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A Desperation Move for Disney?
Michael Eisner is relinquishing some responsibility. But it may not be enough to appease angry shareholders
Jacqueline Larma / AP
Eisner addresses shareholders at the company's annual meeting in Philadelphia on Wednesday
WEB EXCLUSIVE
By Jonathan Darman
Newsweek
Updated: 7:21 p.m. ET March 04, 2004March 4 - When CEO Michael Eisner stood before a crowded room of Walt Disney Co. shareholders in Philadelphia on Wednesday, he knew that many of them wanted his head. After years of poor performance, an unhappy divorce from animation studio Pixar and unrelenting cries of mismanagement from former directors Roy Disney and Stanley Gold, plenty of Disney stock owners were literally shouting in dismay. That day, a shocking 43 percent of them had withheld their support from Eisner, who was running for re-election to the companys board. The message wasnt hard to parse: Disneys investors wanted the big guy to go.
Eisner heard them, sort of. In a late-day deal with the board, Eisner agreed to relinquish his role as chairman but stay on as the companys CEO. In a certain sense, this was a dramatic step. For years, Eisner had been Mr. Disney, ruling over every inch of the House that Walt Built with an iron fist. But some observers said the new arrangement wasnt really addressing the core problem, pointing out that Eisners replacement as chairman would be former Senate majority leader George Mitchell, an Eisner pal. That day, 24 percent of shareholders had withheld their support from Mitchell. NEWSWEEKs Jonathan Darman asked Nell Minow, editor of the Corporate Library, an investment research firm, whether Disneys new leadership structure will mean real change.
Excerpts:
NEWSWEEK: What did you think you think of yesterdays events?
Nell Minow: I was stunned by the vote. In a way it was kind of a perfect storm of everything thats going on in the wacky world of corporate governance right now because not only did you have the whole Roy and Stanley thing but I think that there was also a huge impact that was underestimated that this was the first time that mutual fundsmoney managershave had to disclose how they vote. And for that reason, many more of them are feeling pressure to take a stand against management.
Forty-three percent of shareholders voting to withhold support is pretty unprecedented, right?
Its stunning but its not completely unprecedented. I think there was a no vote in the forties at Federated last year. But certainly at a company of this level of visibility, yes.
Will He Survive?
Angry investors are pressuring Disney directors to replace Michael Eisner. A crucial vote this week may force the board to act
And do leadership teams with that kind of disapproval level ever survive?
No. But theres nothing thats happening right now that has any precedent. Everything is different. In 1997, when Disney got a 13 percent withhold vote, that was considered seismic and yet the company ignored it. I think if theyd gotten a 43 percent withhold vote back then they would have ignored it, toothat was the era when [Eisners] architect and his kids principal was on the board. So, in a way, its the very steps that they took to strengthen the board that made them capable of responding in the way that they did to this.
But is this solution of installing Mitchell as a non-executive chairman really a strong response to the shareholder discontent?
Thats a definite time-will-tell situation. We rate boards on the decisions they make, not on the nameplates that they move around from title to title. We will be looking for Disney to add some additional, very strong new directors; for them to be very clear in their disclosures about CEO succession planning to talk more about what theyve done. And, of course, they need to counter the reputation that the company has right now of not being creative enough, producing, yet another "Daughter of Cinderella" video.
Symbolically, though, does it make enough of a statement about the companys willingness to change to install as chairman a director who had previously been quite closely linked to the old regime?
If it were me, I would not have made the new chairman somebody who got a 25 percent withhold. My choice would have been [Disney board member Robert] Matschullat. Appointing him would have sent a stronger sentiment Matschullat does not have that history of ties with Eisner. And Ive talked with him and he seemed to have a very clear understanding of governance and he seems to be someone who could communicate effectively with investors George Mitchells a really good guy and an American hero and all that, but Bob Matschullat speaks fluent Wall Street.
What does Mitchell have going for him?
Well, lets look at what Mitchells last job was: what better preparation could you have than negotiating peace in northern Ireland? Hes a consensus builder, hes going to make sure everyone feels listened to. And thats not a bad thing.
Youre a big advocate of dividing chairman and CEO responsibilities? Whats the virtue of that kind of arrangement?
If you have the chairman and CEO in the same job, then the CEO controls the agenda and he controls the quantity, quality and timing of the information thats provided to the directors. Thats just deadly. Thats exactly what the problem was at Enron. Thats what leads otherwise intelligent people to say, "Oh yeah, well wave the companys conflict-of-interest rules." Its all in the way the information is presented.
How does an outside chairman fix that problem?
The reason you want to have an outside chairman is to make sure that that project you havent heard about for the last three board meetings, its not because its doing badly. Its the agenda, the control of the agenda thats the big, big issue.
Does todays announcement from Dell that the founder Michael Dell is going to be relinquishing the CEO title and becoming chairman meet that standard?
