Not your usual trip report -- new post 8-20, just a heads-up to the nice scooter folk

Thanks for a well-written report with a different perspective. :thumbsup2 The tongue-in-cheek tone and slight sarcasm made this seem like a REAL account of what happens on a vacation. Nothing is ever perfect. It was a refreshing break from the syruppy sweet, la-la-la, we live the perfect life reports, and I preferred your format to the blow-by-blow reports of how many times little Johnny needed to use the potty. I could tell by your first post that you had a good time, but enjoyed the second post nonetheless. Thanks for the info and the laughs. Rock on! :woohoo:
 
I have a couple of things I would like to add here.

First, I liked your report. It is different. And from the people who have posted, we can see proof that not everyone likes the blow by blow descriptions etc. I'm glad you wrote the way you did.

I too like to comment on the behavior of people I experience while at the world. It's pretty dadgum funny at times.

And, as others have said, it would be a pretty boring world if all of us agreed about everything. If you've read my trip reports, you already know that our 4 year old has been to WDW like 14 times. He loves it. We love it. We always said, as you did that we would not take him until he was at least 5 and could walk all day on his own. We should have known that wouldn't last.

I just felt compelled to write. Not sure why - cause I haven't said anything different from the others who have already responded. But I enjoyed the report. Just cause we may not agree on everything doesn't make either of us more right than the other. I had to ride on a scooter for one trip - not because of anything anyone could see, however if I had pulled out my hiddedn ailment, I think everyone would have understood. It did, however, give me a totally different perspective on life being able to walk.

I think its something everyone should have to experience just once - to help us see out of someone elses eyes.

Thansk again for your report!

Blessings!
Mark
 
Deebo said:
Thanks for a well-written report with a different perspective. :thumbsup2 The tongue-in-cheek tone and slight sarcasm made this seem like a REAL account of what happens on a vacation. Nothing is ever perfect. It was a refreshing break from the syruppy sweet, la-la-la, we live the perfect life reports, and I preferred your format to the blow-by-blow reports of how many times little Johnny needed to use the potty. I could tell by your first post that you had a good time, but enjoyed the second post nonetheless. Thanks for the info and the laughs. Rock on! :woohoo:


This seems a little unnecessarily mean and disrespectful.
 
I actually do enjoy reading some of the play-by-play trip reports; however, yours was a witty change of pace. It was kind of exciting to read something so controversial on the boards. If the reader took the report in the spirit in which it was written, offense should not have been taken. Thanks for the laugh.
 

Now that I have had a little time to thoughtfully reflect on the weeklong Disney trip (meaning I have unpacked and caught up on email at work, though have yet to figure out exactly why a member of our party -- apparently me -- bought a handheld device whose only purpose is to spin and blink), I thought I'd add just a few more tidbits, mining the same vein offered in the first post. I will be dropping a little more personal info, but only inconsequential stuff you might hear on a first date.

ONE NIGHT, AT DINNER -- At Sci-Fi Dine Inn, these two things are true: large plates, tiny dining space. At least in those cars with counters in front and back seats. Once my son scraped off the stuff he did not want on his chicken sandwich, which was everything but the meat, he had very little room for the copious amounts of ketchup that accompany each of his meals. I struggled to find room to place discarded rib bones (ribs are OK, would recommend only if on dining plan), finally putting them atop the fries. Not a brilliant move given the lack of light that, while honest to the theme of a drive-in movie, is not conducive to the mixing of fries and rib bones. Be careful out there.

SAME NIGHT, SAME DINNER, NEW CONVERSATION (as trailers from 60s sci-fo movies played on the big screen): "Dad, did they really make these movies?"
"Yeah, they really did. And if I remember correctly, Frankenstein did defeat the space monster. And I'm not sure what went wrong with plans 1 through 8 from outer space, forcing them to rely on plan 9."
"How come no one invented color?"
"We were easily pleased back then."

SOUVENIRS: Given the plethora of overstuffed plastic Disney shopping bags we saw, we weren't the only ones buying stuff that, upon arriving home, would cause us to seriously question our savvy as consumers. In the past, I would give my son a set amount (anywhere from $10-$40, depending on duration and location of trip) to spend. It was a very successful tactic once I made it clear he could keep all excess cash. His spending plummeted. I would strongly suggest this method should you want to limit your children's spending, and not do what I did upon checking in -- giving signing privileges to a child whose credit worthiness is dependent upon a $10 weekly allowance. OK, I got a kick out of watching him sign for snacks and various souvenirs. But he is also deep in debt to the National Bank of Dad. We have since worked out a mutually beneficial payment schedule involving those chores Dad dislikes most. Everybody wins, especially when Dad is inside watching World Cup soccer as son mows lawn on 105-degree day.

