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he's counting on that-and there do seem to be a lot of Americans with the attention spans of gnats-so it may work.

I love you, Fits, but I don't agree with you at all. The voters are paying attention. This is reflected in every debate and every poll. Americans are engaged in the issues and the November election. Politics has changed.

However, the message hasn't been received by McCain, the Republicans, or for that matter, Hillary Clinton. They're still playing politics 1990's style and it isn't working.

McCain should be winning by 20-30 points since he has the stage to himself. This is when he should be shoring support and it isn't happening.

As far as Hillary, well ............ Hillary is just Hillary. She ran a campaign as if she was running against George Bush and either couldn't or wouldn't switch gears. And that's the kind of president she would be too.
 
I love you, Fits, but I don't agree with you at all. The voters are paying attention. This is reflected in every debate and every poll. Americans are engaged in the issues and the November election. Politics has changed.

However, the message hasn't been received by McCain, the Republicans, or for that matter, Hillary Clinton. They're still playing politics 1990's style and it isn't working.

McCain should be winning by 20-30 points since he has the stage to himself. This is when he should be shoring support and it isn't happening.

As far as Hillary, well ............ Hillary is just Hillary. She ran a campaign as if she was running against George Bush and either couldn't or wouldn't switch gears. And that's the kind of president she would be too.

I like your opinion better, but I've been hearing a lot of "election fatigue" around me. If people are tired of it now, can you imagine how sick of it they'll be by November? I overheard someone say at work this morning that they were glad the Pope was on TV all weekend because it pushed Hillary and Obama off-and they're not even Catholic! :lmao:
 
I like your opinion better, but I've been hearing a lot of "election fatigue" around me. If people are tired of it now, can you imagine how sick of it they'll be by November? I overheard someone say at work this morning that they were glad the Pope was on TV all weekend because it pushed Hillary and Obama off-and they're not even Catholic! :lmao:

I wonder if McCain thinks its a blessing he is getting a free pass by the media while Clinton/Obama fight it out. The fact that polls are either tied, or McCain is up or down by a few probably boasts well for Democratic nominee -we are having an all-out primary dog fight while he is free to campaign, relatively unchallenged and still can't pull out a statstical lead - RCP has Obama up 0.6%.
 
I love you, Fits, but I don't agree with you at all. The voters are paying attention. This is reflected in every debate and every poll. Americans are engaged in the issues and the November election. Politics has changed.

However, the message hasn't been received by McCain, the Republicans, or for that matter, Hillary Clinton. They're still playing politics 1990's style and it isn't working.

McCain should be winning by 20-30 points since he has the stage to himself. This is when he should be shoring support and it isn't happening.

As far as Hillary, well ............ Hillary is just Hillary. She ran a campaign as if she was running against George Bush and either couldn't or wouldn't switch gears. And that's the kind of president she would be too.

Well don't tell that to any of the resident righties over on the Con thread. Based on what's happening in the current media cycle and flying in the face of every poll out there that shows Obama either beating or tied with McCain, they seem completely convinced that ol' Maverick (the guy they all couldn't stand a couple month ago) is going to take the election standing on his head...
 

Well don't tell that to any of the resident righties over on the Con thread. Based on what's happening in the current media cycle and flying in the face of every poll out there that shows Obama either beating or tied with McCain, they seem completely convinced that ol' Maverick (the guy they all couldn't stand a couple month ago) is going to take the election standing on his head...

Not only that thread, but did you read the thread with the poll about which party will win? Lots of interesting posts there.
 
I saw a clip of a Hillary speech today (must have been in PA) and she inferred that if Obama can't stand the heat, he needs to get out of the kitchen. :rotfl: :lmao:

And sorry if that was already mentioned, I didn't feel like going back and catching up on pages and pages. :)
 
Not only that thread, but did you read the thread with the poll about which party will win? Lots of interesting posts there.


I honestly think McCain will lose, based on his stance on Iraq alone.

People want out of there and they want our men and women home NOW. If he continues the Bush strategy (freezing troops by not coming home, must "win" at all costs, etc) he'll lose for sure.

