Nowhere to go.

[StephMK]

If his family is not willing to pay or claim him, then why does it matter what Muslim customs are? If it's that important, they should be paying. If they choose not to claim him, then he should get the minimum service needed to dispose of the body. I would respect the customs under different circumstances, but in this case, why is anyone outside of the family obligated to fulfill any type of wishes?

 

[Spacepest]

Cremate him and send the ashes to me. I'll take them to the local dog park and spread them around the trees and other objects that are high enough for a dog to hike its leg.

 

[aprilgail2]

Toss him in the landfill with the rest of the trash.

 

[teller80]

If his family is not willing to pay or claim him, then why does it matter what Muslim customs are? If it's that important, they should be paying. If they choose not to claim him, then he should get the minimum service needed to dispose of the body. I would respect the customs under different circumstances, but in this case, why is anyone outside of the family obligated to fulfill any type of wishes?

Toss him in the landfill with the rest of the trash.

Double

 

[snarlingcoyote]

Islamic custom is to bury the body whole, typically wrapped in a shroud but no casket. The body is to face Mecca. Cremation is not allowed. Graves are usually unadorned or have a very simple grave marking, no elaborate headstones or anything like that.

This is what I recall from a History of Islam class I took in college many moons ago.

A close co-worker of mine is Muslin. He belongs to a sort of burying club in his mosque; everyone pays in and everyone gets buried in turn. Their burials are very, very green as well. (No caskets, not much in the way of headstones, no embalming etc.)

Since the brothers did belong to a mosque, I have to wonder if maybe the mosque now doesn't want to do the burying because they're scared of getting bombed or vandalized even facing worse outcomes, like long-standing community hatred of my mosque. If I were a member, I'd be very vocal in my opposition.

We seem to bounce from group to group that it's acceptable to hate, and right now its seems to that Muslims are that group, so if I belonged to the mosque, I'd be scared and I'd do just about anything to keep him from being associated with me and mine.

 

[MIGrandma]

Toss him in the landfill with the rest of the trash.

I'd go along with that.

After what he did to so many innocent people, he doesn't deserve any kind of proper burial. Let alone anything that American taxpayers would have to pay for.

 

[Zandy595]

I'm voting for a galvanized garbage can and a C.O.D one-way ticket back to Nowherestan or whatever the trash heap he came from. He's probably a national hero there....let them take care of it.

I understand your anger, but the country he came from does not condone his actions and is ashamed of what he did.

If his family is not willing to pay or claim him, then why does it matter what Muslim customs are? If it's that important, they should be paying. If they choose not to claim him, then he should get the minimum service needed to dispose of the body. I would respect the customs under different circumstances, but in this case, why is anyone outside of the family obligated to fulfill any type of wishes?

ITA.

 

[crashbb]

If his family is not willing to pay or claim him, then why does it matter what Muslim customs are? If it's that important, they should be paying. If they choose not to claim him, then he should get the minimum service needed to dispose of the body. I would respect the customs under different circumstances, but in this case, why is anyone outside of the family obligated to fulfill any type of wishes?

His family (uncle) did claim him and is willing to pay. The problem is that they cannot find a cemetery willing to take the body. Even just the title of the posted article says so "Tamerlan Tsarnaev's Muslim Burial Rites, Funeral Arranged By Uncle".

What I don't understand it why the media is publicizing the name of the funeral home (and, implied, that it will publish the name of the cemetery). They didn't for the Newtown shooter - as pointed out by a PP he is in an unknown plot. Actually, from what I remember, he was someone who wasn't claimed by his family and was buried using tax payer money.

 

[npmommie]

They should figure out a way to get his body back to his parents in Russia.

last night's news said that they can't send him back to Russia because Russia will not take in a known terrorist dead or alive.

 

[foreUT]

They should figure out a way to get his body back to his parents in Russia.

last night's news said that they can't send him back to Russia because Russia will not take in a known terrorist dead or alive.

http://news.yahoo.com/finding-burial-plot-bomb-suspect-struggle-062404648.html

Thanks, for the info, npmommie; I was thinking the same way as Pea-n-Me. I could not understand the uncle's insistence on his being buried in Cambridge. He only lived there less than 40% of his life, obviously despised the people who lived there, and his burial there would be a constant reminder, imo, that he maimed and killed innocents just because he felt entitled because of his personal beliefs. For me, empathy for the living victims would out weigh Tsarnaev's "need" to have his final resting place mere miles from where he destroyed lives. I agree with other posters that an unknown location in the middle of nowhere that is never disclosed would be best, if he cannot be sent back to Russia. I just hope taxpayers don't have to spend one penny more for this evil grifter.