PRESSURE TO HAVE HAPPIEST TIME ON EARTH: This trip had been 18 months in the planning (year added when, last July, son broke ankle 3 days prior to departure, and thankfully Disney and Southwest Airlines were very forgiving, especially Disney as we rebooked for this year at higher rate). Involved in that planning were travel guides, travel planners, officially licensed Disney vacation DVDs, and obsessive combing of Internet for any and all advice. But the most important reason we had a wonderful time in which conflicts, arguments and assorted meltdowns added up to zero, was willingness to depart from well-made plans. Armed with trip plans from the Unofficial Guide (a very useful tome, by the way), we were determined to follow them to the letter. And we did. For about an hour, when interests diverged and crowds grew larger than anticipated. Simple adjustments were made, like sitting on a bench to eat ice cream. Or ducking into a gift shop (seriously, no matter where you stand in the park, a souvenir shop will be in your line of sight) to buy something else we really didn't need. And on Sunday, we took a day off from the parks -- my son's request, though my initial reaction was "Nooo, we are here to have fun, dang it, the kind of fun available only to the thousands upon thousands lucky enough to be here". Yet that break is precisely what we needed.

WAIT UP: What separates Disney from other amusement parks, other than convincing parents a visit is a childhood rite, is the theming, and that is most apparent in the queues. This is what we found:
Best queues: Expedition Everest (enjoy your hour in a Tibetan village comprised of several rooms containing artifacts, photos and icons relating to climbing and a rather abominable and ill-tempered snowman); Test Track (loud and busy but fun); Rock n Roller coaster (due to background music your "meet" with Aerosmith); Haunted Mansion (still love the ghost host after all these years); and Dinosaur (finally, I am not the only fossil on display). Most deceptive: Astro Blasters. Winds along much further than it looks from the outside (though its deceptiveness pales to that of Roger Rabbit's Cartoon Spin in Disneyland, where you enter to find one rail separating you from the loading area, yet the queue runs on longer than the mysterious plots in Lost). Worst queue: Kilamanjaro Safari. Line moves slowly and is far too wide, resulting in much jostling from people attempting to protect thier place. Missed opportunity: Soarin'. Very bland.

RIDES AND ATTRACTIONS WITH WHICH WE WERE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED: We measure these rides on their superior standby-time-to-enjoyment ratio, taking into account expectation loads and levels of anticipation: People Mover in Tomorrowland, Maelstrom in World Showcase at Epcot, Journey into the Imagination at Epcot, Tower of Terror at Disney Studios (based on late-night, short-wait visit and comparisons to same ride at Disneyland); the stunt car show at Disney Studios, and the Great Movie Ride at the studios.

MOST DISAPPOINTING RIDES AND ATTRACTIONS: Space Mountain, Star Tours (even Obi Wan knew when it was time to give it up), Indiana Jones stunt show (fun, but way too much time setting up the action, and someone needs to rethink the long-winded audience participation), the Backlot Tour (we came all this way to see seamstresses?), and No. 1 with a bullet, Stitch's Great Escape.

With that I sign off, unless you have questions. If interested in a blog that's not your usual blog, I direct you to www.loseroldguy.com, humorous ramblings and observations from someone who knows enough not to try to make sense of everything.

Thanks, and have a magical life.
 
And again, I enjoyed this last installment. Your humor is great (remindful of my late brother's - he was such a card). and in response to BratTink's reply, I didn't think you were being cruel - just honest but we all have our opinions and it is great we can express them on here without stepping on toes (hopefully).
 
heaven2dc said:
And again, I enjoyed this last installment. Your humor is great (remindful of my late brother's - he was such a card). and in response to BratTink's reply, I didn't think you were being cruel - just honest but we all have our opinions and it is great we can express them on here without stepping on toes (hopefully).


Her use of "la la la" and "johnny's potty breaks" were directly referencing posters on this board and I find it again unnecessarily rude and disrepectful.
I wasn't directing this at the TR writer, I really liked his report, it was directed at the poster I quoted.
 
BratTink said:
Her use of "la la la" and "johnny's potty breaks" were directly referencing posters on this board and I find it again unnecessarily rude and disrepectful.
I wasn't directing this at the TR writer, I really liked his report, it was directed at the poster I quoted.

My apoligies if my comments were offensive. I was not referring to any posters on this board specifically, as I have learned to skip over the reports that are 'not my cup of tea'. That freedom of choice is what makes it great to live in the good old USA.
 
