from other simulators they have done like Star Tours and Soarin.

I'm also wondering what guest of size is. At some point every ride is going to be an issue. Is it the 2X guest who has 0 issues on any ride at WDW that siddenly is going to have an issue or is it the people who already have issues on Astro Orbitor, Everest, 7DMT, etc that are going to have issues on this.

 

[rteetz]

I'm also wondering what guest of size is. At some point every ride is going to be an issue. Is it the 2X guest who has 0 issues on any ride at WDW that siddenly is going to have an issue or is it the people who already have issues on Astro Orbitor, Everest, 7DMT, etc that are going to have issues on this.

Its a good question. I think because this is still so new they are still testing body types which is why we are hearing that people are getting all the way to the ride before being turned away.

 

[AngiTN]

I'm also wondering what guest of size is. At some point every ride is going to be an issue. Is it the 2X guest who has 0 issues on any ride at WDW that siddenly is going to have an issue or is it the people who already have issues on Astro Orbitor, Everest, 7DMT, etc that are going to have issues on this.

This is where I'm looking at it from too.
I realize that there are limits to rides, even at Disney. It is impossible to fit 100% of the people out there.
But I'd like to think that if you can fit on all other rides at Disney you can still fit on all new rides at Disney.
I would like to see they never start down a path where just 1 of their rides are restrictive.
I don't find any ride tight or uncomfortable, I've ridden them all.

 

[FastPasser]

CM preview day #1 is in the books. Could have gone a little smoother, but not too bad. There were about 800 CMs and their guests at each 2 hour session. There is an hour reset period between each session.

Body size at FoP, it is a factor, but it's not due to height, and as previously posted, it's mainly leg room limitations. Some tall people will have no problem, but other tall people might. It's how their bodies are proportioned. An average height person could also have a problem if they are more than pooh size, their legs may not fit into the available space. No way to tell until you try the test seat.

While their could have been. I am not aware of anyone not being able to experience FoP due to body size. The vast majority of people will be fine. Currently there is no test seat at the entrance, but one will be installed at some point. No date on if that will occur before the AP and DVC previews.