OnSpaceshipEarth
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the increased crowds...
Well...at least THAT'S no longer an issue.
the increased crowds...
I LOVE them!! Can't wait to get all 4!Wine and Dine medals:
https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...f-the-disney-wine-dine-half-marathon-weekend/
These.... do not seem on theme? Granted, last year was my first really paying attention to these things but I would never guess a wine and dine theme with these designs. That being said I wish I could do the two course for that Three Caballeros medal!
Well...at least THAT'S no longer an issue.
All the reports from WDW seem to say that crowds are very "light" this summer andit looks even worse for the fall. None other than Pete Werner has commented on the wide open availability for the fall.Did the crowds at WDW drop off lately? I know the DL crowds have been greatly reduced.
All the reports from WDW seem to say that crowds are very "light" this summer andit looks even worse for the fall. None other than Pete Werner has commented on the wide open availability for the fall.
I wouldn’t expect empty. The parks still have decent waits. It’s not crazy wall to wall like it was or like people expected but it’s not dead with everything being a walk on. Slinky is still 75+ minutes and flight of Passage 100+. October you add SWGE and the parks certainly won’t be empty. They are also getting ready to release new discountsThat would be great. We're going to HHN in early October and have 2 day WDW tickets we were finally going to use. I can't even remember the last time I went to WDW and it was empty.
We would always go around Halloween time for MNSSHP and do a few parties (which seems insane now, looking at the price increases). Some years we'd go back for the Christmas decorations. We also went in May the last few years they had Star Wars Celebration.
Are you using a mobile browser or your desktop/laptop when it happens?
I was getting HORRIBLE redirects on my iPhone a few weeks ago. I downloaded and added a content blocker and all my issues were solved.
I downloaded Firefox Focus from the app store and followed these steps: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/focus#w_use-firefox-focus-with-safariIt happens when I use my iphone as well. Thanks for the tip.
Won't they need to put a security station on that path? IIRC, it would come out by the monorail station. Everybody on the monorails has already been screened but the walkers won't have.
You know, it's funny because one of my pathologists at work was mentioning the other day that he had read an article that stated this very sentiment....that Disney is pricing out the average family. I think that is really sad and not at all what Walt would have wanted.
Few things here. First the site is banned for a reason. It’s best if we don’t constantly talk about them.
Views: If DHS had fireworks you’d have an amazing view of their show. You have an obstructed view of Epcot and than a very distant view of MK.
Food: that’s always going to be hit or miss with people. Not everyone is going to like everyone. I enjoyed what I had.
I would say Dahlia is my favorite part but don’t count out Toledo. Go try it if you can.
we go to the Alamo here (north of NYC) which has really good food and drinks and craft beers and stuff - and also polices stuff (no kids allowed, no use of phones, no arriving late, etc.) - but the tickets themselves are only $15 ... they get you on the food/drink bill (although, it isn't really any more than like a regular restaurant would be)
granted we have to add about $50 for a babysitter to that
Do we know what’s going on with this? It’s been down for so long unexpectedly that I feel like this should be bigger news.
Have they done this in the past? Or is this new ground?
Or, Disney has now discovered where the price resistance point is.
It’s our own “rise of the resistance”
I’ll head out now...lol
I was at Saratoga so I walked to Disney Springs and took a bus from there. Highly recommend Dahlia. It’s just like any other hotel you can visit if you want staying.How did you get to the hotel, or were you staying there? I am curious if they allow non-hotel guests to park w/o an ADR. I would love to hit Barcelona and/or Dahlia.
Hotel availability does not always = in-park crowd level. With DL, only 3 hotels so most of crowds are form off-site. At WDW, I think people will be more likely to start staying off-site due to cost, especially with Universal's new Value Resorts being so much cheaper than Disney's cheapest hotel. I think there will still be crowds in the parks, there are just less people in the hotels, (the number of Disney hotels are going back up again too). Just my 2 centsAll the reports from WDW seem to say that crowds are very "light" this summer andit looks even worse for the fall. None other than Pete Werner has commented on the wide open availability for the fall.
The only thing that makes me wary to agree with you is that over the past year all the times I traveled down there crowd levels are not as bad as predicted. The availability of rooms were a lot less than what we are seeing now for fall. Most of my trips over the past year to use my AP were what I considered last minute, aka 8 weeks or less before arrival. So honestly I think that is more telling. Also there are several non Disney owned cheaper hotels in the bubble and At a conparable price to many offsite hotels when you factor the transportation and or parking costs of going to Disney, especially because not everyone chooses to air bnb which is significantly cheaper for a large family. In saying that Even these on site partner hotels seem to have more availability this fall. These are pretty big warning signs at attendance is going to be at a low level this fall.Hotel availability does not always = in-park crowd level. With DL, only 3 hotels so most of crowds are form off-site. At WDW, I think people will be more likely to start staying off-site due to cost, especially with Universal's new Value Resorts being so much cheaper than Disney's cheapest hotel. I think there will still be crowds in the parks, there are just less people in the hotels, (the number of Disney hotels are going back up again too). Just my 2 cents![]()
Hotel availability does not always = in-park crowd level. With DL, only 3 hotels so most of crowds are form off-site. At WDW, I think people will be more likely to start staying off-site due to cost, especially with Universal's new Value Resorts being so much cheaper than Disney's cheapest hotel. I think there will still be crowds in the parks, there are just less people in the hotels, (the number of Disney hotels are going back up again too). Just my 2 cents![]()
I started at Deluxe and now I’m starting to go with off site. Now that hotel parking at night is equivalent to paying to park at a theme park and we sometimes drive, the perks of staying on site make it more difficult to choose Disney. Of course put a discount in my path and I’m all about Contemporary. I am making our next trip Universal. I think our girls are now old enough.
we have 2 young kids that we take to Disney for their bdays and 2 other times a year, all during Fall and Winter. Every year I closely monitor hotel rates and by doing that, you start to find out when resorts typically start to be at capacity (conventions can throw this off a bit, but they usually are at only a few resorts).Here's the good news - if they have truly run the prices up too high and see it's effect on the bottom line. (Disney has partly raised prices as quickly as it has because it knows the parks are overcrowded, and they actually don't want increases in people, but increases in spending. But at a point they would have to roll back prices (or offer deep discounts) to get people to come back again.
I'm not holding my breath yet that Star Wars land isn't going to cause a pop. It may be a phenomonon of "avoid the opening crowds + the main ride isn't there yet anyways." I think we have to wait until early 2020 to really declare that they are having an attendance issue.
When you do the math, with the economic woes in Europe, you can do Europe for the price of a Disney trip right now. A lot of things have to hit (time to go, kids old enough, interest, etc). My Facebook is filled with friends overseas right now. My theory is that Disney raised their prices too high, and some of the quality has been dropping (customer service a big one).
Granted, they had to in order to lower attendance. It will take some creativity, and they’re certainly not hurting.