OFFICIAL January 2012 5K, Half Marathon, Marathon, Goofy or Dopey Challenge Thread

[FFigawi]

Can you park there if your not staying?

I assume so. I've never had a problem parking at any Disney resort that I've visited when not staying there.

 

[cewait]

Thanks John, I never knew that and I thought I had read all the posts.

Can you park there if your not staying?

Most definitely. Just have your drivers license ready and tell the guard ou are coming for dinner.

 

[cewait]

Hi All!

Haven't been on the boards in quite a while. My son and his wife had our first grandchild on May 1st and my daughter got married on June 10th. Now I'm babysitting our granddaughter until mid-August when my nieces have an opening at their daycare.

Anyway, I'm trying to decide if I should sign up for the Goofy. I intended to sign up for it when they had the biggest discount but I came down with heel problems the beginning of April. After an MRI, the official diagnosis was heel bursitis with some plantar fasciitis. Wouldn't let the doctor give me a cortisone shot, but took cortisone orally, did PT as well as rest, ice massage, and stretching on my own. Also doing some alternative therapies such as cranial-sacral treatments. It is definitely getting better although it was aching a little more again this week after my C-S treatment.

I ran the W&D half last year with a 10:15 per mile pace and then did the WDW Half in January with my DH at his pace of 14:00 per mile. Because I was thinking I would do the Goofy in 2012, I started using Galloway's method in March. Not sure if it was the increased walking with more heel strikes that caused the bursitis or not but have once again increased my running intervals to 4:30 and decreased my walking intervals to :30. Considering the heat and humidity in MO, I have been happy with my training pace which has been about 11:15-11:30 per mile. I don't have pain while a run just an occasional ache or twinge in my foot, calf, hamstring or lower back. (I think I'm just so focused on my body that I notice every little thing.) My doctor has given me the okay to enter the Goofy but I'm still a little hesitant to sign up.

I'm doing the W&D Half in October and have no worries about that. Just worried about doing the Half in January and then the Full the next day. Has anyone else with heel bursitis or plantar fasciitis done the Goofy before? Any tips or suggestions?

Right now, I'm just doing 3 days per week running/walking per Galloway's method and will start going to yoga again in mid-August when I'm no longer babysitting my granddaughter.

I know that there are many people who have overcome injuries/disabilities to do the Goofy. I guess I'm just looking for reassurance from my fellow runners....

Thanks!

Shorten you walk stride up and keep the turn over higher. It may not work but worth working on modifications now rather than late in training. Also you may want to ask your PT about a cushion appliance for the heal. As a trainer I would rather see you work to correct the underlying issue, but in a pinch this may help keep you on the road later.

Otherwise, sounds like you are doing the right things now. The tough issue is that you are about to get frozen out of the race if you wait too long. I would offer that it is OK to cut back on the back to back stuff while Goofy training. It is important to have 1-3 back to backs just to get a feel for starting off on fatigued legs, but you really do not need to be out there every weekend.

I ran this years Full segment on an Achilles tendinitis that flared up badly post run Saturday. Not exactly the same but the roadways at Disney are tough to run when you have a nagging issue that can be exasperated by road camber slopes that seem to always slope the wrong direction. Also, I ran the 2006 race on a stress fracture.

Not that any of this helps you today - I only offer as an example of what you can do if you wake up on Sunday and one of the wheels says NO. If that occurs just take the first mile and change easy. Start back a corral if needed. Slow and easy until the parking lot and aid station. Once you turn right towards the entrance to Epcot, you will not be able to run as easily.

Hope this helps

 

[orlandothebeagle]

Firstly,,coach charles thanks for all your words of wisdom, I dont always comment on them but I do always read them even when directed at others.

OrlandoTheBeagle: I am staying at POP -- I heard it was the best place to stay for the Marathon weekend and that WISHers tend to stay there.

