not a fan of fast pass plus

[anna08]

Any updates on how things are going today?

 

[snoopy352]

People have been posting that the FP+ times are kept far away from your listed ADR's. I suppose that that will help.

Not in my opinion. We were going to enjoy a nice vaca with the DxDP but not now. Why should I have an ADR at Garden Grill for 5:00 and not be allowed to schedule a Soarin' FP+ until 7:00? My family and i will be done with dinner at 6:15 and we will want to get our DD to bed at an early hour, so now we have to loiter for 45 minutes waiting to use our FP ticket b/c the DIS system tells me that I can't make it 100 yards to my FP+ attraction in 45 minutes' time.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Not in my opinion. We were going to enjoy a nice vaca with the DxDP but not now. Why should I have an ADR at Garden Grill for 5:00 and not be allowed to schedule a Soarin' FP+ until 7:00? My family and i will be done with dinner at 6:15 and we will want to get our DD to bed at an early hour, so now we have to loiter for 45 minutes waiting to use our FP ticket b/c the DIS system tells me that I can't make it 100 yards to my FP+ attraction in 45 minutes' time.

I have several FP+ times that are either right up against or even partially overlapping my ADRs for a trip next month. I was alerted when making the FP+ selection that it overlapped, but was not precluded from reserving it. Is there any official word that this is changing?

 

[snoopy352]

I have several FP+ times that are either right up against or even partially overlapping my ADRs for a trip next month. I was alerted when making the FP+ selection that it overlapped, but was not precluded from reserving it. Is there any official word that this is changing?

It has already happened to many FP+ users who have reported it in other threads. We can only hope this is not a permanent thing or the DDP and DXDP will see major declines. You'd think Disney would not want that.

 

[dayvewc]

I've been booking my FP+ and have gotten notices and alerts that they overlap with some of my ADR's. I don't think that is a hard rule if it exists. You should be able to schedule when you want. Although, now I'm curious, would it let me schedule both at the same time?

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

It has already happened to many FP+ users who have reported it in other threads. We can only hope this is not a permanent thing or the DDP and DXDP will see major declines. You'd think Disney would not want that.

I've been booking my FP+ and have gotten notices and alerts that they overlap with some of my ADR's. I don't think that is a hard rule if it exists. You should be able to schedule when you want. Although, now I'm curious, would it let me schedule both at the same time?

My biggest overlap was as follows (we've changed the ADR not to cut so close):

Via Napoli 6:20
Test Track 6:00-7:00

The ADR was in place before I made the FP+ reservation a few weeks back.

Had figured at first we'd try being at TT right at 6pm, then make a beeline to the ADR. Use some of that Princess Half training to get there fast!

I actually would have understood if they hadn't allowed this FP+ -- cutting it pretty close. Will be interesting to see what they do over time...

Again, what I like about the system is its flexibility -- they can adjust this stuff at any time based on feedback, etc.

 

[magicbob]

Can I make a suggestion that has helped me over the last day or two? After having spent many hours at concierge and many many more in my room trying and trying to sort things out I finally just put the phone down and stopped.

I gave up. Plain and simple just left the website, logged out of the app and I haven't looked back.

Newest contender for WDW marketing campaign:

Just give up!

I like that one even more than "Get over it!"

It's certainly better than "let's lock that in."

 

[Love Tink]

I actually would have understood if they hadn't allowed this FP+ -- cutting it pretty close.

It is significantly more than "cutting it close." Certainly you are aware that you won't be able to make your ADR anywhere near on time (throwing off the schedule for the restaurant)?

Test Track, even with a FP, will take at least 30 minutes to complete (initial FP line, design room, line before loading area, ride itself, lengthy walk out through post-ride rooms) - and that's if there hasn't been a delay that backs up the FP line (which there usually is). Then you would face a half-mile walk through crowds to Italy. You'll probably be 15-30 minutes late for your reservation.

So if what you love about this system so much is its flexibility, why haven't you just changed your FP time?

 

[morethananyonex]

It is significantly more than "cutting it close." Certainly you are aware that you won't be able to make your ADR anywhere near on time (throwing off the schedule for the restaurant)?

Test Track, even with a FP, will take at least 30 minutes to complete (initial FP line, design room, line before loading area, ride itself, lengthy walk out through post-ride rooms) - and that's if there hasn't been a delay that backs up the FP line (which there usually is). Then you would face a half-mile walk through crowds to Italy. You'll probably be 15-30 minutes late for your reservation.

So if what you love about this system so much is its flexibility, why haven't you just changed your FP time?

That's what I was thinking too.

With a 6:00 PM FP+ time you'd be lucky if you made it out before your ADR time, nevermind made it to the restaurant. Why not just change the FP time to 5 instead? I mean, a huge perk of FP+ is that you shouldn't have conflicts like that, isn't it?

