off topic but please hug your children and tell them you love them today

[bunkkinsmom]

In my thoughts and prayers today Dan. It's gonna be a tough one, but because of this day, you WILL see you're boy again. I know that isn't of much comfort to you now, but we are all praying for you today.

Yep. Absolutely. Praying for you today.

 

[polkadotsuitcase]

In my thoughts and prayers today Dan. It's gonna be a tough one, but because of this day, you WILL see you're boy again. I know that isn't of much comfort to you now, but we are all praying for you today.

Well said. Prayers from NC, too.

 

[BigDaddyRog]

Well said Phyllis...Dan, I dont know how religious you are. I, myself, have NOT always been on the right side of religion and still to this day dont have much faith in organized religion...but it sure can be comforting to think that all of the pain we go through, regardless of how extreme it may be, isnt just wasted energy. That there is SOME KIND of method to all of this madness. If you ARE NOT religious, then something like what youre going through may just seem so......pointless(Im not sure thats the word Im looking for). Whether you believe in God, or a higher power of some kind, or even if you just have faith that MOST people have SOMETHING good in them that drives them to do the right thing most of the time......it may be easier to accept death as it comes. It may help to see that his life was complete, although far too short for our understanding. And judging from what Ive heard about his influence on his friends (and SOOOOO friggen MANY of them...the boy was beyond popular), the way YOUR pain has made so many of us appreciate the time we have with our kids, and the outpouring of everyone here on the boards being GENUINELY concerned about you and your family....well.......look at that, will ya..........millions of people pass on, NEVER having had THIS much effect in the world or with the people they came into contact with. Your son made a huge difference in this world...and his passing has certainly brought many people together in a positive way. Maybe, if you have a faith that you follow.....this can be thought of as a COMPLETED LIFE? Maybe his job was done so well that he didnt need as much time here. Maybe his reward for living so well was being allowed to advance to the next level earlier than most. There are many things about life and death that we wont be able to understand untill we get to experience it, and with any luck, we will get to LIVE some of our life before we die. Your son lived ALOT MORE LIFE than I have, I only wish I was as influencial in my 41 years as he was in his 18 years.

Happy Easter to you and your family, Dan. If you dont believe that THIS is the absolute end to this game...if you have any faith that there IS more to life than death....then force yourself to smile and wave up to Jeff today. It may feel silly, it may not...but it cant possibly HURT anything, can it? And Im sure he'd love a smile and wave from you on Easter.

 

[RvUsa]

Dangit Phyllis and Rog, you two have me crying again.

Thank you Dan for making me take the time to look and my 7 yr old son and look past the little monster that frustrates me, and makes me made, and to see the gift from God that is in there somewhere. Thank you for sharing Jeff's life with us, and telling us about who he was and all the people he touched.

I hope you and your family have a good Easter.

 

[vick]

Congratulations to your daughter, Dan. That is quite an accomplishment.

I'm still praying for you and your family. Like the others have said, because of Easter, you will see Jeff again some day.

 

[DaveInTN]

Dan - congratulations to your daughter! That is quite an accomplishment, in particular with what she has gone through the past few weeks. She has made quite a statement with her determination and her achievement! I know you are proud of her, and I know Jeff is proud of her too!

Happy Easter to you and your family. May God help you find some peace and hope on this day amidst the chaos.

 

[VACAMPER]

Congrats to your daughter, Jeff would be proud. Thinking of you guys daily.

 

[kmccain]

Bishop Family

I am sorry but i just found your post. I don't want to open any wounds but i would like you to know how extremely sorry i am for your loss and the pain that you and your family have been through.

Thank you for the wake up call! You never know when the Lord will take you or your child. Just know that he is in a wonderful place surrounded with friends and family that have gone on before him.

Live or him Dan! Celebrate his life! He would have wanted it that way. Please know that our family will be praying for yours along with the many friends that you have here. God Bless you and your family!

 

[DisneyBishops]

Well said Phyllis...Dan, I dont know how religious you are. I, myself, have NOT always been on the right side of religion and still to this day dont have much faith in organized religion...but it sure can be comforting to think that all of the pain we go through, regardless of how extreme it may be, isnt just wasted energy. That there is SOME KIND of method to all of this madness. If you ARE NOT religious, then something like what youre going through may just seem so......pointless(Im not sure thats the word Im looking for). Whether you believe in God, or a higher power of some kind, or even if you just have faith that MOST people have SOMETHING good in them that drives them to do the right thing most of the time......it may be easier to accept death as it comes. It may help to see that his life was complete, although far too short for our understanding. And judging from what Ive heard about his influence on his friends (and SOOOOO friggen MANY of them...the boy was beyond popular), the way YOUR pain has made so many of us appreciate the time we have with our kids, and the outpouring of everyone here on the boards being GENUINELY concerned about you and your family....well.......look at that, will ya..........millions of people pass on, NEVER having had THIS much effect in the world or with the people they came into contact with. Your son made a huge difference in this world...and his passing has certainly brought many people together in a positive way. Maybe, if you have a faith that you follow.....this can be thought of as a COMPLETED LIFE? Maybe his job was done so well that he didnt need as much time here. Maybe his reward for living so well was being allowed to advance to the next level earlier than most. There are many things about life and death that we wont be able to understand untill we get to experience it, and with any luck, we will get to LIVE some of our life before we die. Your son lived ALOT MORE LIFE than I have, I only wish I was as influencial in my 41 years as he was in his 18 years.