Thats the other end of the scale It doesnt accomplish this one goal that I just mentioned. What it does is free Michael Dell so that he doesnt have to worry about operational stuff any more, which is fine, but hes still a full-time employee and hes still going to keep doing the same stuff hes been doing.
So this Disney arrangement is acceptable on that score. Mitchells not an employee of the company.
The question is is George Mitchell going to set the agenda or is he going to get a memo from Michael [Eisner] and send it around?
Might Mitchells stature help with that? Hes got enough accomplishments under his belt, he doesnt need to stay friends with Michael Eisner.
Except that hes been running for office for a long time, hes a guy who gets along with people Hes a guy who knows how to put coalitions together, and thats a fabulous skill to have. But that doesnt mean hes the right guy for this job.
Whats in it for Mitchell? Hes got plenty of money, hes got enough lines on his resume, why associate himself with this troubled media company?
I think he is a genuine statesman. This is really public service for him. Disney is as much a national treasure as Yosemite Park. I think hes doing it for all the right reasons, and I hope he has what it takes. Well know soon, well either see some different things happening or we wont.
What should Mitchell do to show that hes serious about making those changes?
Mitchell has got to go talk to shareholders. They have got to be able to ask him that question themselves. Certainly the indicators that well be looking at are things like CEO pay, transparency of their various disclosures and who they add to the board next. Theyve got one empty board seat and they could buy themselves a lot of credibility by adding somebody with a great record of speaking out on behalf of shareholders.
Whats the trend been recently in terms of the role of corporate boards and the expectations that are put on directors?
Its really transformed. It used to be that the culture of the boardroom was that it was somehow not sportsmanlike to ask a question. Now its competitive to see who can ask the best question.
Was it Enron that turned the tide?
Enron would have been seen as an anomaly if not for the cascading dominoes that came afterward: Global Crossing, Tyco, Adelphia Every corporate director has said, There but for the grace go I. The late Tom Horton used to say that the single most important attribute of a corporate director was to yawn with your mouth closed. Thats completely changed.
That makes this Mitchell appointment seem kind of anomalous. Former government officials arent known for being worker bees.
Yeah, our records show that former cabinet officials in particular do a poor job and former senators do a poor job, but there are some significant exceptions to that. I think George Mitchell is a man of genuine integrity and ability, and I think that Michael Eisner is a man of integrity and ability and if they really want this to work, they can make it work. But its going to take a lot of persuading. Theyre digging themselves out of a hole.
© 2004 Newsweek, Inc.
Michael Eisner is relinquishing some responsibility. But it may not be enough to appease angry shareholders
Jacqueline Larma / AP
Eisner addresses shareholders at the company's annual meeting in Philadelphia on Wednesday

WEB EXCLUSIVE
By Jonathan Darman
Newsweek
Updated: 7:21 p.m. ET March 04, 2004March 4 - When CEO Michael Eisner stood before a crowded room of Walt Disney Co. shareholders in Philadelphia on Wednesday, he knew that many of them wanted his head. After years of poor performance, an unhappy divorce from animation studio Pixar and unrelenting cries of mismanagement from former directors Roy Disney and Stanley Gold, plenty of Disney stock owners were literally shouting in dismay. That day, a shocking 43 percent of them had withheld their support from Eisner, who was running for re-election to the companys board. The message wasnt hard to parse: Disneys investors wanted the big guy to go.
Eisner heard them, sort of. In a late-day deal with the board, Eisner agreed to relinquish his role as chairman but stay on as the companys CEO. In a certain sense, this was a dramatic step. For years, Eisner had been Mr. Disney, ruling over every inch of the House that Walt Built with an iron fist. But some observers said the new arrangement wasnt really addressing the core problem, pointing out that Eisners replacement as chairman would be former Senate majority leader George Mitchell, an Eisner pal. That day, 24 percent of shareholders had withheld their support from Mitchell. NEWSWEEKs Jonathan Darman asked Nell Minow, editor of the Corporate Library, an investment research firm, whether Disneys new leadership structure will mean real change.
Excerpts:
NEWSWEEK: What did you think you think of yesterdays events?
Nell Minow: I was stunned by the vote. In a way it was kind of a perfect storm of everything thats going on in the wacky world of corporate governance right now because not only did you have the whole Roy and Stanley thing but I think that there was also a huge impact that was underestimated that this was the first time that mutual fundsmoney managershave had to disclose how they vote. And for that reason, many more of them are feeling pressure to take a stand against management.
Forty-three percent of shareholders voting to withhold support is pretty unprecedented, right?
Its stunning but its not completely unprecedented. I think there was a no vote in the forties at Federated last year. But certainly at a company of this level of visibility, yes.
Will He Survive?
Angry investors are pressuring Disney directors to replace Michael Eisner. A crucial vote this week may force the board to act
And do leadership teams with that kind of disapproval level ever survive?
