No Bashing/Bashing threads

[lopez]

I don't mind when someone actually adds to the discussion, but it's so annoying when all they want to do is spout their philosophy--Disney isn't a good value, rip off, off site is the only good place, and on and on. I figure if staying on site is totally not someone's cup of tea, (and they consider it a terrible value--emphasized with lots of caps) why are they even here? Their constant unrelentingly soundly negative "critique" doesn't help anyone with getting questions answered.

And boy do us Swan/Dolphin fans get enough of that from people who never stay there and belittle our choice of resort because it's not "Disney" enough. One poster wrote that he hated the place because he didn't get a "goofey wake-up call" or a bar of "Mickey soap". Unbelievable!

 

[rie'smom]

Scott, we've never made a request and our rooms have been fine. I look at it as "Surprise me". The GF is beautiful and no room will be a bad room. My husband and I loved walking around the resort. We took the boat launch a couple of times rather than the monorail. That was fun. I wish that I could remember our captain's name because he was lots of fun. Have a great trip.

 

[Lynne M]

Sorry, it's just not practical to start labeling threads as 'bashing' or 'not bashing'.

I'd say that most threads about any given resort contain at least one negative comment. Is it right to label the entire thread as 'bashing', based on a few comments? Is there a certain percentage of negative posts that would qualify it as a bashing thread? Who makes that determination?

And how do you distinguish between legitimate complaints about a resort, and bashing? Or is any complaint considered bashing? Just the use of that term sort of implies that that complaint isn't valid.

The purpose of this forum is to provide a place to discuss Disney resorts, planning of resort stays, and experiences at resorts. The fact is, no resort (Disney or otherwise) is perfect. Problems do happen, guests do have real, legitimate reasons to complain from time to time, and I think most people want to hear the pros and the cons of each resort when deciding where to spend their hard-earned dollars.

I think most people are capable of synthesizing all the comments they read, good and bad, when choosing a resort. Each of us has a different level of tolerance for imperfection in a hotel; a situation that ruins one poster's vacation, another guest might not even notice.

My (rambling) point is, that all comments about a resort, good or bad, may be useful to someone. It's up to each reader here to decide how to use the information that's posted here.

 

[angelmav]

Yes Lynne, I am glad you said it! Without the occasional non glowing comment/review how is anyone supposed to get any useful information to at least consider? I cant tell you how many times I read glowing reviews about the most pointless stuff, wow the diet cokes are soooooooo much better at Disney, that any useful message gets lost.

Seriously, do we all have to live in Fantasyland 24/7 that we cant stand to have someone hold an opinion that is counter to our world view or...gosh....those that dont love love love everything about Disney to the point that blue birds are flying out of their nether regions?

I love WDW as much as the next person on here, but like everything else on this earth, it isn't perfect, and reading/knowing that isn't going to cause me to lose any sleep!

 

[Disneyadore]

Most of the "bashing" people always moan about not getting something they thought they were entitled to,deserved ore did not pay for.

 

[angelmav]

Most of "bashing" people always moan about not getting something they thought they were entitled to,deserved ore did not pay for.

You ever listen to the Podcasts? Really what passes for bashing around here tends to be any negative opinion about anything, no matter how it is framed. Try and post a bad food review and youll have 10 people chime in about how wonderful that restaurant was for them, and someone claiming they went on the same day and had an opposite experience.

The OP started this thread because of a thread that asked if WDW was still as magical as ever, to which many people pointed out the guests are worse, some mentioned the CM's, a few the decline in food, a few the cleanliness and deterioration of certain aspects of the resorts. What was lacking in the commentary however, was any sense of entitlement, but an earnest desire for Disney to get back to the standards they set for themselves.

 

[Jestocost]

How would we deal with the posters who label any opinion that isn't the same as their opinion as "bashing." Would their be a bashing court to rule on whether a given post was or was not bashing?

Wait, am I bashing now?

 

[Disneyadore]

You ever listen to the Podcasts? Really what passes for bashing around here tends to be any negative opinion about anything, no matter how it is framed. Try and post a bad food review and youll have 10 people chime in about how wonderful that restaurant was for them, and someone claiming they went on the same day and had an opposite experience.

