No Bashing/Bashing threads

[eliza61]

I am very upset with the tenor of some posts and want to suggest what has to be done in Soap Opera forums. If people must bash Disney warn those of us who do not want to hear it by their having to state it is a bashing thread. Then we can stay away form the vitriole and just read the helpful, enjoyable threads we have come to expect.

What do you consider Bashing? If some one ask an opinion about one of the resorts and the replier had issues, do you want them to lie?

Why can't the report the truth (as they see it)? Why are they not just as helpful? When I plan any vacation I want to know the good, the bad and the ugly. If the bus takes 2 hours to come, I'd rather you tell me the truth instead of painting a "sunshiney" view. at least I can make a decision on good advice.

 

[StreamMaster]

But that's your opinion. I believe people can take care of themselves and don't need someone to filter posts for them. This is a discussion board which means taking the good with the bad.

EXACTLY !!!!!!!

I don't understand what part of "Discussion" board people don't get.
If all you want to read is positive comments then I would suggest....

http://DisneyWorld.com

 

[dstevens]

And now she is being told it is a hell hole and is scared to death of spending hard earned money on this poor quality rundown resort that employs rude uncaring workers. Can you blame her?

I don't believe anybody told her or gave her the impression WDW is a hell hole. Her husband does not seem to really be interested in going anyway. In her posts she actually sounds very insecure. I deal with people like that all the time in retail. The thread you are talking about is not a "bashing" thread. It could be more accurately called a praise and/or bashing thread. Did you not read all the praise for WDW or the entire thread? So what if one person feels staying off site is better then on site. So what if 20 people say the food at ABC Commissary sucks. You do have free will to choose. These are Discussion Boards were EVERYTHING is discussed good or bad. Next you will want to censor every thread, oh that's what you are suggesting.

 

[5boyz]

What was the title of this horrible thread that turned someone off of going? What catagory is it under? thx

 

[kmk1180]

And if you DON'T feel the same way....why are you on the disboards?

I've always wondered that myself.
I mean if it's your first trip and you want to learn then discover
Dis isn't for you...ok but why stick around?
or if you just dislike dis, why be here at all?

 

[eliza61]

I've always wondered that myself.
I mean if it's your first trip and you want to learn then discover
Dis isn't for you...ok but why stick around?
or if you just dislike dis, why be here at all?

But what are you going to discover if all you see is "happy town" USA. for example, my first time here all I heard was how important "Rope drop" and "TGM" was, so I brought into it. My first trip ended up miserable because rope drop and TGM is not how my family likes to travel. Now when some one ask advice about those 2 subjects I always give the alternate view. Yes, it is possible to enjoy disney world without following a schedule and without doing rope drop.
That's not bashing or negative, thats another opinion that may be very valuable to a first timer.
If you suffer from mobility issues how are you going to know that BW has very long hallways and could be a problem.
If you don't like outside hallways, how are you going to know that the deluxe level are the only resorts that offer indoor hallways unless some one post this.

In order to "discover" how to make Disney world work for you, the first thing you need is "complete" information and that includes some not so flattering things about the world.

I agree with Steammaster, if you only want the "nothing bad ever happens" at disneyworld view, go to disneyworld.com

 

[Mouseaholic!!!]

I haven't read all the posts here.But I have to respectfully disagree. The purpose of the disboards is a discussion forum.This means lots of people,lots of different opinions.EVERYONE is entitled to offer their opinion.If one does not like what they are reading, then they need to shut the thread and move on. If 100% pixie dust,happiness, and all positive all the time is what one wants, then this is not the place for them.I have been on lots of boards FAR WORSE then here.I personally welcome the negative opinions.Not everything is perfect even Disney.

Don't you know....DIS boards are "All All the time".....at least for some.

There are others who try to tell the truth as they see it. As I have said here before....just because it's not YOUR opinion doesn't mean it's not the truth.

But alas....there are some who still happily wear those Pixie Glasses and refuse to see anything that is not absolutely perfect. It can be frustrating to read it for some....but the Picie People are allowed to express thier opinion as well.

What I find offensive here are those who disagree and therefore feel they are allowed to personally attack the poster.

The last time I checked, this was an open forum....which means open to all of all opinions.

 

[Pongo23]

I am a relatively new member to these boards, however, I was a member of another Disney board for the planning of my past trips. I joined this board because it is a larger board with more info. I will say that the overall tone of this board is a bit more negative than the other, but I also think it's more honest. The other board was all sunshine and roses all the time.