I think I am more worried about being ready mentally more than I am about the running. I also never had to worry about what to eat pre and post trainings/races since I have only run 5Ks. So I feel like there is a lot for me yet to learn.

But I trust that the training will get me where I need to be. And I am looking to all of you to help fill in the gaps with helpful tips that will best prepare me for this race.

I never thought in a million years that I would be attempting to run a half marathon. Just goes to show you how life can take you in unexpected directions!

I would say once you get the training in you will be in a better frame of mind, the moring before my 1st half marathon I was terrified incase I would not be able to finish, I took it slow(too slow with that lovely thing called hindsight) but I regret panicking, I really never enjoyed it,
re eating, I really dont worry too much about what I eat as I eat pretty good normally, just nothing fatty the night before and ALWAYS porrige for breakfast and a bannana before I start, really, dont sweat it over eating,you will do plenty sweating on the day

I assume so. I've never had a problem parking at any Disney resort that I've visited when not staying there.

Most definitely. Just have your drivers license ready and tell the guard ou are coming for dinner.

Thanks guys, starting to look forwrd to this,managed 5 miles pain free last night around some forrest tracks, it was real loveley, my only panick is the scottish weather, last year it was so bad we couldnt even get the car to the gym for the treadmill as all the roads were closed cause of snow.

 

[orlandothebeagle]

Where do you guys run normally? any pictures?

 

[LadyDi13]

Thanks! I think they will love it.

My children, 6 and 8, did the 5K this past Marathon weekend and loved it so much we were able to convince my niece and nephew (will be 10 and 5) to participate in the 2012 one! I emailed runDisney about the pacing requirements and small children before registering them and was told that so long as they can complete the race under their own power (i.e. not being carried) that all are welcome to participate. I look forward to when my daughter is able to take part in the Girls on the Run program at school and maybe we can get her to complete the 5K without walking

 

[orlandothebeagle]

My children, 6 and 8, did the 5K this past Marathon weekend and loved it so much we were able to convince my niece and nephew (will be 10 and 5) to participate in the 2012 one! I emailed runDisney about the pacing requirements and small children before registering them and was told that so long as they can complete the race under their own power (i.e. not being carried) that all are welcome to participate. I look forward to when my daughter is able to take part in the Girls on the Run program at school and maybe we can get her to complete the 5K without walking

What a great thing to get kids "into"

 

[DisneyBoundinDec]

My children, 6 and 8, did the 5K this past Marathon weekend and loved it so much we were able to convince my niece and nephew (will be 10 and 5) to participate in the 2012 one! I emailed runDisney about the pacing requirements and small children before registering them and was told that so long as they can complete the race under their own power (i.e. not being carried) that all are welcome to participate. I look forward to when my daughter is able to take part in the Girls on the Run program at school and maybe we can get her to complete the 5K without walking

what fun! I would love it if my son wanted to run as well.. but kind of look forward to that weekend sans kids!!! is that bad?!!

 

[cewait]

Where do you guys run normally? any pictures?

Great question…

I generally run in one of three locations. Lately most has been in my subdivision which is flat and boring. Then I also run in the Houston Memorial Park and associated trails and the Sugar Land Lost Creek park trails. Most time of these two is on the Lost Creek trails. It’s a 5.5 mile out and back trail that runs close to a creek, so it is full of rolling undulations. It’s concrete with a small dirt trail (foot path) on one side.

I have the great privilege of travelling – a lot. It’s not really a privilege as much as it is a pain in the rear most of the time. But I get a monthly set of runs in at WDW. There my favorite runs involve run around Crescent Lake at the Boardwalk. I generally park behind the guard shack and run through the parking lot to the tennis court area then a short path to the sidewalk along the canal between BWV and DHS. Its a loop around Crescent Lake, down to DHS then a final Crescent Lake Loop. When later in the fall, I incorporate the outer loop along Epcot Resort Blvd… running it counter clockwise since 3-400 yards of the loop force you into the street. I will split the early AM DW runs with an afternoon run from Marriott Village to DTD then on to OKW; Looping OKW and back around the DTD parking and down to the Marriott Village again. It has more traffic but on two tough crossings. It takes in the entire and shady length of Disney Resort Blvd before hitting DTD.