Newest contender for WDW marketing campaign:

Just give up!

I like that one even more than "Get over it!"

It's certainly better than "let's lock that in."

Or the ever popular..

Walt Disney World: Hey, it's better than a day at work

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

It is significantly more than "cutting it close." Certainly you are aware that you won't be able to make your ADR anywhere near on time (throwing off the schedule for the restaurant)?

Test Track, even with a FP, will take at least 30 minutes to complete (initial FP line, design room, line before loading area, ride itself, lengthy walk out through post-ride rooms) - and that's if there hasn't been a delay that backs up the FP line (which there usually is). Then you would face a half-mile walk through crowds to Italy. You'll probably be 15-30 minutes late for your reservation.

So if what you love about this system so much is its flexibility, why haven't you just changed your FP time?

That's what I was thinking too.

With a 6:00 PM FP+ time you'd be lucky if you made it out before your ADR time, nevermind made it to the restaurant. Why not just change the FP time to 5 instead? I mean, a huge perk of FP+ is that you shouldn't have conflicts like that, isn't it?

Wow. Had no idea some were so concerned about Disney allowing a conflict that may make someone late for an ADR...

I should have said my biggest overlap -- that Disney's system allowed -- was the one I cited above. We actually elected to move the ADR the other day and have already done so. Everyone ok with that? (I edited the old post to clarify)

Also - I said that I love that Disney has built a system that THEY CAN ADJUST as they get feedback -- THAT flexibility. Not that it is so super-awesome-flexible for users -- I don't think that, actually.

And incidentally, there's no way it has EVER taken us 30min to get through TT. Neither with FP over the last 10 trips, nor with FP+ on our last trip. I walk half a mile every day to pick up my kids and it takes me about 6 minutes. I figured we would be a few minutes late and I never purposely set things up that way -- thus the ADR change.

 

[morethananyonex]

Wow. Had no idea some were so concerned about Disney allowing a conflict that may make someone late for an ADR...

I should have said my biggest overlap -- that Disney's system allowed -- was the one I cited above. We actually elected to move the ADR and have already done so. Everyone ok with that?

Also - I said that I love that Disney has built a system that THEY CAN ADJUST as they get feedback -- THAT flexibility. Not that it is so super-awesome-flexible for users -- I don't think that, actually.

And incidentally, there's no way it has EVER taken us 30min to get through TT. Neither with FP over the last 10 trips, nor with FP+ on our last trip. I walk half a mile every day to pick up my kids and it takes me about 6 minutes. I figured we would be a few minutes late and I never purposely set things up that way.

I don't care that the system lets you do it, but you should care. You have the potential to be as late as 30 minutes late like PP said. If you wanted to risk losing your ADR or waiting a long time at the restaurant that's your choice, just warning you that it would be more than cutting it tight. I also don't see what the point is of cutting it that close when the system lets you change your times to whenever you want. Again, your problem, not mine.

We can only go by what you said, not what you actually did. If you moved the ADR, I'm not sure why you would state what your plan is for TT at 6 p.m., after all it would be irrelevant, no?

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I don't care that the system lets you do it, but you should care. You have the potential to be as late as 30 minutes late like PP said. If you wanted to risk losing your ADR or waiting a long time at the restaurant that's your choice, just warning you that it would be more than cutting it tight. I also don't see what the point is of cutting it that close when the system lets you change your times to whenever you want. Again, your problem, not mine.

We can only go by what you said, not what you actually did. If you moved the ADR, I'm not sure why you would state what your plan is for TT at 6 p.m., after all it would be irrelevant, no?

My goodness. High level of heat for something you don't care about. I said the original post wasn't clear, and went back and clarified. Mea culpa!

 

[morethananyonex]

My goodness. High level of heat for something you don't care about. I said the original post wasn't clear, and went back and clarified. Mea culpa!

You got snarky because myself and another poster responded based on what you said, not on what you meant to say. The way you worded it was odd considering it was not what you were doing anymore, but whatever.

I am not heated at all, just responding to your "Wow, I had no idea some were so concerned" comment. I would hope that someone who posts something similar to you would get the same response every time, some people have no idea that getting on a ride 20 minutes before an ADR across the park is a bad idea.

All I said initially was why not change the FP+ time? Don't know why you responded the way you did.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I would hope that someone who posts something similar to you would get the same response every time, some people have no idea that getting on a ride 20 minutes before an ADR across the park is a bad idea.

Agreed. Some people don't know that and kindly offering the info would be helpful. I took "Certainly you are aware..." and "So if what you love about this system so much is its flexibility..." (which I never said) as not just an attempt to be helpful. That was the other poster, though -- I shouldn't have grouped your post with theirs in my response - apologies!