Toothboy,

Your reports were great!
I learned more about WDW in them than most others.
Anytime you have an opinion, others who don,t agree put you down.
That,s life, that's what people say!
I enjoyed your writings very much.

ski :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
 
I believe your opinions are valuable and I thought some of them were funny. I believe you should be cautious about judging scooter people becuase you do not know what put them in a certain situation. In any circumstance they are people and it is never nice to poke fun. I am glad you shared your opinions on the things that you did not like. I just wish you would share some of your opinions on the things you did like. You said you enjoyed your trip and there were many things you and your son enjoyed. I have been to WDW (sorry for the abbreviation) 47 times and will return at least that many more. Thereare things I like and things I do not like. I do however try and concentrate on the things I enjoy!
 
toothboy2k1 said:
ONE NIGHT, AT DINNER -- At Sci-Fi Dine Inn, these two things are true: large plates, tiny dining space. At least in those cars with counters in front and back seats. Once my son scraped off the stuff he did not want on his chicken sandwich, which was everything but the meat, he had very little room for the copious amounts of ketchup that accompany each of his meals. I struggled to find room to place discarded rib bones (ribs are OK, would recommend only if on dining plan), finally putting them atop the fries. Not a brilliant move given the lack of light that, while honest to the theme of a drive-in movie, is not conducive to the mixing of fries and rib bones. Be careful out there.


With that I sign off, unless you have questions. If interested in a blog that's not your usual blog, I direct you to www.loseroldguy.com, humorous ramblings and observations from someone who knows enough not to try to make sense of everything.

Thanks, and have a magical life.

ITA! This EXACT same thing hapened to me. While I love the atmosphere of the Sci Fi, I find it very difficult to eat there as well.
I must say that I went to your blog and was very impressed. But I think you just got me in trouble at work. :rotfl:
 
I guess I count myself among those who enjoyed reading your report until the end. We often go to DL with our young children (2 and 5) and are looking forward to our first WDW trip as a family next year. I suppose if I see someone holding a picket with a picture of a stroller with a circle and a line through it, I'll know it's you; otherwise, I guess you'll be exploring other parts of the planet.
 
I loved your TR toothboy......I am a disney world fanatic and go every year with the family.......just got back from port orleans riverside with my wife and two daughters age 7 and 3......I left my 1 year old son home cause he'd never remember it and I didn't want to waste all that $$$ on the little guy :woohoo: .....as for the 3 year old I only brought her so i could feel less embarrassed about asking belle, sleeping beauty, snow white, and jasmine for autographs and pictures........as for the strollers, i was the guy running at full speed, nipping peoples ankles, and sending elderly people flying.......WHY? Cause I gots to gets to Space Mountain before my fastpass expires!! Thats Why!!.......is that not a good enough excuse??? Also, although I'm not proud of it, i may have been the one who told my daughter that she better be having the best time of her life because I paid a fortune for the holiday.....but cut me some slack OK? My head was pounding....you see the night before, "Kid's Night Out" came to my room to look after the brats for a few hours and I got carried away with the wine at the California Grill :banana: ........and lastly, to those who require the scooters, god bless you and for those that take advantage of it, :sad2:
 
Toothboy......really enjoyed you report.

I liked your writing style and the good information.

:thumbsup2
 
Since a few people thought I concentrated a bit too much on the negative stuff, as I tend to do given my cynical nature (the glass is neither half empty nor half full, I am still waiting in line to order), I thought I'd share some of those moments that even now bring a smile to my face.

In-room coffeemakers are the hotel industry's gift to travelers everywhere. Waking up about an hour before my son gave me plenty of time to fill the coffeemaker's smallish reservoir with water and then nestle the little packet of coffee into the basket as if planting a seed of happiness that would soon blossom into a better mood. Once brewing was finished, I would pour a mug and then take my bedhead and USA Today out to the balcony (thanks to that free room upgrade) and enjoy a little quiet time. Well, except for that day when the maids left me two pouches of decaffeinated to zero pouches of the regular. The sun just didn't seem to shine as brightly that day. Well, at least I sure didn't.

On the second day we shopped, and my son saw that it was good because Dad was definitely going to be a pushover. He bought a Pirates of the Caribbean pocket watch, a good thing since he would ask me the time like clockwork (insert pun-caused groan here). Now he could see for himself if the wait for Test Track really was 30 minutes as promised by The Sign (capital letters necessary). Thanks to the watch, his requests for the current time were reduced by 38 percent. But when he asked for the time, it was see if his Pirate watch was keeping accurate time. "Wait, mine says it's 23 and, maybe, like a half minutes after 3. How do I change it to make it 24?" If he ever becomes a spy, he'll be real good about synchronizing watches. (The watch, however, malfunctioned just a week after we returned, but since this is about the good stuff, a call to Disney merchandise revealed it would be happy to send a new one with faxing of the receipt, so yay Disney!)