I have many other great runs that I get in. Some favorites in no particular order….

The run from the Westin Bayshore in Vancouver, BC. There is a great little 10k loop from the hotel around Stanley Park. It’s a great loop where you feel like you are constantly buzzed by water planes. https://www.starwoodhotels.com/pub/media/1080/wes1080.runningmap.pdf

I also love running on the National Mall in DC. I get to the DC area once or twice a year and am usually within a few blocks of the Mall. I understand where the hill in Capital Hill comes from. Occasionally, I end up away from the Mall. I really like running the trail system. The Rock Creek trails as well as the trails around Old Town Alexandria are really cool.

I get to Baltimore every once in a while. The run along the waterfront is amazing.

San Diego – Love running the edge of the bay. Once stayed at the Hotel del Coronado. Had a great time running around the city perimeter.

San Francisco – Always seem to be ill. I usually get a run in from the hotel down to the bay.

Somehow there always seems to be water involved with my cool runs.

So many others and such a short memory.

So, I can only imagine the countryside you are able to run in....

 

[WriteDisney]

Love following this thread to see how everyone is doing... has anyone ever trained for an aquathon (swim/run race)? Theres one in our area next month that I was thinking of signing up for, its only a 300m swim then a 5k and I'm not worried about not being in shape for the race itself, just the logistics of this type of event (like, do you wear shoes while you swim and then run in your wet shoes? do you leave shoes in the transitional area? those type of questions).

Anyway if anyone has done this, I'd be interested in hearing about it. I thought it would be good training for the marathon too.

 

[cewait]

Love following this thread to see how everyone is doing... has anyone ever trained for an aquathon (swim/run race)? Theres one in our area next month that I was thinking of signing up for, its only a 300m swim then a 5k and I'm not worried about not being in shape for the race itself, just the logistics of this type of event (like, do you wear shoes while you swim and then run in your wet shoes? do you leave shoes in the transitional area? those type of questions).

Anyway if anyone has done this, I'd be interested in hearing about it. I thought it would be good training for the marathon too.

Its a tri for those who do not bike.....

It is run pretty much like all multisport races.

-1 You swim just like you would for any swim... Suit, goggles and swim cap. Most likely would not be allowed to wear anything on feet even if you wanted to avoid the fin effect.

-2 Once you leave the water, you will run to a transition area where you will have your spot arraigned. Here you toss the goggle and cap and pull on shorts and running top (over suit) if desired. Many folks will just run in swim suit and shoes. You will pull on shoes and your bib (race number) and then run out for the 5k.

-3 Race is timed so you will have a timing chip attached to a velcro locked strap on your ankle.

-4 I find that I have to take it real easy for the first half mile when going from swim to other sport, even more so with running. My body gets used to the calm, relaxed and very rhythmic breathing during a swim. Hitting it too hard with a 5k run throws me at times.

Have fun...

 

[WriteDisney]

Its a tri for those who do not bike.....

It is run pretty much like all multisport races.

-1 You swim just like you would for any swim... Suit, goggles and swim cap. Most likely would not be allowed to wear anything on feet even if you wanted to avoid the fin effect.

-2 Once you leave the water, you will run to a transition area where you will have your spot arraigned. Here you toss the goggle and cap and pull on shorts and running top (over suit) if desired. Many folks will just run in swim suit and shoes. You will pull on shoes and your bib (race number) and then run out for the 5k.

-3 Race is timed so you will have a timing chip attached to a velcro locked strap on your ankle.

-4 I find that I have to take it real easy for the first half mile when going from swim to other sport, even more so with running. My body gets used to the calm, relaxed and very rhythmic breathing during a swim. Hitting it too hard with a 5k run throws me at times.

