NOOO!!! the rumours are true about indy :(

[aprincessatlast]

I still am not sure I get what you are saying. One you seem to be disappointed that Indy will be down. I get that. It is offseason and that is what happens in offseason. But it still can be disappointing.

But you also seem to be bothered by Disney not announcing it far enough in advance. So if they announced it two months ago would you be less disappointed?

Not the OP but yes I would have certainly loved to have known months ago. More like 3 months but it would have had a factor on when I would visit. Sorry but saying it is offseason is a lame excuse. Disney World has off season too and they give out rehab closures notices months in advance. There is no logical reason Disneyland could not do the same.

Yes we know that Disney World is not Disneyland but they are both Disney! I expect the same level of service and quality with DCL because they are Disney and I get it! I do not think that is too much to ask of Disneyland.

I do always appreciate and value your helpful posts Hydroguy but on this one I will have to disagree.

 

[Jkpark]

DD6 will be disappointed as she is FINALLY tall enough to ride this and we will be there the first weekend in December. Oh well - time to plan a trip for 2013. I am hoping this means BTMRR is not down until 2013...

 

[scrapshappen]

While I am disappointed, it seems like every time we go, one ride or another is down for major referb. Last year it was Pirates. This time it will Indy. Who knows what it will be next time. I think you can pretty much plan that one ride will always be down unless you go at the most crowded times. (And sometimes even then).

In some ways it is a relief. It is the ride that my older DS and I do together as DH doesn't like it and younger DS has always been too short. Younger DS is like 45.5 inches tall right now and I was worried it might cause him angst if he missed it again this year because he was too small. Now it won't even be an issue because it will be closed.

I do hope the rumor holds true that BTMRR will wait until January for it's referb. One of our favorites down at a time is expected, two would be a lot harder to swallow.

 

[marcemc]

You guys think you are upset? Wait until I tell my 6 yo about it

 

[ZanderMan]

I know this sounds crazy but we cancelled our trip this year due to this rumor. I've had to many visits with major rides that I like that are closed for refurbishment in the past. We did reschedule for next Febuaray though.

 

[HydroGuy]

Sure. And to go one step further, if we had showed up next month expecting Indy to be open and finding it's not because it's not on the refurb calendar, I'd be really ticked.

You do seem to be missing my point, which is, Disney refers us to their official website calendar for everything - park hours, entertainment, refurbs, etc. and the best they can do for us is give us 6 weeks notice. So for those of us that aren't fortunate to plan our trip during peak season, we choose a set of dates, and hope they're good ones. And then six weeks out, we start checking the website calendar to see what will be open and what will be closed. Come to find out, they reserve the right to not list rides they're going to have closed on the refurb calendar, but instead, someplace most people wouldn't even think to look.

If you read the fine print on Disney websites, it will say "everything is subject to change". In the summer of 2010 - when refurbs almost never happen - they closed Alice in Wonderland for like a month out of the blue with no advance notice. Totally unexpected. I happen to love that ride. Why did they close it? Because someone thought there was a safety issue.

In the summer of 2011 they decided in June to close the Matterhorn for 6 months as part of its refurb process. There was only a few days notice.

Before the Internet the way you found out what was closed at DL was to show up that day and look at the sign next to the turnstiles as you entered. The Internet has made information more accessible. But IMO it does not mean Disney is obligated to share refurb information before they are ready to do so. Again, they don't sit in their offices withholding that information just to frustrate guests. If they have not published it is because some part of their plan is not finalized.

And I guess I am different from you. If I found out two weeks or two months or six months before my trip that Indy would be down, I would be equally bummed. But if I chose to go to DLR during an offseason month I would be philosophical about it - that is when refurbs happen. September and January are the two worst months for refurbs. And October-November and February-March are close behind. Anyone who plans trips during those times should be prepared for at least one if not several major rides being under refurb during their trip. And these are typically announced the day before up to maybe a couple months before. Usually you get a couple weeks notice.

Look back to past August and September threads on this forum. Every year the refurbs start being announced for September and every year people start freaking out. Sort of like people going to DLR in the summer complaining about the heat or in the winter complaining about the cold.

I get it that people are disappointed. I get it that people want all information perfectly correct, unchanging and far in advance. My understanding of Disney is that they would rather get information out which is correct and later rather than incorrect and earlier. So they are very careful to make sure they have all their ducks lined up before they announce something. Apparently that bothers you. I do not know what to suggest except maybe to call them and tell them you don't like it.

 

[interstate70s]

In my experience Disney 's website has been especially clunky and often has weird quirks and errors.

As for Refurbs there is always something being worked on, I'm from out of state and it doesn't 't really bother me. I explained to the kids this way. You won 't have Indy this trip but there will be an entire new land to check out!

 

[Malcon10t]

Sure. And to go one step further, if we had showed up next month expecting Indy to be open and finding it's not because it's not on the refurb calendar, I'd be really ticked.

Welcome to the world that was ours 15-20 years ago. You went, and you looked at the sign that would tell you what was down. They could not tell you even on the phone what would be down if you were trying to plan a trip, and this "internet thing" was pretty much non-existant. Now, people get upset if they know ahead of time because "Disney is ruining our trip"...

 

[Malcon10t]

Please go back and reread what I have posted. I understand that Indy needs a refurb, and I am not griping about when they've decided to do it. What I AM griping about is their mishandling of information.

