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[lilyv]

Sorry, it's a slow day at work.



She loved Texas the night of VA/MD/DC but when her campaign actually read the rules of TX, they realized they had no idea it was so complicated. Again, why was she so poorly ready? I assume ready on day one doesn't apply to her campaign.

It's not fair that Clinton or her campaign staffers have to read the rules. She was supposed to be the nominee, already.

 

[Laura]

I assume ready on day one doesn't apply to her campaign.

 

[lilyv]

I'll tell ya this - if I had kids, I wouldn't want her answering the phone and sending them into Iraq by voting to give Bush authorization for the war.

Good point. I feel confident Obama will continue choosing the high road.
I watched that video, and it just reminded me of how tired I am of the same old
nasty politics of the last 20 years. It's 2008, and it's time for change!

 

[MassJester]

I'll tell ya this - if I had kids, I wouldn't want her answering the phone and sending them into Iraq by voting to give Bush authorization for the war.

I think the counter point absolutely has to be that experience is of no value if it is experience making the wrong decisions. Wrong on NAFTA, wrong on the War doesn't make for a right choice at the ballot box.

 

[Honu]

It's not fair that Clinton or her campaign staffers have to read the rules. She was supposed to be the nominee, already.

It does come off like that.

I just cannot imagine wanting to put someone in the Whitehouse who has shown such poor judgement and pathetic management skills through every bend of this campaign. If she can't do this, what makes people think she can do that? But in Hillary's world only her good traits and experience count and the bad ones are non-issues.

 

[lilyv]

Obama responds to Hillary's questionable scare tactics...

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/obama_respnds_i_will_never_use.php

"I don't think these ads will work this time because the question is not about picking up the phone. The question is, what kind of judgment will you exercise when you pick up that phone. In fact, we have had a red phone moment; it was the decision to invade Iraq.

Senator Clinton gave the wrong answer. George Bush gave the wrong answer. John McCain gave the wrong answer. I stood up and I said that a war in Iraq would be unwise. It cost us thousands of lives and billions of dollars. I said that it would distract us from the real threat that we face, and that we should take the fight to al Qaeda in Afghanistan. That’s the judgment I made on the most important foreign policy decision of our generation.

Obama also makes another implicit comparison between Hillary's ad and Rovian scaremongering:

I will never see the threat of terrorism as a way to scare up votes, because it's a threat that should rally the country around our common enemies. That is the judgment we need at 3:00 a.m., and that's the judgment that I am running for as president of the United States of America."

 

[NewJersey]

I finally figured out why I thought you were from Texas! I got you and Planogirl confused as the same person, even though your screen names are nowhere similar.

I think the counter point absolutely has to be that experience is of no value if it is experience making the wrong decisions. Wrong on NAFTA, wrong on the War doesn't make for a right choice at the ballot box.

Experience doesn't matter when it leads to poor judgment.

 

[NewJersey]

Obama also makes another implicit comparison between Hillary's ad and Rovian scaremongering:

I will never see the threat of terrorism as a way to scare up votes, because it's a threat that should rally the country around our common enemies. That is the judgment we need at 3:00 a.m., and that's the judgment that I am running for as president of the United States of America."

I just said outloud to myself, "Hell yes!"

 

[Laura]

I finally figured out why I thought you were from Texas! I got you and Planogirl confused as the same person, even though your screen names are nowhere similar.

That's funny! But she's a Hillary supporter, if I recall correctly.

 

[NewJersey]

That's funny! But she's a Hillary supporter, if I recall correctly.

Haha yep - another thing I should have picked up on.

 

[NewJersey]

*Snap*

Another 3 a.m. call

My colleague Carrie Budoff Brown e-mails from an Obama campaign conference call (big day for conference calls):

A reporter asked whether Clinton should drop out after Ohio and Texas. Obama adviser Richard Danzig responded:

"I would encourage you on March 5 to call Sen. Clinton at 3 a.m. and ask that question."

and this

A reader sends in this Bill Clinton line from 2004:

Now one of Clinton’s laws of politics is this: If one candidate’s trying to scare you and the other one’s trying to get you to think, if one candidate’s appealing to your fears and the other one’s appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope.

 

[MassJester]

Good stuff

 

[Fitswimmer]

Senator Obama has a lot in common with Governor Bill Clinton. He too was viewed as inexperienced, as an empty suit that was only good for making speeches and making all kinds of promises about hope and change......

 

[Laura]

Senator Obama has a lot in common with Governor Bill Clinton. He too was viewed as inexperienced, as an empty suit that was only good for making speeches and making all kinds of promises about hope and change......

Watch about 2 minutes in:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=148738&title=obama-wins-sc

 

[lilyv]

(Lets see...Obama has won 11 in a row...but that's irrelevant.)


"Who is Texas and Ohio “must win” for again? Hillary Clinton’s chief surrogate, former President Bill Clinton, has said she has to win both Texas and Ohio. Harold Ickes, a top aide, said, "If we lose in Texas and Ohio, Mrs. Clinton will have to make her decision as to whether she goes forward or not.” Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a Clinton supporter, said in order to win Pennsylvania, she’s got to win Tuesday."

So Clinton must win, right? Clinton Campaign Chief Strategist Mark Penn today released a memo to the media, though, with the subject, “Obama Must-Wins.”

“If he cannot win all of these states with all this effort, there's a problem,” Penn writes. And not only does he have to win, they have to be “decisive,” according to the memo.

“Should Senator Obama fail to score decisive victories with all of the resources and effort he is bringing to bear, the message will be clear,” Penn continues, “Democrats, the majority of whom have favored Hillary in the primary contests held to date, have their doubts about Senator Obama and are having second thoughts about him as a prospective standard-bearer.”

Obama has won a majority of nominating contests, including caucuses, but note Penn’s use of “primary.”


Just how dumb does the Clinton campaign think voters are?


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/29/716900.aspx

 

[Honu]

Mark Penn is a dolt.

 

[LoraJ]

That is just shameful. She's just stooped to a new low. It's so transparently snotty-hope it totally backfires on her campaign.

If I were on the fence as to whom to vote for, that ad would send me over to the Obama side. So tired of the scare tactics.

 

[NewJersey]

Watch about 2 minutes in:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=148738&title=obama-wins-sc

I love it - "your campaign was based on HOPE!"

 

[NewJersey]

Senator Obama has a lot in common with Governor Bill Clinton. He too was viewed as inexperienced, as an empty suit that was only good for making speeches and making all kinds of promises about hope and change......

I agree, and the thing is, Obama has the kind of experience I am looking for.

 

[Laura]

Just how dumb does the Clinton campaign think voters are?

Well, you know we're just kool-aid drinkers who faint while watching Obama's speeches and can't articulate one coherent reason why we prefer him over the competition.