Have fun...

Awesome!! That is exactly what I was looking for. That doesn't sound as scary as I imagined it would be!

ETA: Alright, ADRs for Marathon Weekend open up next week... anyone given any thought to their post-race celebration meal? DH and I are staying at the Contemporary so we're thinking Cali Grill might be nice. Plus you have the reserved area for fireworks so we won't have to trek over to MK if we don't want to.

 

[FFigawi]

ETA: Alright, ADRs for Marathon Weekend open up next week... anyone given any thought to their post-race celebration meal? DH and I are staying at the Contemporary so we're thinking Cali Grill might be nice. Plus you have the reserved area for fireworks so we won't have to trek over to MK if we don't want to.

After Goofy, my traditional celebration takes place at Raglan Road. I like to go there after my ice bath and shower to have a few pints of Guinness to re-hydrate and replenish my carbs. If Disney offers Marathon Monday again this year, we'll have our real celebration dinner at Victoria & Albert's on Tuesday so we can meet up with our friends and drink around the world at Epcot on Monday.

 

[cewait]

Awesome!! That is exactly what I was looking for. That doesn't sound as scary as I imagined it would be!

ETA: Alright, ADRs for Marathon Weekend open up next week... anyone given any thought to their post-race celebration meal? DH and I are staying at the Contemporary so we're thinking Cali Grill might be nice. Plus you have the reserved area for fireworks so we won't have to trek over to MK if we don't want to.

Sunday night is always a little iffy for me as I never know if I am going to have an appetite by then. We will make our standing reservation for the meal at Japan early that evening. It's a treat to tackle the stairs for the meal and even more so - post meal. We have had ressies there every year since 99 and I have made most years, though a couple times got stuck at Salad and sushi. 2007 was the year I discovered where the elevator was for the trip down.... Only used it once.

We will probably do V&A or Cali on Monday evening. It would be fun to get four more folks for a trip to the Chef's table that evening. All it takes is the magic of being the first call picked up on the 14th. Well maybe, I swear that costs just went up, again.

 

[Hockeychic]

Getting really excited for marathon weekend. Always a great weekend with great friends!!!

 

[Hockeychic]

sorry double post

 

[hauntedcity]

My children, 6 and 8, did the 5K this past Marathon weekend and loved it so much we were able to convince my niece and nephew (will be 10 and 5) to participate in the 2012 one! I emailed runDisney about the pacing requirements and small children before registering them and was told that so long as they can complete the race under their own power (i.e. not being carried) that all are welcome to participate. I look forward to when my daughter is able to take part in the Girls on the Run program at school and maybe we can get her to complete the 5K without walking

What fun! My youngest just turned 2, so it may be a few years before we do this as a family.

 

[donmil723]

Shorten you walk stride up and keep the turn over higher. It may not work but worth working on modifications now rather than late in training. Also you may want to ask your PT about a cushion appliance for the heal. As a trainer I would rather see you work to correct the underlying issue, but in a pinch this may help keep you on the road later.

Otherwise, sounds like you are doing the right things now. The tough issue is that you are about to get frozen out of the race if you wait too long. I would offer that it is OK to cut back on the back to back stuff while Goofy training. It is important to have 1-3 back to backs just to get a feel for starting off on fatigued legs, but you really do not need to be out there every weekend.

I ran this years Full segment on an Achilles tendinitis that flared up badly post run Saturday. Not exactly the same but the roadways at Disney are tough to run when you have a nagging issue that can be exasperated by road camber slopes that seem to always slope the wrong direction. Also, I ran the 2006 race on a stress fracture.

Not that any of this helps you today - I only offer as an example of what you can do if you wake up on Sunday and one of the wheels says NO. If that occurs just take the first mile and change easy. Start back a corral if needed. Slow and easy until the parking lot and aid station. Once you turn right towards the entrance to Epcot, you will not be able to run as easily.