Watched a young girl, about 6 or so, make a beeline for one of the princesses (Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, one of those, I really can't keep them straight) and wrap her arms around the woman's thigh. Of course she had bypassed a line of perhaps 20 other little girls, and attendants were making a move to peel her off the princess when another little girl, this one at the front of the line, glued herself to the woman's other leg. Before order was restored a few minutes later, it was a free-for-all with little girls attaching themselves to any bit of exposed princess. Priceless.


AND NOW FOR SOMETHING UNEXPECTED. After reading the responses to the trip report, particularly to one passage I knew would rankle, I have had second thoughts. And third, and fourth. By the fifth thought, my mind was changed. People in scooters, I apologize. There are ailments and maladies that are sure to go undetected by the masses, particularly those masses whose ankles have just been scraped by a scooter. To judge why people are in those scooters is very unDisney and unjustified. But the fifth and deciding thought was personal (the straw that persuaded the camel's back to give in and quit being insensitive). My neighbor, who suffers from MS, is leaving for Disneyland next week with her husband and two boys. She is 41 and looks incredibly fit, yet I have been trying to persuade her to rent a scooter because she can't be on her legs 10 hours a day. She can't handle standing 40 minutes in line. She can't keep up with a 7 and 9 year old who have never been to Disneyland. I've told her how Disney wants to make sure everyone has a great time, even if they may have bad hearts or bad circulation or bad legs. She has resisted all of my suggestions because of what people would think of her. People like me.

I am humbled.
 
:sad: That was just beautiful . . .

And a class act for being able to change your mind and admit it. :thumbsup2 Great trip report. :cheer2:
 
I second the sentiment that you are a class act for being able to change your mind/see a new point of view and publicly admit it. The trip report had me laughing.
Please tell your friend that whenever I see "apparently healthy and fit" individuals in wheelchairs, ECVs, etc then I assume it is something like MS, recent organ transplant, some bizarre chemo I haven't even heard of and it makes me *happy* to see them out and about enjoying something with their family.

(OK I will admit that I was tempted to write out ECVs since you commented on abstaining from acronyms but I realized that I don't even know what it stands for .... electric chair vehicle? energetic & cheerful voltuser? extra chipper volkswagon????)
 
toothboy2k1 said:
IAND NOW FOR SOMETHING UNEXPECTED. After reading the responses to the trip report, particularly to one passage I knew would rankle, I have had second thoughts. And third, and fourth. By the fifth thought, my mind was changed. People in scooters, I apologize. There are ailments and maladies that are sure to go undetected by the masses, particularly those masses whose ankles have just been scraped by a scooter. To judge why people are in those scooters is very unDisney and unjustified. But the fifth and deciding thought was personal (the straw that persuaded the camel's back to give in and quit being insensitive). My neighbor, who suffers from MS, is leaving for Disneyland next week with her husband and two boys. She is 41 and looks incredibly fit, yet I have been trying to persuade her to rent a scooter because she can't be on her legs 10 hours a day. She can't handle standing 40 minutes in line. She can't keep up with a 7 and 9 year old who have never been to Disneyland. I've told her how Disney wants to make sure everyone has a great time, even if they may have bad hearts or bad circulation or bad legs. She has resisted all of my suggestions because of what people would think of her. People like me.

I am humbled.

I was one who felt you needed to rethink. Which you have, which is good.

She has resisted all of my suggestions because of what people would think of her, People like me

Thank you for this :banana: :banana: You have no idea what effect this one sentence has.
 
I enjoyed your trip report! I'm glad I waited until the end as my one major problem was with your assumption with people on scooters. I lost my Dad to MS last year and for many years leading up to the end, his only mode of transportation was a wheel chair or scooter. When I see these people in the parks it reminds me just how lucky I am (I'm one of those glass is half full people - and yes it tends to annoy my family!).

One point I totally agree on is that people tend to go, go, go and some of the best times we've found at WDW, DL and other places is the wonder of sitting on a bench and soaking up the atmosphere. It can be priceless!
 
One more comment on the scooters....My mom (who has struggled with her weight all her life) used to share your opinion too. That is, until her hip and knee started giving her troubles. We had a trip already planned and paid for when her hip deteriorated to the point where she couldn't walk more than 50 yards or so without extreme pain. She was too nervous about running someone (probably me or my dad) over in a scooter, so we ended up getting a wheelchair for her. To look at her, it may have been easy to judge her and assume that it was her weight that resulted in the wheelchair....too bad we didn't have the x-rays showing she had absolutely no cartilidge(?) left in her hip - meaning it was very painful bone on bone every step she took. (She had hip replacement in 2003 and knee replacement - also bone on bone - in 2004 and happily had no problems walking on our Feb 2006 trip),
 












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