Not to mention all the other nonsense he spouts and people lap it up and think what he's saying actually makes sense. :confused3
 
Well don't tell that to any of the resident righties over on the Con thread. Based on what's happening in the current media cycle and flying in the face of every poll out there that shows Obama either beating or tied with McCain, they seem completely convinced that ol' Maverick (the guy they all couldn't stand a couple month ago) is going to take the election standing on his head...

Sad to say, it isn't only the Republicans who are suffering from a "happy juice" hangover.

Facts are facts and numbers are numbers. Apparently, they mean nothing to some.
 
I like your opinion better, but I've been hearing a lot of "election fatigue" around me. If people are tired of it now, can you imagine how sick of it they'll be by November? I overheard someone say at work this morning that they were glad the Pope was on TV all weekend because it pushed Hillary and Obama off-and they're not even Catholic! :lmao:

I hear a lot of "I wish it was over" too. However, the same people who wish it were over are the same ones who tune into the debates and political shows every and discuss them at length.

I think politics has changed. The one who realizes that and uses that the most will be the one to take it all.

PS: It isn't McCain or Hillary. Neither one of them is capable of switching gears or "flying by the seat of their pants".
 
I may be off-base here, so maybe you folks can help me out.

Except for spending alot of money, is this contested race really bad for the party?

The way I see it, the more they battle it out, the more dirty laundry they air against the other. They get it out in the open now, rather than waiting for the Repukes to do it.

Also, the McCain camp has to continue to do research ops on both candidates, spending more money than they would if our nominee was already decided. The DNC I'm sure has had a field day gathering their research on McCain and building their strategy, regardless of who our nominee is.

I know that there are segments of both Clinton and Obama supporters who say that if their candidate doesn't get the nod, they refuse to vote for the other. I think that when Nov. comes, most people will support the Dem. nominee, no matter who it is. I know I will. If Obama loses, I will be upset, crawl into my hole, so-to-speak, to lick my wounds for a little while, then I'll come out swinging for Clinton.

In my experience, a family in conflict gather the wagons around them when an outside force is attacking. That's what I see happening in the Dem. party when the dust settles.

So are there other negatives here that I'm missing to this contest continuing? Honestly, I would be perfectly happy if PA delivers a blow-out win tomorrow - and I plan to do my part to help!
 
Oh please.... Clinton's Campaign manager is on CNN saying how Pennsylvania is one of the "important states" and when she wins there, her electoral college numbers have gone up further :rolleyes1 Uh, okay, some of these states will never go red, some of the red states will go blue, and some of them are toss up's. Hillary still doesn't win against McCain in Florida based on recent polling, so she should be touting this too greatly (Florida and Michigan were of course mentioned :rolleyes1 )

Has everyone seen the infamous Youtube video of Rendell praising Farakahn? On the one hand she bashes Obama's pastor for giving Farakahn an award, while the guy she's been traipsing around with is a big fan of his :lmao:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DXum_-8I1TA

Yasmina, to answer your question IMHO, the DNC is broke, and people are not contributing because they are still giving to their candidate, which means the DNC's hands are largely tied when trying to fight McCain.

As for family's coming together, most of my family hasn't spoken in at least 8 years and as much as 20, in my biological family, coming together isn't something we do. Your point well taken, some will sit out and some won't. I think early on, there was less animosity to the candidates, and that sadly has grown, and grown in exponential ways.
 
I saw a clip of a Hillary speech today (must have been in PA) and she inferred that if Obama can't stand the heat, he needs to get out of the kitchen. :rotfl: :lmao:

And sorry if that was already mentioned, I didn't feel like going back and catching up on pages and pages. :)

Funny how Ms. "Why do you always call on me instead of the other guys?" suddenly wants to bring it on? Seems that she whined for months, now she's pointing the finger at him? (oops, maybe pointing the finger isn't the best choice of terms, given that ridiculous thread a day or so ago.)
 
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

Check out the video of that blowhole Ed Rendell telling college students that college students are drinking the kool-aid when they are supporting Obama.