No. But theres nothing thats happening right now that has any precedent. Everything is different. In 1997, when Disney got a 13 percent withhold vote, that was considered seismic and yet the company ignored it. I think if theyd gotten a 43 percent withhold vote back then they would have ignored it, toothat was the era when [Eisners] architect and his kids principal was on the board. So, in a way, its the very steps that they took to strengthen the board that made them capable of responding in the way that they did to this.
But is this solution of installing Mitchell as a non-executive chairman really a strong response to the shareholder discontent?
Thats a definite time-will-tell situation. We rate boards on the decisions they make, not on the nameplates that they move around from title to title. We will be looking for Disney to add some additional, very strong new directors; for them to be very clear in their disclosures about CEO succession planning to talk more about what theyve done. And, of course, they need to counter the reputation that the company has right now of not being creative enough, producing, yet another "Daughter of Cinderella" video.
Symbolically, though, does it make enough of a statement about the companys willingness to change to install as chairman a director who had previously been quite closely linked to the old regime?
If it were me, I would not have made the new chairman somebody who got a 25 percent withhold. My choice would have been [Disney board member Robert] Matschullat. Appointing him would have sent a stronger sentiment Matschullat does not have that history of ties with Eisner. And Ive talked with him and he seemed to have a very clear understanding of governance and he seems to be someone who could communicate effectively with investors George Mitchells a really good guy and an American hero and all that, but Bob Matschullat speaks fluent Wall Street.
What does Mitchell have going for him?
Well, lets look at what Mitchells last job was: what better preparation could you have than negotiating peace in northern Ireland? Hes a consensus builder, hes going to make sure everyone feels listened to. And thats not a bad thing.
Youre a big advocate of dividing chairman and CEO responsibilities? Whats the virtue of that kind of arrangement?
If you have the chairman and CEO in the same job, then the CEO controls the agenda and he controls the quantity, quality and timing of the information thats provided to the directors. Thats just deadly. Thats exactly what the problem was at Enron. Thats what leads otherwise intelligent people to say, "Oh yeah, well wave the companys conflict-of-interest rules." Its all in the way the information is presented.
How does an outside chairman fix that problem?
The reason you want to have an outside chairman is to make sure that that project you havent heard about for the last three board meetings, its not because its doing badly. Its the agenda, the control of the agenda thats the big, big issue.
Does todays announcement from Dell that the founder Michael Dell is going to be relinquishing the CEO title and becoming chairman meet that standard?
Thats the other end of the scale It doesnt accomplish this one goal that I just mentioned. What it does is free Michael Dell so that he doesnt have to worry about operational stuff any more, which is fine, but hes still a full-time employee and hes still going to keep doing the same stuff hes been doing.
So this Disney arrangement is acceptable on that score. Mitchells not an employee of the company.
The question is is George Mitchell going to set the agenda or is he going to get a memo from Michael [Eisner] and send it around?
Might Mitchells stature help with that? Hes got enough accomplishments under his belt, he doesnt need to stay friends with Michael Eisner.
Except that hes been running for office for a long time, hes a guy who gets along with people Hes a guy who knows how to put coalitions together, and thats a fabulous skill to have. But that doesnt mean hes the right guy for this job.
Whats in it for Mitchell? Hes got plenty of money, hes got enough lines on his resume, why associate himself with this troubled media company?
I think he is a genuine statesman. This is really public service for him. Disney is as much a national treasure as Yosemite Park. I think hes doing it for all the right reasons, and I hope he has what it takes. Well know soon, well either see some different things happening or we wont.
What should Mitchell do to show that hes serious about making those changes?
Mitchell has got to go talk to shareholders. They have got to be able to ask him that question themselves. Certainly the indicators that well be looking at are things like CEO pay, transparency of their various disclosures and who they add to the board next. Theyve got one empty board seat and they could buy themselves a lot of credibility by adding somebody with a great record of speaking out on behalf of shareholders.
Whats the trend been recently in terms of the role of corporate boards and the expectations that are put on directors?
Its really transformed. It used to be that the culture of the boardroom was that it was somehow not sportsmanlike to ask a question. Now its competitive to see who can ask the best question.
Was it Enron that turned the tide?
Enron would have been seen as an anomaly if not for the cascading dominoes that came afterward: Global Crossing, Tyco, Adelphia Every corporate director has said, There but for the grace go I. The late Tom Horton used to say that the single most important attribute of a corporate director was to yawn with your mouth closed. Thats completely changed.
That makes this Mitchell appointment seem kind of anomalous. Former government officials arent known for being worker bees.
Yeah, our records show that former cabinet officials in particular do a poor job and former senators do a poor job, but there are some significant exceptions to that. I think George Mitchell is a man of genuine integrity and ability, and I think that Michael Eisner is a man of integrity and ability and if they really want this to work, they can make it work. But its going to take a lot of persuading. Theyre digging themselves out of a hole.
© 2004 Newsweek, Inc.