We've never been the types to double book ADRs back when you could, or book ADRs that we knew we'd be late for. Feels wrong, even if Disney technically allows it. I even cancelled a couple of FP+ reservations that I didn't think we'd be able to make, even though the system forces 3 picks!

I can see some people saying "who cares if I'm late for the ADR when Disney allowed me to book this way". If a lot of that happens they'll certainly be strict about windows as some are reporting. I wonder where they'll land on this one... how much of a cushion is necessary... 30min... 60min... will be interesting to see.

 

[threewilmingtonwalls]

I'm 16 pages in, and getting very nervous about my family's upcoming "last minute" trip. (Funny - when I think "last minute" travel for anywhere else I'm thinking in the next week. For WDW anything less than six months seem last minute.

I would normally read the entire thread and/or continue to search before asking a question, so please forgive me if this has been asked and answered. Does the MDE App force you to select all of your FP+ choices at the same time, or am I doing it wrong? I'm trying to reserve my ride times, but I would like to be able to maybe book one headliner and leave two spots open, or book two and leave one depending on the day and the park. The system is forcing me to have all three spots booked, and if I don't choose a ride, it chooses one for me. I know I can just change (or try to change) the selection on the day, but by forcing me to have a placeholder FP+ reservation, isn't the system blocking availability for others who might actually want to ride whatever I have booked at that time?

 

[ArwenMarie]

I'm 16 pages in, and getting very nervous about my family's upcoming "last minute" trip. (Funny - when I think "last minute" travel for anywhere else I'm thinking in the next week. For WDW anything less than six months seem last minute.

I would normally read the entire thread and/or continue to search before asking a question, so please forgive me if this has been asked and answered. Does the MDE App force you to select all of your FP+ choices at the same time, or am I doing it wrong? I'm trying to reserve my ride times, but I would like to be able to maybe book one headliner and leave two spots open, or book two and leave one depending on the day and the park. The system is forcing me to have all three spots booked, and if I don't choose a ride, it chooses one for me. I know I can just change (or try to change) the selection on the day, but by forcing me to have a placeholder FP+ reservation, isn't the system blocking availability for others who might actually want to ride whatever I have booked at that time?

Yep, it makes you book all three spots.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I'm 16 pages in, and getting very nervous about my family's upcoming "last minute" trip. (Funny - when I think "last minute" travel for anywhere else I'm thinking in the next week. For WDW anything less than six months seem last minute.

I would normally read the entire thread and/or continue to search before asking a question, so please forgive me if this has been asked and answered. Does the MDE App force you to select all of your FP+ choices at the same time, or am I doing it wrong? I'm trying to reserve my ride times, but I would like to be able to maybe book one headliner and leave two spots open, or book two and leave one depending on the day and the park. The system is forcing me to have all three spots booked, and if I don't choose a ride, it chooses one for me. I know I can just change (or try to change) the selection on the day, but by forcing me to have a placeholder FP+ reservation, isn't the system blocking availability for others who might actually want to ride whatever I have booked at that time?

I found it odd that they forced booking 3 per day -- I hope they change that. On one day we're park hopping and just won't be able to use 3. I went in later and just cancelled the one we didn't think we'd use.

 

[threewilmingtonwalls]

Yep, it makes you book all three spots.

Well, at least I know I'm not doing it wrong. That's ridiculous.

Thanks for the quick reply!

 

[threewilmingtonwalls]

I found it odd that they forced booking 3 per day -- I hope they change that. On one day we're park hopping and just won't be able to use 3. I went in later and just cancelled the one we didn't think we'd use.

How did you cancel just one? I tried that as well, but I stopped when it looked like the system was going to cancel them all. The only options I am seeing are change the time or change the "experience." (I'd like to change my experience to one that does not include planning every minute detail. Next they'll be forcing us to pre-book our bathroom breaks...)

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

How did you cancel just one? I tried that as well, but I stopped when it looked like the system was going to cancel them all. The only options I am seeing are change the time or change the "experience." (I'd like to change my experience to one that does not include planning every minute detail. Next they'll be forcing us to pre-book our bathroom breaks...)

Let's see... I hope this is right...

1) From the My Disney Experience pull-down menu I selected FastPass+
2) Chose the appropriate day with the FP+ I wanted to cancel
3) Selected "Cancel", 4th on the list with the description "Cancel existing FastPass+ selections."
4) Selected the FP+ reservation I wanted to cancel (both for my sister and I) and clicked NEXT
5) Got a message that says "This FastPass+ selection will be canceled." and clicked DONE.

That took care of it!

They really need to change this. I wonder how many bookings out there right now aren't "real", just because the system forces three...