Obama's Speech

You had your mind made up before the video and were looking for something to latch onto about your dislike of Obama. I think that is pretty clear.

I really didnt need the video for me to believe that Obama is a Crock. The video just provided evidence to what I already have seen & heard. Or in Obama case have NOT seen & Heard.

I do think that if there was a video of Obama kicking puppies and feeding rat poison to babies, he followers would STILL view him as "THE ONE".
 
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While I don't agree with the Wright's words, I can understand where the hurt and anger comes from.

Same here, and we hope and can see that the generation that moved on from Reverend Wright's era has benefited from his struggles... some day I hope in my lifetime the entire 50 states of America can respect each other, and where they came from and how they got here.
 
I really didnt need the video for me to believe that Obama is a Crock. The video just provided evidence to what I already have seen & heard. Or in Obama case have NOT seen & Heard.

I do think that if there was a video of Obama kicking puppies and feeding rat poison to babies, he followers would STILL view him as "THE ONE".

Thank you, you made my point.

Well of course we'd think that since the only reasons we are voting for him are:

a) we are drinking the Kool-Aid of the "warm fuzzies" we get when he's on TV and
b) we'd rather have a beer with him.
 
I really didnt need the video for me to believe that Obama is a Crock. The video just provided evidence to what I already have seen & heard. Or in Obama case have NOT seen & Heard.

I do think that if there was a video of Obama kicking puppies and feeding rat poison to babies, he followers would STILL view him as "THE ONE".

And you'll be voting for McCane in November so that's okay...

For you to even suggest such a video is repulsive.
 

I really didnt need the video for me to believe that Obama is a Crock. The video just provided evidence to what I already have seen & heard. Or in Obama case have NOT seen & Heard.

I do think that if there was a video of Obama kicking puppies and feeding rat poison to babies, he followers would STILL view him as "THE ONE".


I'm a fairly reasonable person. I will vote for whichever Democrat is the nominee. I am putting you on ignore because you've gone over the line with your hatred of a legitimate candidate of our party. I'm not thrilled telling another Democrat that his rhetoric is way over the bounds of appropriateness (in my opinion) so I'll stop here. You needn't respond because I won't be reading anything you say anymore.
 
Word by word, sentence by sentence, someone tell me something they can truly argue with in that speech.

The actual speech. The words and ideas expressed. Not imagined judgements you have already made about the man. I just cant fathom how anyone can argue the points made were not a completely honest and accurate depiction of the world we live in.

He was HONEST when talking about everybody elses racism, including his own Grandmothers!!!!! As if He is above it all!:snooty:

He lied about his knowledge of Wright. And he is LYING NOW.
 
He was HONEST when talking about everybody elses racism, including his own Grandmothers!!!!! As if He is above it all!:snooty:

He lied about his knowledge of Wright. And he is LYING NOW.

At this point, it's not even worth responding with counter points so I'll say this: Hello, Dramatic Line 1 calling...
 
And you'll be voting for McCane in November so that's okay...

For you to even suggest such a video is repulsive.

No I wont be voting for McCain.

Sorry you find the suggested video repulsive, but it is clear that the Obama supporters cannot see anything wrong with their candidate at all. Nothing, not one thing! Nada!

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You had your mind made up before the video and were looking for something to latch onto about your dislike of Obama. I think that is pretty clear.

It's an awful video no matter what you thought about Obama before .:mad:

His spiritual advisor is a nutcase and Obama made a spin speech to straddle the fence distancing himself from the pastor without casting him off completely as the nutcase he really is.

And talk of reconciliation won't work if we have to "understand" or "excuse" bitter, angry, hateful preachers over what happened to their ancestors (especially with the AIDS lies thrown in).

Is Obama completely beyond the racist nonsense of Wright, Jackson, Sharpton et al or not?? It's beginning to sound like the Canadian NAFTA issue -- one face in public and another face behind the scenes.
 
Another good speech.

I am a great public speaker.

I wouldn't make a good president.
 
