No fox5 or my9 on cablevision!!!

[TwinsinCA]

We have Dish and we're supposed to lose Fox on November 1 if they don't come to an agreement. We've already been without FX and Fox Sports since October 1.

Dish has a lot of these disputes. I wonder if Direct TV does too?

We've had DirecTV for 13 years and have never had issues with a major network getting dropped because they couldn't come to an agreement.

 

[bicker]

That's not saying much: They haven't been required to carry local channels until relatively recently.

 

[TwinsinCA]

That's not saying much: They haven't been required to carry local channels until relatively recently.

Compared to cable? Sure. But not compared to Dish, which was my point.

 

[bicker]

Yes, very true: Dish is to DirecTV as Cablevision is to FiOS. Dish and Cablevision are the cost-conscious service providers, while DirecTV and FiOS are in the end going to be the high-end premium services.

 

[bicker]

If you were thinking that you'd just watch your favorite Fox shows on Hulu until Cablevision and News Corp worked out their differences, then think again. Not only can you not watch Fox on Cablevision's cable service at the moment, but if you get your internet from said company, you can't watch Fox content on Hulu either. This isn't too terribly surprising considering the networks see Hulu as a supplemental service to their traditional avenues, but that doesn't make cord cutters who don't even subscribe to cable feel any better.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/16/news-corp-removes-hulu-from-cablevision-escalating-carriage-dis/

 

[Planogirl]

Yes, very true: Dish is to DirecTV as Cablevision is to FiOS. Dish and Cablevision are the cost-conscious service providers, while DirecTV and FiOS are in the end going to be the high-end premium services.

You always say that but when we priced Dish and Direct TV, Dish was only slightly less. They both have satellite dishes and the same channels pretty much. I don't get the difference.

 

[bicker]

People's experiences vary - heck, what people consider as "slightly" will vary. Dish is less expensive, but more importantly (and what I said was that) they are a more cost-conscious operation. They play hard-ball with content providers more than DirecTV. They maintain a lower overall cost profile. When push comes to shove, they provide the budget service while DirecTV generally provides the premium service.

 

[tvguy]

Actually... OP doesn't live in Clinton - OP lives in Clifton. Serves me right for trusting my aged vision at 05:43 AM!!!

Okay, here's the correct link for Clifton:

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id=a362560a7d6bb8

Only 12 miles from the transmitter. That is a MUCH better situation for the OP (than Clinton, NJ). Rabbit ears will do fine.

Note that it isn't just about the distance, though. Going back to the Clinton, NJ situation, if you click on the row for Fox5 or My9, you'll see how Clinton is adversely impacted (its in the blue) because it is in a valley. Reception is blocked by the hills to the east.

We ran free Antenna seminars last week for the public. Lady asked why her neighbors on either side of her could get good reception with rabbit ears and she couldn't.
The consultant we hired asked her if her house was stucco. Yes it was. Were her neighbors houses stucco too? No, they were wood. According to him the wire mess used in stucco is enough to block digital signals.
Interesting.

 

[Planogirl]

People's experiences vary - heck, what people consider as "slightly" will vary. Dish is less expensive, but more importantly (and what I said was that) they are a more cost-conscious operation. They play hard-ball with content providers more than DirecTV. They maintain a lower overall cost profile. When push comes to shove, they provide the budget service while DirecTV generally provides the premium service.

If this keeps up I might consider switching to Direct TV. What do you get for their premium service? I've heard that Direct TV offers more sports packages but I haven't heard of anything else.

It might be nice to have a company that doesn't seem to argue with networks as much.

 

[kaytieeldr]

DirecTV owns NFL Sunday Ticket (I think that's the channel) and exclusively airs the current/final season of Friday Night Lights, now that its network cancelled it. Those are just off the top of my head. I see their ads all the time, but despite bicker's great, earlier information about OMERT, with both cable and antenna options in this complex I'm too complacent to try anything else

 

[starwood]

We had directv before switching back to cable. Everytime it rained we lost the signal. I bought an antenna 2 weeks ago in anticipation of this happening. At least I can watch channel 5 but I can't record or pause it with the dvr. So no one had better interrupt me when I'm watching.