Happy Easter to you and your family, Dan. If you dont believe that THIS is the absolute end to this game...if you have any faith that there IS more to life than death....then force yourself to smile and wave up to Jeff today. It may feel silly, it may not...but it cant possibly HURT anything, can it? And Im sure he'd love a smile and wave from you on Easter.

Rog thanks for the kind words. I am not a fan of organized religion either. I do believe in God but don't think he approves of many organized religions either.

I smile and wave to Jeff each day.

I beg of everyone with kids to love them each day no matter what they do. This is the worst nightmare a parent will ever go through.

 

[BigDaddyRog]

I beg of everyone with kids to love them each day no matter what they do.

Ya know.....Im going through a really tough time with my oldest right now....we havent even spoken in a week and a half. She takes advantage of us at every opportunity, talks to us like she hates us unless she's trying to convince us to do something for her or give her something, then as soon as we do what she asks or give here what she wants, its right back to the hatefulness within minutes. I love this girl....she's my first born....my little girl. I understand her thinking, her humor, my daughter is STILL in that mean little wench's body.....somewhere, and on rare occassions, I get a glimpse of her for very brief moments. Im attempting "TOUGH LOVE" right now....its killing me and I feel like Im just being mean most of the time...but I guess its neccessary to do.I guess she's just at the age that she has to fail to realize how rewarding it can be to simply be nice to the parents. I hope she figures it out soon, Dan....because I cant help but worry everyday that something terrible may happen before she comes around to her senses, and if she were to have a fatal accident while we are in this little spat, Im not sure how I would handle the remainder of my life....knowing the she's gone and having thought that we dont care about her. We tell her we care constantly, we tell her we are only trying to make her life better...but she simply doesnt see it that way. She tells us we have made her life miserable.....THAT hurts!!! I wanna slap some sense into her thick skull, but that doesnt work....at least it never did for me when I was her age, acting the same way she acts now. I love this child dearly, and it would be so easy to just GIVE IN and allow her to continue the verbal abuse and just wait for her to grow out of it, but Im not sure that would be fair to HER or US. So...as it is....we're just biting the bullet and praying that she stumbles through safely and wakes up out of this very soon, because, again....what if she were to die while this is going on. This thought has kept me awake since your tragedy has struck and makes me very nervous.

 

[liv luvs disney]

Dan, our family is still thinking of you and praying for you and your family. You were especially heavy on my heart over the weekend with it being Easter. I was thrilled to check in and see you had some good news regarding your daughter. I know it made you happy...a feeling you haven't felt in several weeks now.

 

[Just Beachy]

Dan, congrats to your daughter!!! That's fantastic!!! Smiles will get easier and more frequent with time. Hang in there. Still thinking of and praying for you and your family every day.

 

[DisneyBishops]

Ya know.....Im going through a really tough time with my oldest right now....we havent even spoken in a week and a half. She takes advantage of us at every opportunity, talks to us like she hates us unless she's trying to convince us to do something for her or give her something, then as soon as we do what she asks or give here what she wants, its right back to the hatefulness within minutes. I love this girl....she's my first born....my little girl. I understand her thinking, her humor, my daughter is STILL in that mean little wench's body.....somewhere, and on rare occassions, I get a glimpse of her for very brief moments. Im attempting "TOUGH LOVE" right now....its killing me and I feel like Im just being mean most of the time...but I guess its neccessary to do.I guess she's just at the age that she has to fail to realize how rewarding it can be to simply be nice to the parents. I hope she figures it out soon, Dan....because I cant help but worry everyday that something terrible may happen before she comes around to her senses, and if she were to have a fatal accident while we are in this little spat, Im not sure how I would handle the remainder of my life....knowing the she's gone and having thought that we dont care about her. We tell her we care constantly, we tell her we are only trying to make her life better...but she simply doesnt see it that way. She tells us we have made her life miserable.....THAT hurts!!! I wanna slap some sense into her thick skull, but that doesnt work....at least it never did for me when I was her age, acting the same way she acts now. I love this child dearly, and it would be so easy to just GIVE IN and allow her to continue the verbal abuse and just wait for her to grow out of it, but Im not sure that would be fair to HER or US. So...as it is....we're just biting the bullet and praying that she stumbles through safely and wakes up out of this very soon, because, again....what if she were to die while this is going on. This thought has kept me awake since your tragedy has struck and makes me very nervous.

Rog just tell her you love her everyday. Don't worry about what she says.

I went through this with my oldest and believe it or not she has finally grown out of that stage. She is now 24.