Here's where I have a problem. Just in the month that I've been on these boards, I can't believe how many times I've seen the following scenario: Someone posts a negative review about a restaurant, resort, etc. Great. Info noted and filed away in the back of my mind. I consider it very useful info. But then, that person has to make sure that they continue to re-tell their story EVERY TIME anyone else mentions that restaurant or resort. Even when it has nothing to do with the OP's question! I have seen people start a post looking for room recommendations at a resort, and someone will reply that they had a horrible experience at that resort and wouldn't stay there again. What good does that do the OP? They're already booked at their resort and excited about it. Or someone posts that they're excited they got a certain ADR, and someone will respond back that they had the worst meal of their lives there. Yes! We know! You've already posted that in 5 other places! It's almost as if some people are so bitter about their negative experience that they can't stand the thought of anyone else enjoying a similar experience.

I've been very lucky in all my past trips that I have never had a "negative" experience at Disney. Maybe because of this, I find it difficult to understand why some people work so hard to try to convince others that they, too, will have a negative experience somewhere.

OP, I understand where you're coming from, but like I've said I also appreciate the honest, negative reviews. I just can't stand the "bubble bursters" and the "you need to jump on my bandwagon" posters.

 

[WDWKOOK]

Sounds like there are other prevailing issues besides possible disappointment. *LandChildWorldAdult* wrote this yesterday:

"I'll just have to wait. Can't really afford it anyway, not the way DH does the math."

 

[robinb]

Honestly, I think that the idea of labeling threads "bashing" would really backfire and create more conflict instead of happiness and harmony the OP seems to crave. Posters on the DIS would not be able to resist jumping into a "bashing" thread and either bash along or proudly defend whatever was being bashed until it resulted into a full blown fight .

 

[webstah]

Personally, I feel it is more in the tone of what people write, and not the subject.
I can post that I had a bad experience at such and such a resort, and outline what i percieved as problems, without blasting the resort, and belittling people who choose to stay there.
If I don't care for the theming, I pioint that out, but only as my opinion. I never recommend anyone stay away from any resort or restaurant.
I believe it is bashing if you state that people should not stay at xyz because you don't like the way it looks, not Disney enough, over priced, too crowded, etc... with out any real issues other than the look and feel.
If you have a problem with a broken bed, broken fridge, point it out, but to say "I would never stay at a value or moderate because they don't have inside corridors and it isn't safe, the people are low rent, etc..." instead of "We prefer to have inside corridors" is just a way to make others seem inferior.

 

[WDWKOOK]

Sorry, it's just not practical to start labeling threads as 'bashing' or 'not bashing'.

I'd say that most threads about any given resort contain at least one negative comment. Is it right to label the entire thread as 'bashing', based on a few comments? Is there a certain percentage of negative posts that would qualify it as a bashing thread? Who makes that determination?

And how do you distinguish between legitimate complaints about a resort, and bashing? Or is any complaint considered bashing? Just the use of that term sort of implies that that complaint isn't valid.

The purpose of this forum is to provide a place to discuss Disney resorts, planning of resort stays, and experiences at resorts. The fact is, no resort (Disney or otherwise) is perfect. Problems do happen, guests do have real, legitimate reasons to complain from time to time, and I think most people want to hear the pros and the cons of each resort when deciding where to spend their hard-earned dollars.

I think most people are capable of synthesizing all the comments they read, good and bad, when choosing a resort. Each of us has a different level of tolerance for imperfection in a hotel; a situation that ruins one poster's vacation, another guest might not even notice.

My (rambling) point is, that all comments about a resort, good or bad, may be useful to someone. It's up to each reader here to decide how to use the information that's posted here.

Thank you for injecting some common sense.

Perhaps the OP could look at "bashers" as a personal challenge. She could convince all us "bashers" that we are misguided by presenting a compelling, opposing viewpoint.

 

[NMAmy]

If someone won't go to WDW because of what they read on a chat board, then they either really weren't planning to go, their circumstances changed and they couldn't go, or they can't think for themselves. I have been a member here for several years and have read plenty of bad about every resort, restaurant, theme park, and lots on bad CMs but I've still gone and so have the thousands of others who have been on the DIS. I have never seen 1 poster change their mind about a trip because they've read a negative review. I have seen people change their resort or 2nd guess an ADR but that's it. Have any of us changed our minds about taking a trip anywhere because of negative comments? If someone is that easily swayed by negative comments and they ever read tripadvisor, I promise they will never leave their house.

Amen to this entire post!

I love WDW. We go every year. But I don't think everything is coated with pixie dust 24/7 there. Sometimes people have issues with a resort, a restaurant, a CM. I like to hear both sides--great service and not so great service.

The only thing that truly irritates me is when someone posts about a legitimate problem and the Pixie Dust Posters jump all over them--always assuming that the poster somehow brought this on themselves and that Disney could never, ever, ever do anything wrong.