Yet, he calls McCain "exceptional." :sad2:
Ed Rendell is a bit much these days. His over the top loyalty to his Hillary sometimes really crosses the line. All he needs is a beret and maybe he can wait for her, breathlessly in the crowd. :rotfl:
Seriously, this stuff hurts the democratic party in the long run. New voters identify first with a candidate, then the party. What new voter appreciates being told they're a koolaid drinker? Thanks Ed.
 
Have you seen the Michael Moore endorsement?

Over the past two months, the actions and words of Hillary Clinton have gone from being merely disappointing to downright disgusting. I guess the debate last week was the final straw.

I've watched Senator Clinton and her husband play this game of appealing to the worst side of white people, but last Wednesday, when she hurled the name "Farrakhan" out of nowhere, well that's when the silly season came to an early end for me. She said the "F" word to scare white people, pure and simple. Of course, Obama has no connection to Farrakhan. But, according to Senator Clinton, Obama's pastor does -- AND the "church bulletin" once included a Los Angeles Times op-ed from some guy with Hamas! No, not the church bulletin!

This sleazy attempt to smear Obama was brilliantly explained the following night by Stephen Colbert. He pointed out that if Obama is supported by Ted Kennedy, who is Catholic, and the Catholic Church is led by a Pope who was in the Hitler Youth, that can mean only one thing: OBAMA LOVES HITLER!
Yes, Senator Clinton, that's how you sounded. Like you were nuts. Like you were a bigot stoking the fires of stupidity. How sad that I would ever have to write those words about you. You have devoted your life to good causes and good deeds. And now to throw it all away for an office you can't win unless you smear the black man so much that the superdelegates cry "Uncle (Tom)" and give it all to you.

But that can't happen. You cast your die when you voted to start this bloody war. When you did that you were like Moses who lost it for a moment and, because of that, was prohibited from entering the Promised Land.
How sad for a country that wanted to see the first woman elected to the White House. That day will come -- but it won't be you. We'll have to wait for the current Democratic governor of Kansas to run in 2016 (you read it here first!).

There are those who say Obama isn't ready, or he's voted wrong on this or that. But that's looking at the trees and not the forest. What we are witnessing is not just a candidate but a profound, massive public movement for change. My endorsement is more for Obama The Movement than it is for Obama the candidate.

That is not to take anything away from this exceptional man. But what's going on is bigger than him at this point, and that's a good thing for the country. Because, when he wins in November, that Obama Movement is going to have to stay alert and active. Corporate America is not going to give up their hold on our government just because we say so. President Obama is going to need a nation of millions to stand behind him.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/21/michael-moore-endorses-ob_n_97732.html
 
Catch the latest excuse Hillary has come up with in her saga "A Funny Thing Happened On My Way To My Coronation"?

Clinton Slams Democratic Activists At Private Fundraiser

At a small closed-door fundraiser after Super Tuesday, Sen. Hillary Clinton blamed what she called the "activist base" of the Democratic Party -- and MoveOn.org in particular -- for many of her electoral defeats, saying activists had "flooded" state caucuses and "intimidated" her supporters, according to an audio recording of the event obtained by The Huffington Post.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/celeste-fremon/clinton-slams-democratic_b_97484.html
It appears, Hillary blames "Democratic party activists and Moveon.org" for her losses.

Not her crappy campaign.

Not her phony claims to "experience".

Not her knack for throwing a turd and watching it become a boomerang ........... over and over and over again.

Not her lying about being under fire leading to questions as to why she would take her daughter on such a dangerous trip.

Not her claims to be against NAFTA when the record shows she actively lobbied for it.

Not her vote on that disgrace of a bankruptcy bill.

Not her vote on the Kyle-Lieberman amendment.

Nooo, it's a vast leftwing conspiracy. Poor Hillary. If it isn't a rightwing conspiracy that's out to get her, it's a leftwing conspiracy.

It's scary to think she actually may just believe this as this may give her a greater claim to LaLa Land than even Bush. And that's saying something.

Actually, it's the voters who should get the blame. Without them, she'd be on the way to being measured for her crown. Damn voters should've stayed home and just handed her the nomination by affirmation :lmao:
 
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