Do you remember when Space Mountain went down a few years ago? People were upset it was going to be down for a year. People planned trips to ride the last day. Then suddenly, a couple months before the planned outage, it went 101 one day, and it didn't come back up. Perhaps Disney learned from THAT incident that giving out too much information too far in advance has even MORE of a backlash? Or perhaps this was something that was planned for perhaps the spring, that recent events made them step up the plans?

 

[Crazy4Disney06]

just read it on mousechat and then looked myself. Disney has that it will be down sept 4-december 7.

I hate that it's down while others will be there, however we arrive December 16th and my ds10 is so looking forward to riding it, I'm happy to know he will finally get his chance, as it's always been down while he was there.

 

[FlameGirl]

Do you remember when Space Mountain went down a few years ago? People were upset it was going to be down for a year. People planned trips to ride the last day. Then suddenly, a couple months before the planned outage, it went 101 one day, and it didn't come back up. Perhaps Disney learned from THAT incident that giving out too much information too far in advance has even MORE of a backlash? Or perhaps this was something that was planned for perhaps the spring, that recent events made them step up the plans?

Perhaps. Who knows. All I'm saying is its stupid to post it where they have posted it and not on the refurb schedule. If they don't want to provide that information then they don't have to, but as it stands, the refurb schedule is a resource they offer and refer guests to. Why bother if it's not inclusive and up to date?

I really don't have any additional commentary, other than that point.

 

[sweethannah]

I have to say I'm a little disappointed that 6 weeks out from my trip they've announced the closure. We don't go every year, this will probably be our last visit for quite a while and we got to ride it last May my DD was not ready to ride it more than once... she has been talking for the last few weeks about getting the chance to re-try it. It was definitely a ride that my husband and myself really enjoyed.

Kinda bummed - wished they'd give more notice. Wouldn't change much but would keep us from getting too excited about that ride

 

[DLRfan31]

"It" doesn't, as in Disney has not said this. It is a rumor from credible sources but it is just a rumor at this point. Some people are taking the rumor as if it is a done deal. Others will just wait to see how things play out.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that BTMRR won't go down for fixin' until after the holiday season, especially now that they've announced the Indy refurb. I'm telling myself they won't have two biggies down at the same time, especially during Halloween and Christmas seasons.

I'm not a huge Indy fan, but sure do love thunder mountain.

So...I'm waiting to see how it plays out.

 

[CourtFool]

Again, they don't sit in their offices withholding that information just to frustrate guests.

You know this for a fact? Are you privy to their super secret meetings where they plot against individuals hundreds of miles away and years in advance? You sound like you are one of them.

Oh and

 

[DLRfan31]

Indy needs something. Honestly, it's been closed by plan a few days here and there over the past few years, but it hasn't had a nice long closure that I recall in the last several years. It sounds like some of what it's being closed for is more safety stuff. I'm hoping that there are some real show improvements and ride improvements that get done too.

The same MousePlanet David Koenig article that talks about the closure also says that Big Thunder isn't slated for it's rehab until January. Al Lutz implied early fall, possibly September in his most recent post on the topic. Since the Indy refurb seems to be happening this fall, January makes more sense for Big Thunder, and I'm hoping that's true.

Yes!!! I would think that if its going down for a year starting next month, they would have announced it already.
I keep thinking positive : ) : )

BUT if its down its down and I will still have a wonderful magical time. I can't wait to see BVS and CL!!

 

[Malcon10t]

"It" doesn't, as in Disney has not said this. It is a rumor from credible sources but it is just a rumor at this point. Some people are taking the rumor as if it is a done deal. Others will just wait to see how things play out.

And it MIGHT be a confusion, as the Big Thunder Ranch PETTING area is going down for clean up. It will be down the 10th thru about the 14th.

 

[CrazyDuck]

If you travel the "off season" like myself you really cant get bent over one of two of your favorite attractions being closed. In fact you should expect it. They HAVE to close the rides to do maintenance so that they can be open when the massive Holiday/Summer crowds are there. We do an annual trip to the land and with DVC we almost have to make our reservations 11 months out, and changing plans are difficult at best... So we book knowing that we may not get to experience every ride, and that's ok.... something to look forward to the following year!

 

[ValpoCory]

My family is going in January, so count me amongst the lucky who are not negatively impacted by this refurb. We can't say the same about BTMRR, though. If I had to choose, I'd choose Indy to be closed. There is just not the emotional attachment with Indy as their is with the Wildest Ride in the Wilderness.

 

[Lizzim]

I must be missing something but for someone who plans a trip a year out, what is the difference if Disney announces this 3 weeks or 6 months in advance? For most folks the only complaint I can understand is if a refurb is announced far in enough in advance that they have time to reschedule if they want or choose a different dagte in the first place. But for a trip planned a year in advance that is not an option.

As someone who is making their very first trip to Disneyland in 6 weeks time(travelling from the UK) and who booked 7 months in advance to get DVC accommodation....it would be nice if they could give out slightly more advanced information.....and not just for rehabs....park hours would be useful too....!

 

[Xenorye]

My family is going in January, so count me amongst the lucky who are not negatively impacted by this refurb. We can't say the same about BTMRR, though. If I had to choose, I'd choose Indy to be closed. There is just not the emotional attachment with Indy as their is with the Wildest Ride in the Wilderness.

Opposite. Going April 2013, and while I love BTMRR, I love Indy more, and my wife is a huge Indy fan (it will be her first visit). Very happy to hear Indy will be up and running (assuming no hiccups). Only very slightly bummed about BTMRR, but last time I went to DL (2004), Space was down, and was my childhood favorite. It's now been about 13 years since I've been on it!