I'd say, if you want the "Everything is always wonderful at Disney" line, perhaps you should stick to the Disney website instead of getting a well rounded and often more accurate view of WDW on message boards.

 

[blissventure]

Amen to this entire post!

I love WDW. We go every year. But I don't think everything is coated with pixie dust 24/7 there. Sometimes people have issues with a resort, a restaurant, a CM. I like to hear both sides--great service and not so great service.

The only thing that truly irritates me is when someone posts about a legitimate problem and the Pixie Dust Posters jump all over them--always assuming that the poster somehow brought this on themselves and that Disney could never, ever, ever do anything wrong.

I'd say, if you want the "Everything is always wonderful at Disney" line, perhaps you should stick to the Disney website instead of getting a well rounded and often more accurate view of WDW on message boards.

There's a middle ground.
I find the over the ridiculously over the top Pixie Posters annoying.
Having said that, though, the posters who constantly basically cut and paste the exact same thing over and over...Caps anyone? DISNEY IS A RIP-OFF....and on...and on...every single post, same verse, just as the first.
Geeze louise...get over it. Why in the world do folks who basically hate everything to do with WDW Resorts spend hours on these boards?

The folks who post their actual experiences, minus the absurd hyperbole and drama are the ones I appreciate.

 

[crazyoldmaurice]

I propose we create a separate forum for discussions about labeling threads as BASHING, since this is the Resorts board.

 

[robinb]

I propose we create a separate forum for discussions about labeling threads as BASHING, since this is the Resorts board.

They tried that wayyyy before your time. It was called the Debate Board .

 

[Pats Dragon]

I guess I am the dratted basher-type on the other thread. If you notice I have been going to DW annually or more, since 1971 and have a trip planned. Many bashers wouldn't bash if they didn't love DW. It takes a lot to diminish the most magical place in the world. That other thread will be read by people who can maybe bring back the magic. Nothing is perfect. DW used to come close. There have always been rude guests/cm's, messes occasionally and it always was costly but you can no longer COUNT on a wonderful time. You used to be able to count on DW. You youngsters just don't know what it used to be. I haven't noticed a consistent debbie-downer, but rather some seasoned disaholics who want the downward spiral to stop. I, for one, have lots of positive posts as well.

 

[dreamsensei]

The moderator said it best : These boards are for DISCUSSION as well as worship. I think even Walt himself would rather we gave him constructive criticism rather than just being "yes-men".

Reality : There are some things wrong with Walt Disney World. This is fact, not conjecture. There are also some really wonderful things about WDW as well. It is certainly the cleanest park I've ever visited, and the attention to detail is astounding. However, you need to remember that when you bring in the human element to the equation, things can go awry...and they do. No matter how much the Disney "Pixie-dust" model of business is stressed, you still have to deal with another human being when you get there...and last I checked, humans are flawed inherently.

Honestly, folks...you have the option to stop reading something if you don't like it. The mere existence of a post that criticizes Disney shouldn't put you off the entire forum experience. Not everyone roots for your home team, not everyone loves your favorite flavor of ice cream, and there are certainly people that hate the car you drive. This is, however, what makes us all individuals with free will and not drones. So, if you don't like what you read...shrug it off and move on. Whining about it only makes you look bitter.

 

[BfloChick]

Personally, I feel it is more in the tone of what people write, and not the subject.
I can post that I had a bad experience at such and such a resort, and outline what i percieved as problems, without blasting the resort, and belittling people who choose to stay there.
If I don't care for the theming, I pioint that out, but only as my opinion. I never recommend anyone stay away from any resort or restaurant.
I believe it is bashing if you state that people should not stay at xyz because you don't like the way it looks, not Disney enough, over priced, too crowded, etc... with out any real issues other than the look and feel.
If you have a problem with a broken bed, broken fridge, point it out, but to say "I would never stay at a value or moderate because they don't have inside corridors and it isn't safe, the people are low rent, etc..." instead of "We prefer to have inside corridors" is just a way to make others seem inferior.

This makes a lot of sense to me. I would be surprised if anyone would want this board to turn into a Mindless Happy Echo Chamber, and negative feedback can include useful information. But as with all things, there are tactful ways to go about it. "It's not for me" versus "You'd be crazy to want to stay there."

 

[aleckendyl]

Alot of folks want to throw the "offended" word out there so no debate can continue.
Being offended, i believe is a desperate sign of weakness.
I have never been offended nor ever will be.
These are the folks that only like free speech if EVERYONE agree with them, if not....then they are offended and want the thread shut down. (seen it on other boards). Its their form of censorship.
Debate is HEALTHY and if someone gets "offended" then that their own sad selfs fault.
Debate all! lets celebrate the 1st amendment.
If folks comment on here, they must accept the good, bad and ugly responses.