It's an awful video no matter what you thought about Obama before .:mad:

His spiritual advisor is a nutcase and Obama made a spin speech to straddle the fence distancing himself from the pastor without casting him off completely as the nutcase he really is.

I agree - those 4 videos posted were awful and I'm glad Obama denounced those comments.


Speaking of spiritual advisors, no offense, but based on what you've posted on these boards before, I'd say your spiritual advisor is a nutcase also.
 
Thank you, you made my point.

Well of course we'd think that since the only reasons we are voting for him are:

a) we are drinking the Kool-Aid of the "warm fuzzies" we get when he's on TV and
b) we'd rather have a beer with him.


Not once have I ever used the "Kool Aid' reference...EVER to anybody on these boards in all the time I have been here. But I have had it used towards me from Obama supporters..and I blew it off!

And no I dont believe the whole "beer" debate. I have never even been a part of that whole muck!

You are reading things and assuming way too much.
 
He was HONEST when talking about everybody elses racism, including his own Grandmothers!!!!! As if He is above it all!:snooty:

He lied about his knowledge of Wright. And he is LYING NOW.


You apparently have comprehension problems. It was an honest depiction of the world we live in.

And so you shout LIAR. We get it. You are filled with hate and despair.;)

We are hopeful for a united party and a united country. Curses on our optimism!


And for the final dagger in your heart..............

Go Big East...Kick ACC butt!
 
No I wont be voting for McCain.

Sorry you find the suggested video repulsive, but it is clear that the Obama supporters cannot see anything wrong with their candidate at all. Nothing, not one thing! Nada!

:confused3

Well, I guess you'll be writing in a vote or voting for Nader, No problem :thumbsup2
 
Word by word, sentence by sentence, someone tell me something they can truly argue with in that speech.

The actual speech. The words and ideas expressed. Not imagined judgements you have already made about the man. I just cant fathom how anyone can argue the points made were not a completely honest and accurate depiction of the world we live in.

Which is what, exactly? That we have racial problems in this country?

DUH!

What I argue with is that he made excuses for Rev. Wright and his hate speech. That he didn't even begin to explain why he hasn't been able to change Rev. Wright's divisive views, or his congregation, but he's somehow going to change the country. And how he can justify taking his daughters to a church on Sundays where they will hear lies and distorted, hateful views about their own country.

He's trying to have it both ways. To hold himself up on the national stage as "the one" who can transcend the racial divide and heal the racial wounds. Well, he should have started closer to home, in his own community. But he won't risk that.
 
I agree - those 4 videos posted were awful and I'm glad Obama denounced those comments.


Speaking of spiritual advisors, no offense, but based on what you've posted on these boards before, I'd say your spiritual advisor is a nutcase also.


You're glad he denounced the comments, but you don't question the wisdom of subjecting his own daughters to them? Were there no other churches available, where his children could hear the Gospel of the Love of Christ without all the hate-filled rhetoric too? :confused3 :confused3
 
He was HONEST when talking about everybody elses racism, including his own Grandmothers!!!!! As if He is above it all!:snooty:

He lied about his knowledge of Wright. And he is LYING NOW.

There must have been two speeches.

In the speech I heard, he didn't give anyone a pass for their racism. I think the point about his grandmother was spot on.
 
Which is what, exactly? That we have racial problems in this country?

DUH!

What I argue with is that he made excuses for Rev. Wright and his hate speech. That he didn't even begin to explain why he hasn't been able to change Rev. Wright's divisive views, or his congregation, but he's somehow going to change the country. And how he can justify taking his daughters to a church on Sundays where they will hear lies and distorted, hateful views about their own country.

He's trying to have it both ways. To hold himself up on the national stage as "the one" who can transcend the racial divide and healing the racial wounds. Well, he should have started closer to home, in his own community. But he won't risk that.

Well, he made ME feel better about it. That has to be the first step. There seem to be others.

As far as holding himself up as "the one"............hes running for president. He is asking people to vote for him. Thats how its done.


So I guess DUH is appropriate. Or maybe whatever.
 


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