Lucky with my middle one. She has been pretty good thus far. She has been accepted and starts Law School this fall. She is now 21. I tell them both how much i love them everyday. Thats all you can do Rog. She will come around it will just take time. Think about how you were at her age. I know i was not easy to be around at that age. But if we make it we all get through it. Jeff was head strong but never spoke badly to me or his mom. We did argue at times but usually it came out alright. Now there are alot of differences with boys and girls.

Hang in Rog and it will get better. Remember just tell her you love her everyday. Talk to her even if she won't talk to you.

Hang in there man.

 

[CruisingCamper]

DisneyBishops..I was reading the forums today and came across the news of you losing your son..I just wanted to say how sorry that I am for your loss and I hope you and your family can find peace.

We lost my 19 year old step-son in January and it's really hard and no words can express how difficult life will be..because we have a new "normal" and it's the hardest thing ever. Everyday day that passes you think of them

Anyway, our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

And I hope you don't sell your moho and will be able to enjoy camping again.

Every year..we would take Josh and our entire family to Buffalo River National Park camping..it was his favorite and only vacation that meant anything to him. We all went for him. This year, we have decided not to go there..we just can't do it yet. We're going to Yellowstone instead, something new for us, but next year, we'll see??? Maybe we can go to Buffalo again.. we just need some time right now. So, maybe you'll be able to get back to the fort one day! I hope so!!

 

[auntie]

DisneyBishops..I was reading the forums today and came across the news of you losing your son..I just wanted to say how sorry that I am for your loss and I hope you and your family can find peace.

We lost my 19 year old step-son in January and it's really hard and no words can express how difficult life will be..because we have a new "normal" and it's the hardest thing ever. Everyday day that passes you think of them

Anyway, our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

And I hope you don't sell your moho and will be able to enjoy camping again.

Every year..we would take Josh and our entire family to Buffalo River National Park camping..it was his favorite and only vacation that meant anything to him. We all went for him. This year, we have decided not to go there..we just can't do it yet. We're going to Yellowstone instead, something new for us, but next year, we'll see??? Maybe we can go to Buffalo again.. we just need some time right now. So, maybe you'll be able to get back to the fort one day! I hope so!!

I just wanted to say that I'm sorry for your loss.

 

[BigDaddyRog]

Rog just tell her you love her everyday. Don't worry about what she says.

I know youre right......Thats exactly what I will start doing. I dont really care to hear her response with the horrible attitude she has, But I will call her everyday and tell her that I love her and hope that one day she realizes that. With any luck, it will irritate her at least!!!

.......Think about how you were at her age. I know i was not easy to be around at that age. .......

I was HELL...I sometimes think this is the "Mother Curse" working on me...you know...."I hope you have kids that act just like you when you get older"....thats apparently a pretty powerful curse!!!



Hang in Rog and it will get better. Remember just tell her you love her everyday. Talk to her even if she won't talk to you.

Hang in there man.

Thanks for the help, Dan...it means alot coming from you!!!

 

[bunkkinsmom]

Thanks for the help, Dan...it means alot coming from you!!!

Dan, this proves what kind of man you are. Suffering as you are and still taking the time to give words of love to a friend. Amazing.

Rog, I try not to think of what I was like when I look at my 7 year old. Scary.

 

[tinah159]

Thinking of you.

 

[disney4dan]

DisneyBishops..I was reading the forums today and came across the news of you losing your son..I just wanted to say how sorry that I am for your loss and I hope you and your family can find peace.

We lost my 19 year old step-son in January and it's really hard and no words can express how difficult life will be..because we have a new "normal" and it's the hardest thing ever. Everyday day that passes you think of them

Anyway, our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

And I hope you don't sell your moho and will be able to enjoy camping again.

Every year..we would take Josh and our entire family to Buffalo River National Park camping..it was his favorite and only vacation that meant anything to him. We all went for him. This year, we have decided not to go there..we just can't do it yet. We're going to Yellowstone instead, something new for us, but next year, we'll see??? Maybe we can go to Buffalo again.. we just need some time right now. So, maybe you'll be able to get back to the fort one day! I hope so!!

I also wanted to say I am sorry to hear of your loss, and hope you have found comfort and normalcy return.

I think you will enjoy your trip to Yellowstone, we went in 2006 and have many fond memories of that time.

 

[DisneyBishops]

DisneyBishops..I was reading the forums today and came across the news of you losing your son..I just wanted to say how sorry that I am for your loss and I hope you and your family can find peace.

We lost my 19 year old step-son in January and it's really hard and no words can express how difficult life will be..because we have a new "normal" and it's the hardest thing ever. Everyday day that passes you think of them

Anyway, our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

And I hope you don't sell your moho and will be able to enjoy camping again.

Every year..we would take Josh and our entire family to Buffalo River National Park camping..it was his favorite and only vacation that meant anything to him. We all went for him. This year, we have decided not to go there..we just can't do it yet. We're going to Yellowstone instead, something new for us, but next year, we'll see??? Maybe we can go to Buffalo again.. we just need some time right now. So, maybe you'll be able to get back to the fort one day! I hope so!!

Oh my gosh, so sorry to hear about your son. I can imagine what you have been going through. As you well know this is the worst nightmare a parent can ever have.