 

[mhsjax]

I'm voting for a galvanized garbage can and a C.O.D one-way ticket back to Nowherestan or whatever the trash heap he came from. He's probably a national hero there....let them take care of it.

That may be the best post I have seen in a very long time.

 

[mhsjax]

Islamic custom is to bury the body whole, typically wrapped in a shroud but no casket. The body is to face Mecca. Cremation is not allowed. Graves are usually unadorned or have a very simple grave marking, no elaborate headstones or anything like that.

This is what I recall from a History of Islam class I took in college many moons ago.

Well is this guys case, I say who cares. I say we foot the bill and cremate him, only because they are so against it. So lets do it.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Your wish is their command, mhsjax

Someone has started a fund to send him back to Russia

http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...body-russia/69wJt0hUJ3fOfGegsvynSO/story.html

 

[MrsDuck]

His wife/family should pay for his burial expenses just like any other family when death occurs...

As to where to put him, Russia?

 

[Pea-n-Me]

last night's news said that they can't send him back to Russia because Russia will not take in a known terrorist dead or alive.

Maybe they'll have to mail his parents the ashes if that's the only way to get him there.

 

[PollyannaMom]

last night's news said that they can't send him back to Russia because Russia will not take in a known terrorist dead or alive.

Yep, I heard that as well.

I also saw the uncle on the news, and he didn't seem to be showing any support for his nephew, just a concern that any dead body should be buried. (Which I guess I have to agree with in terms of public health. - A decaying body has got to be some sort of hazzard, doesn't it?) If anything, he looked disgusted to me that he had to be the one to authorize it.

But I definitely support the rights of individual cemetaries to refuse him. They would be setting themselves up for too much vandalism, disturbing of the peaceful nature of their land for the families of others buried there, etc.

I guess I'm for this:

...I think they should bury him at sea like they did with Bin Laden.

 

[eliza61]

1. Taxpayers are probably already on the hook. I doubt very seriously that this funeral home is doing this out of the kidness of their heart so you guys need to let that one go. from experience every day he is in storage this funeral home is charging the city of boston or the state of Mass, the bill.

2. previous poster is correct, No other country will take him so like it or not, we're stuck with him. contrary to what we may want we can't simply ship him some where. I really think we waited to long for this. they should have disposed of the body immediately after he was shot and the autopsy done.

My vote is to simply cremate him and call it a day. I think the only reason binladen was given a burial at sea was to not anger/offend any Muslim countries and to not provide a place to make him a matyr.

 

[foreUT]

Yep, I heard that as well.

I also saw the uncle on the news, and he didn't seem to be showing any support for his nephew, just a concern that any dead body should be buried. (Which I guess I have to agree with in terms of public health. - A decaying body has got to be some sort of hazzard, doesn't it?) If anything, he looked disgusted to me that he had to be the one to authorize it.

But I definitely support the rights of individual cemetaries to refuse him. They would be setting themselves up for too much vandalism, disturbing of the peaceful nature of their land for the families of others buried there, etc.

I guess I'm for this:

I would have a lot more respect for the uncle and his "dilemma" if he had not been so insistent, initially, that Tsarnaev be buried in Cambridge. For me, if a relative had committed such a heinous act, I would be more concerned about the sensitivities of the victims, than the evil nephew's right to be buried in a town he hated. Why didn't he quietly take him to MD? I am having a hard time overcoming my impression that the entire family is much more concerned about their own misfortune, personally and as a family, than the innocent victims of this abhorrent, dead monster.

 

[foreUT]

1. Taxpayers are probably already on the hook. I doubt very seriously that this funeral home is doing this out of the kidness of their heart so you guys need to let that one go. from experience every day he is in storage this funeral home is charging the city of boston or the state of Mass, the bill.

2. previous poster is correct, No other country will take him so like it or not, we're stuck with him. contrary to what we may want we can't simply ship him some where.

My vote is to simply cremate him and call it a day. I think the only reason binladen was given a burial at sea was to not anger/offend any Muslim countries and to not provide a place to make him a matyr.

Don't believe the City of Boston is currently on the hook for any costs, since his body was claimed. That appears to be the reason that Mom and Dad didn't get the "independent autopsy". They learned that they would have to pay for it.

 

[joviroxx]

Islamic custom is to bury the body whole, typically wrapped in a shroud but no casket. The body is to face Mecca. Cremation is not allowed. Graves are usually unadorned or have a very simple grave marking, no elaborate headstones or anything like that.

This is what I recall from a History of Islam class I took in college many moons ago.

That's correct. Muslims do not cremate.

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Yeah well, I don't think the Islamic faith allows or believes in building bombs and taking out innocent people either.

Cremate him and send him to his parents.....