Hope this helps

Thanks Coach! I have changed my walking to a shorter stride so I'm not landing as hard on my heel as I did when I was doing more of a racewalk. I did go to a certified pedorthisist and had custom insoles made. I need to go back and have them adjusted now that the bursitis is improving. I'm also going to make an appt. for a sports massage with a therapist who has had good results treating plantar fasciitis.

I'm sorry that you had problems in the past but it is encouraging that you worked through it and made it to the finish. I think I'm going to go ahead and sign up. Maybe I'll get a massage after both the half and the full!!!

Guess I'll just keep doing what I've been doing. Things are improving!!! I probably wouldn't even give this another thought if it wasnt for wanting to do the Goofy.

 

[orlandothebeagle]

Great question…

I generally run in one of three locations. Lately most has been in my subdivision which is flat and boring. Then I also run in the Houston Memorial Park and associated trails and the Sugar Land Lost Creek park trails. Most time of these two is on the Lost Creek trails. It’s a 5.5 mile out and back trail that runs close to a creek, so it is full of rolling undulations. It’s concrete with a small dirt trail (foot path) on one side.

I have the great privilege of travelling – a lot. It’s not really a privilege as much as it is a pain in the rear most of the time. But I get a monthly set of runs in at WDW. There my favorite runs involve run around Crescent Lake at the Boardwalk. I generally park behind the guard shack and run through the parking lot to the tennis court area then a short path to the sidewalk along the canal between BWV and DHS. Its a loop around Crescent Lake, down to DHS then a final Crescent Lake Loop. When later in the fall, I incorporate the outer loop along Epcot Resort Blvd… running it counter clockwise since 3-400 yards of the loop force you into the street. I will split the early AM DW runs with an afternoon run from Marriott Village to DTD then on to OKW; Looping OKW and back around the DTD parking and down to the Marriott Village again. It has more traffic but on two tough crossings. It takes in the entire and shady length of Disney Resort Blvd before hitting DTD.

I have many other great runs that I get in. Some favorites in no particular order….

The run from the Westin Bayshore in Vancouver, BC. There is a great little 10k loop from the hotel around Stanley Park. It’s a great loop where you feel like you are constantly buzzed by water planes. https://www.starwoodhotels.com/pub/media/1080/wes1080.runningmap.pdf

I also love running on the National Mall in DC. I get to the DC area once or twice a year and am usually within a few blocks of the Mall. I understand where the hill in Capital Hill comes from. Occasionally, I end up away from the Mall. I really like running the trail system. The Rock Creek trails as well as the trails around Old Town Alexandria are really cool.

I get to Baltimore every once in a while. The run along the waterfront is amazing.

San Diego – Love running the edge of the bay. Once stayed at the Hotel del Coronado. Had a great time running around the city perimeter.

San Francisco – Always seem to be ill. I usually get a run in from the hotel down to the bay.

Somehow there always seems to be water involved with my cool runs.

So many others and such a short memory.

So, I can only imagine the countryside you are able to run in....

They all sound lovely, its so nice to go for a nice run compared to a needs must run.

Love following this thread to see how everyone is doing... has anyone ever trained for an aquathon (swim/run race)? Theres one in our area next month that I was thinking of signing up for, its only a 300m swim then a 5k and I'm not worried about not being in shape for the race itself, just the logistics of this type of event (like, do you wear shoes while you swim and then run in your wet shoes? do you leave shoes in the transitional area? those type of questions).

Anyway if anyone has done this, I'd be interested in hearing about it. I thought it would be good training for the marathon too.

It sounds great, I always wanted to do a tri, but Im not sure I want to buy an expensive bike and the thought of getting in some of the water scares me, not the wildlife ,more the yuk that floats about.

 

[orlandothebeagle]

The weather is TERRIBLE here in scotland today.RAIN RAIN RAIN.(Fl style)
I am very proud of myself, I gave the weather a big fat 2 fingered salute and went for a 7 mile run, furthest yet this year and still no pain,