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[NewJersey]

LOL, thanks! I kept looking and looking and looking for that thread. I kept going all the way thru page 1 and 2 and thought I was losing my mind.

Me too

 

[zulaya]

Ok, I was just browsing the Huffington Post and came across one blog/opinion that talked about Obama acting more like he's the nominee rather than Clinton's equal and taking his message to her supporters rather than to her (or some such like that).

Not questioning that part of the blog/opinion...

However, the end of the piece said something about Obama and Clinton being hitched at the end of it all anyway.

I'm a total novice at this, you guys.

After all that's gone on, would Obama really ask her to be his VP? And would she even consider it?

I just don't get the vibe that she'd settle for 2nd place. Do any of you?

 

[NewJersey]

Ok, I was just browsing the Huffington Post and came across one blog/opinion that talked about Obama acting more like he's the nominee rather than Clinton's equal and taking his message to her supporters rather than to her (or some such like that).

Not questioning that part of the blog/opinion...

However, the end of the piece said something about Obama and Clinton being hitched at the end of it all anyway.

I'm a total novice at this, you guys.

After all that's gone on, would Obama really ask her to be his VP? And would she even consider it?

I just don't get the vibe that she'd settle for 2nd place. Do any of you?

Yeah, I don't really see her settling for VP since it'd be Obama, Clinton, Clinton - way too many cooks in the kitchen. I could see her becoming Senate Majority Leader unless she keeps turning off people in the party.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

Ok, I was just browsing the Huffington Post and came across one blog/opinion that talked about Obama acting more like he's the nominee rather than Clinton's equal and taking his message to her supporters rather than to her (or some such like that).

Not questioning that part of the blog/opinion...

However, the end of the piece said something about Obama and Clinton being hitched at the end of it all anyway.

I'm a total novice at this, you guys.

After all that's gone on, would Obama really ask her to be his VP? And would she even consider it?

I just don't get the vibe that she'd settle for 2nd place. Do any of you?

Barack went on the record a couple months ago stating that he probably wouldn't offer Clinton the Veep position, as he wouldn't want Bubba rattling around the Admiral's House reminding everyone how he would have done things differently.

 

[zulaya]

OK.

But would the DNC pressure him to ask her, thinking it would keep her supporters with the party rather than bailing completely?

Or does the DNC pretty much stay out of the VP selection process?

 

[NewJersey]

OK.

But would the DNC pressure him to ask her, thinking it would keep her supporters with the party rather than bailing completely?

Or does the DNC pretty much stay out of the VP selection process?

Well they might be able to create some sort of agreement between the candidates but at this point, I don't see either of them taking that.

 

[lilyv]

Bill Clinton is in the battle-and he doesn't give a rip. His true character is showing..and you know, you'd almost think he's the candidate.

"You know, I don't give a rip about all this name calling that's going on," he said."
"If a politician doesn't wanna get beat up, he shouldn't run for office," the former president said. "Let's just saddle up and have an argument. What's the matter with that?"

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=4530977&page=2

 

[NewJersey]

Bill Clinton is in the battle-and he doesn't give a rip. His true character is showing..and you know, you'd almost think he's the candidate.

"You know, I don't give a rip about all this name calling that's going on," he said."
"If a politician doesn't wanna get beat up, he shouldn't run for office," the former president said. "Let's just saddle up and have an argument. What's the matter with that?"

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=4530977&page=2

And to think I used to support him?

 

[marybet]

The DNC can't get Hillary to stop bashing Obama, or to drop out since she can't win. I don't think they will be able to have any say in the VP pick.

Unless she wants to be the first woman VP I don't see her doing it. She could have much more power in the Senate.

I hate to say it but I think Obama needs an older white guy, not McCain old but 50 or 60. I think it will help some of the undecideds feel better if there is someone who looks like all the previous POTUS on the ticket.

 

[lilyv]

And to think I used to support him?

I think the Clintons felt they were entitled to the Presidency in 08. They are not going to leave graciously. He's really whittling away at his legacy one ugly sound bite at a time. He really does have a cruel, nasty side. Sad.

 

[lilyv]

The DNC can't get Hillary to stop bashing Obama, or to drop out since she can't win. I don't think they will be able to have any say in the VP pick.