 

[RayaniFoxmur]

That's changed: Verizon has essentially made a right turn with their policies regarding FiOS. The best indicator of this is that they've ceased expansion of the service footprint: Essentially, if your county doesn't have FiOS now, then you can assume you "never" will. ("Never" meaning "at least until the next technology change".)

This kills me too. We're not allowed to have a dish at our apartment, and Brighthouse is the only Cable provider available to us. We were looking forward to FiOS because of the technology being so much better (IE - 4 shows recording at once and being able to record shows in one room and watch in another) and I hate that we will likely never get FiOS. Neither Verizon nor AT&T reach here, and it's not like we live in a rural area.

 

[mickilee]

ouch!
"Fox has said it is not allowing customers of Cablevision's Internet access service to connect to Fox Web sites or to Fox content on Hulu.com," echoed Public Knowledge. "It's bad enough that millions of consumers in New York and Philadelphia are being deprived of programming distributed by cable. Blocking Web sites, however, is totally out of bounds in a dispute like this."

to read the whole article.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/458509-Fox_Still_Off_D_C_Still_Fired_Up.php

 

[Debbie Jean]

We had directv before switching back to cable. Everytime it rained we lost the signal. I bought an antenna 2 weeks ago in anticipation of this happening. At least I can watch channel 5 but I can't record or pause it with the dvr. So no one had better interrupt me when I'm watching.

I have Directtv and am also in northern NJ... had problems with weather and reception so they sent someone out to move the dish... interesting that he told me that the dish had been poorly installed and this was not an uncommon problem... when you get "free" installation they farm it out to less experienced technicians .. I have a service contract for about $4 a month so his visit was covered...

Since he repositioned and reinstalled the dish, I have had not problems with reception no matter how bad the weather has been

I switched from cablevision probably 10 years ago because every single month my bill would go up with no change in programing I'm really glad I did with all the problems they have had with channel disputes in this area

At the time I selected Directtv over Dish because it carried NESN and I would be able to follow the Red Sox and my beloved Rem Dog

 

[mickilee]

We had directv before switching back to cable. Everytime it rained we lost the signal. I bought an antenna 2 weeks ago in anticipation of this happening. At least I can watch channel 5 but I can't record or pause it with the dvr. So no one had better interrupt me when I'm watching.

spraying rainx on your dish, couple times a year. Will eliminate some of this problem. Also reduces snow build up.

 

[starwood]

spraying rainx on your dish, couple times a year. Will eliminate some of this problem. Also reduces snow build up.

The dish is up at the very top peak of the house. There is no way we are going up there.

 

[bicker]

We're not allowed to have a dish at our apartment,

Unless you live in a building that is on the National Register of Historic Places, it is a violation of federal law ("OTARD") for your landlord to ban satellite dishes. Please contact me via PM if you need assistance communicating this fact to your landlord.

Assuming you actually want satellite service.

 

[bicker]

"Fox has said it is not allowing customers of Cablevision's Internet access service to connect to Fox Web sites or to Fox content on Hulu.com," echoed Public Knowledge. "It's bad enough that millions of consumers in New York and Philadelphia are being deprived of programming distributed by cable. Blocking Web sites, however, is totally out of bounds in a dispute like this."

Public "Knowledge" is apparently a misnomer: They clearly don't know what they're talking about. They have a patently-, and apparently blindly-consumerist agenda, and choose to ignore precedent and what is reasonable and customary in the consumer marketplace, to try to prosecute their biased advocacy.

 

[DisneyMomx7]

This is killing us! DS and DH are HUGE Phillies fans.

We just switched from FIOS to Cablevision last week because we found out we would be saving $100 a month. If I had known this I would have waited until November

DH found a website where you pay $10 and you can get the game on your computer. It worked last night - hopefully it will work for the rest of the playoffs or he'll have to take ds to a bar! ( Just kidding).

 

[sms]

I have Time Warner digital cable in my livingroom. Just regular cable in the other rooms. They are cutting out channels that are not on digital. They cut out about 4 channels including, Oxygen and Soap Opera Network! Now they want me to get the digital box in the other rooms to be able to get these channels!