The OP started this thread because of a thread that asked if WDW was still as magical as ever, to which many people pointed out the guests are worse, some mentioned the CM's, a few the decline in food, a few the cleanliness and deterioration of certain aspects of the resorts. What was lacking in the commentary however, was any sense of entitlement, but an earnest desire for Disney to get back to the standards they set for themselves.

Maybe the people that wish Disney get back to this "standard" could take a deep look inside and also go back to the time that people lived in the real realistic world,had common sense and had not created a dream world for themselves with unrealistic dreams that other have to fulfill.

 

[angelmav]

Maybe the people that wish Disney get back to this "standard" could take a deep look inside and also go back to the time that people lived in the real realistic world,had common sense and had not created a dream world for themselves with unrealistic dreams that other have to fulfill.

You mean like wishing that no one on a chat site would ever express a dissenting opinion that differs from there own unless they first place a warning label on their thoughts and words?

 

[seadd67]

Personaly I like to read all views,If there that nagtive just skip dont bother reading It,If It really makes you that unhappy. Yes I have to agree that alot of views have been comeing across as neagtive,but thats the beatuy of fourms like this we get every ones oppions here. I am sorry to all that feel taken back by the neagtive comments,the only thing that I guess I would suggest Is to have a open mind torads the folks that had a not so Disney experince and maybe put your self In there shoes?,but Its just a thought. But by no means you should take this as how you should you feel about Disney because I am right there with you,I just block out all the neagtive stuff, but I still listen/Read.

 

[TagsMissy]

Personally... I don't think I need to be treated like a child and have my hand held and be made to believe everything is perfect, even at WDW. I don't think we need to place "bashing" or something like that in the subject. If you start to read a thread and don't like it then close the thread and move on. As an adult we can all decide what we read and don't read.

 

[Planogirl]

I like to stay both onsite and offsite depending on prices and my needs during a trip. Where does that leave me?

I love some of the Disney resorts but if something is wrong to me I'm going to say so. I have no idea what anyone said to possibly upset the other poster but if it was too harsh that's a shame. But if it was reality (or even reality to some people) then I don't see how you can expect to stop it.

I like all viewpoints, both good and bad. Both sides teach me a lot and just like movie critics, I don't have to agree.

 

[GhostLady]

Last year my family took our first trip to WDW (well 1st for the kids and 1st for me and DH since childhood). I can honestly say that I think reading some of the negative reviews here on the DIS actually made our trip more "magical". There were a few things I worried about (ADR's especially) after reading negative reviews but I ended up being pleasantly surprised because most of my experiences were better than I expected. If I had went thinking everything would be perfect, I might have left disappointed but instead it was the other way around.

I think anyone who would cancel a trip based on ANYTHING they read on a message board might have a had their expectations set a little to high and would have probably been disappointed in the end anyway because nothing is perfect, not even Disney Shocking I know...It shocks me that I actually typed that. Don't tell DH. I don't think he could handle finding out that deep down I really do know that my beloved Disney isn't perfect.

The above paragraph is not referring to the person mentioned who did cancel their trip because like other posters have mentioned, I think there could be other reasons why they canceled.

 

[Allison]

They should read the threads that express the beauty and magic of our favorite place.

But that's your opinion. I believe people can take care of themselves and don't need someone to filter posts for them. This is a discussion board which means taking the good with the bad.

 

[ajleone]

I have no idea what anyone said to possibly upset the other poster but if it was too harsh that's a shame. But if it was reality (or even reality to some people) then I don't see how you can expect to stop it.

I can't tell you all that was said. But here are a couple of quotes from the poster in question and she got these ideas from reading the DIS.

"I won't have a magical time if DH and DS 9.5 aren't having a good time, and they won't be if the place isn't clean and people are mean to them"

"I'd still love to go to WDW, but I only probably have 2 vacations for these kids ever and I can't blow them on a place with filthy restrooms and indifferent staff"

I've been many times and the above is just not the case. Is it perfect? Of course not, but it's the closest I'm going to get.
To me it's just sad that she has come away with such a distorted opinion and may now never know just haw magical WDW can be.

 

[Doc CW]

I totally agree!

I DISlike nothing more than going on a seemingly innocent thread, and then finding myself reading DISBashing!