Unless she wants to be the first woman VP I don't see her doing it. She could have much more power in the Senate.

I hate to say it but I think Obama needs an older white guy, not McCain old but 50 or 60. I think it will help some of the undecideds feel better if there is someone who looks like all the previous POTUS.

What do you think about Richardson? Dodd? Edwards? (I realize Edwards doesn't fit the age range, don't know Richardson's age.) Any others?

 

[zulaya]

I like John Edwards. I think he had a great message.

That being said, I think he'd be a great Attorney General. Just the kind of attack dog you need in that kind of position. And I mean that with the greatest respect. I think he'd be the best one to go after the types of cases that an AG is supposed to go after.

In reality, I know I don't know enough about anyone else for VP. That's why I read this thread because a lot of you seem much more educated than I on some of these subjects.

I'm interested in hearing what everyone has to say on that subject.

One related question: Why a 50yo-60yo white man? Pastorgate?

I thought early on, Obama was doing well among white men, especially highly educated middle/upper class. Did I remember that wrong?

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

Two senators on the same ticket rarely work out. You've go to bring someone in from the "real world". I'm sticking with a red state governor...someone like Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius. Barack could make the feminist "Hillary or bust" voters happy without actually having to bring Sen Clinton along for the ride.

 

[Honu]

Two senators on the same ticket rarely work out. You've go to bring someone in from the "real world". I'm sticking with a red state governor...someone like Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius. Barack could make the feminist "Hillary or bust" voters happy without actually having to bring Sen Clinton along for the ride.

I really like Sebelius, but I don't see her as someone that would be ready (experience wise) to take over, should something happen. I'm betting on a middle aged white man with foreign policy experience.

 

[Reflection]

What do you think about Richardson? Dodd? Edwards? (I realize Edwards doesn't fit the age range, don't know Richardson's age.) Any others?

I'd be happy to see Edwards, who was my preferred candidate. When he drop out, I switched over to Obama.

 

[NewJersey]

I really like Sebelius, but I don't see her as someone that would be ready (experience wise) to take over, should something happen. I'm betting on a middle aged white man with foreign policy experience.

Yeah, I was going to post the same thing. I'd like a Biden/Dodd type myself or someone from out west although no one comes to mind besides Richardson.

 

[marybet]

I like John Edwards. I think he had a great message.

That being said, I think he'd be a great Attorney General. Just the kind of attack dog you need in that kind of position. And I mean that with the greatest respect. I think he'd be the best one to go after the types of cases that an AG is supposed to go after.

In reality, I know I don't know enough about anyone else for VP. That's why I read this thread because a lot of you seem much more educated than I on some of these subjects.

I'm interested in hearing what everyone has to say on that subject.

One related question: Why a 50yo-60yo white man? Pastorgate?

I thought early on, Obama was doing well among white men, especially highly educated middle/upper class. Did I remember that wrong?

Partly because of Pastorgate but also because I think there are still people concerned about having a black president and having a white man on the ticket will make them feel better about voting for Obama.

I don't know who it should be. I really like Richardson and Dodd is good. Someone with foreign policy experience and maybe even a war hero, just to balance things out.

 

[OrlandoMike]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY

A friend sent me this video, hysterical!

Get your cameras out kids, lets all make a youtube video saying Obama partied with us!

 

[PixieDust32]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY

A friend sent me this video, hysterical!

Get your cameras out kids, lets all make a youtube video saying Obama partied with us!

OMG! We can say the same thing about pretty much anybody! Some people need a life big time.

 

[Laura]

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/26/821438.aspx

Hillary Clinton is sporting the lowest personal ratings of the campaign. Moreover, her 37 percent positive rating is the lowest the NBC/WSJ poll has recorded since March 2001, two months after she was elected to the U.S. Senate from New York.
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Our pollsters found that for the second poll in a row, more than 20 percent of Clinton and Obama supporters say they would support McCain when he's matched up against the other Democrat. There is clearly some hardening of feelings among some of the most core supporters of both Democrats, though it may be Obama voters, who are more bitter in the long run.

Why? Because among Obama voters, Clinton has a net-negative personal rating (35-43) while Clinton voters have a net-positive view of Obama (50-29). Taken together, this appears to be evidence that Obama, intially, should have the easier time uniting the party than Clinton.