I mean....a suggestion here or there....a bad experience....I understand...

But if it's SO darn awful at Disney...why have I been 18 times and still dying to go back as soon as I can?

And if you DON'T feel the same way....why are you on the disboards?

I'm sure there's an 'Anti-Disney' website out there somewhere....Go Join It !

Have a Magical Day,

Mary

I agree 100%

 

[Gabes_mommy]

I think it's unrealistic to expect people to be 100% positive about anything 100% of the time - even Disney.

I actually like hearing the negative as well as the positive. People have higher expectations for a Disney vacation than almost anything else. They expect it to be perfect and then if it's not they are disappointed/angry/upset....etc. If they read honest reviews here they may go in with a more realistic opinion about what the strengths and weaknesses are of a specific resort.

If I go in expecting things to be nice but not "perfect", I am not disappointed. We are staying at CBR for the first time in Sept and I have read both negative and positive things here about that resort. None of it has dampered my total excitement about staying there.

I have never stayed at Pop Century and I recently read here about the smoking areas and how active they are. I am very sensitive to cigarette smoke - it makes me sick. I still would like to stay at Pop Century someday, but now I won't be unpleasantly surprised by the smoking area right outside the food court because I read about it here. Therefore, I will be less likely to be unhappy about PC because I already knew about this going in.

I have had some things happen at Disney resorts that I was not thrilled with, but overall I love it! There is no other place I would rather vacation and dark rooms, lack of Mousekeeping, trash at the pool - none of those things are going to change that.

 

[goofy4tink]

Everyone, every single person here, is entitled to their opinions. It is up to us to decide what we choose to believe. For me, the parks are just fine, the CMs are just fine, the food is well, it's okay. Has any of this gone downhill in recent years? Maybe so...well, the food has. But, it is still good enough for me to spend my vacation dollars there. For others, they may not want to spend the money if the experience isn't going to be as magical an experience as they remember having had in years' past.

Do others come here screaming...'WDW is the filtiest place, the food is nasty and there are bugs in the resorts!!!!'?? Sure they do. And it is up to others to offset these posts with more rational, realistic ones. There are always going to be those who are negative nellies and nothing is going to satisfy them....they didn't get upgraded at the resort, they had a 90 min experience with DME, they didn't get a free birthday cake at all of the restaurants, they didn't get into a parade...you get my drift. Most of us are happy with our WDW stays...we have more realistic expectations...give us a towel animal and a cupcake and we're thrilled!!!
We can't govern what people are going to say here...we can only try to keep it balenced. I know that each person is going to have different expectations.
I remember when I traveled to WDW with my dd who was turning 13. We traveled with another mom and her dd....my dd's friend from birth who turned 13 two days after my dd. I booked a two bedroom, boardwalk villa for us. Figured that should make my friend happy since she has pretty high standards. Well...she got all in a huff because she found out that she wasn't going to get fresh, clean towels every day!!! She was mortified. I had to clean out my supply of towels and faceclothes from my area....dd and I only needed a facecloth, a hand towel and a bath towel each...no need for a clean one every day!! Just goes to show that what is going to be fine for one person is not going to be remotely fine with another one!!!

 

[RMulieri]

I haven't read all the posts here.But I have to respectfully disagree. The purpose of the disboards is a discussion forum.This means lots of people,lots of different opinions.EVERYONE is entitled to offer their opinion.If one does not like what they are reading, then they need to shut the thread and move on. If 100% pixie dust,happiness, and all positive all the time is what one wants, then this is not the place for them.I have been on lots of boards FAR WORSE then here.I personally welcome the negative opinions.Not everything is perfect even Disney.

 

[Allison]

I haven't read all the posts here.But I have to respectfully disagree. The purpose of the disboards is a discussion forum.This means lots of people,lots of different opinions.EVERYONE is entitled to offer their opinion.If one does not like what they are reading, then they need to shut the thread and move on. If 100% pixie dust,happiness, and all positive all the time is what one wants, then this is not the place for them.I have been on lots of boards FAR WORSE then here.I personally welcome the negative opinions.Not everything is perfect even Disney.

Exactly. This isn't a place designed only to sing the praises of Disney.