News Round Up 2017

[circus4u]

When Hall of Presidents opened, only Lincoln spoke. At some point, 2009, Washington began to speak. Clinton was the first sitting president to make a speech. As far as I know, the speeches of the sitting president are recorded in Washington, not WDW. My own opinion is that they should stop doing the speeches by the sitting president, whoever that might be. If they want another speech in the show, go back in history for a significant event, president. Kennedy, Roosevelt maybe.

 

[SouthFayetteFan]

10 people? Please...there are dozens of Stitch fans...DOZENS!

Edit: Just so there's no additional confusion, I'm talking about the ride, not the character.

I challenge you to produce 24 fans of that "experience". Hahaha!

 

[rteetz]

When Hall of Presidents opened, only Lincoln spoke. At some point, 2009, Washington began to speak. Clinton was the first sitting president to make a speech. As far as I know, the speeches of the sitting president are recorded in Washington, not WDW. My own opinion is that they should stop doing the speeches by the sitting president, whoever that might be. If they want another speech in the show, go back in history for a significant event, president. Kennedy, Roosevelt maybe.

Yep. They made a whole video about the process they went through with Obama.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

They've only done the last 3 Presidents. Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush weren't recorded. More haven't than have since opening. I don't think it's a big deal if they stop to avoid the hassle. As it is I've heard people boo all 3 of the recorded Presidents at various times. Might be better just to give it a rest.

Except for the fact that we all know why they would be doing it for Trump...

At this point the tradition of the current President speaking has actually outlasted the tradition of not speaking when you consider the number of years it's been a certain way.

Consider it this way:
Clinton=2 terms
Bush Jr=2 terms
Obama=2 terms

However if none of those presidents had won another term you would add 3 more presidents so that would be 6 presidents that have spoken since 1993. The # of presidents who have spoken since they decided to do it was up to the election process so IMHO stating "it's only been 3 presidents" sorta misses the mark because there could have been more depending on how the elections panned out.

 

[luisov]

Regardless of Disney's thoughts on Trump, I'm sure they're aware that some patriotism along with very contrasting opinions from the audience will not end well. Conflict avoidance should be their top priority with this one.

 

[jknezek]

However if none of those presidents had won another term you would add 3 more presidents so that would be 6 presidents that have spoken since 1993. The # of presidents who have spoken since they decided to do it was up to the election process so IMHO stating "it's only been 3 presidents" sorta misses the mark because there could have been more depending on how the elections panned out.

Fair enough. I think that is a fair alternative way of looking at it. I just am not sure it matters. The whole thing is a pain for them at this point and is a pain regardless of which party wins. If they think they can find a way out, I'm guessing they will take it. Especially as making the show longer and longer is probably not on their list of things to do.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Fair enough. I think that is a fair alternative way of looking at it. I just am not sure it matters. The whole thing is a pain for them at this point and is a pain regardless of which party wins. If they think they can find a way out, I'm guessing they will take it. Especially as making the show longer and longer is probably not on their list of things to do.

Yeah I do agree won't matter either way it was just my food for thought. I've seen the rationale multiple times here "it's only been the last three" and it got me really thinking at it from a different side. And yup I could see Disney taking an easy way out if they feel they can get away with it.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Fair enough. I think that is a fair alternative way of looking at it. I just am not sure it matters. The whole thing is a pain for them at this point and is a pain regardless of which party wins. If they think they can find a way out, I'm guessing they will take it. Especially as making the show longer and longer is probably not on their list of things to do.

Yeah I do agree won't matter either way it was just my food for thought. I've seen the rationale multiple times here "it's only been the last three" and it got me really thinking at it from a different side. And yup I could see Disney taking an easy way out if they feel they can get away with it.

which, to be honest, I am ok with - as isn't really their place (at least not within the parks) to make a political statement - and some people will take what they do (or don't do) as a political statement if it is against what they want

 

[pookadoo77]

Our last trip we had a day of no parks, where we explored WL, went to Disney Springs, and closed it with Hoop Dee Do Revue, Wishes Fireworks from our room, and the Electrical Light Water Pageant. It was a really great day.

Looking at a non park day soon ourselves! How was WL? And where did you see electrical water pageant from? TY!

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

which, to be honest, I am ok with - as isn't really their place (at least not within the parks) to make a political statement - and some people will take what they do (or don't do) as a political statement if it is against what they want

Well to be fair not having him speak can be just as much a political statement as having him speak. It's what makes the situation difficult.

There's quite a scandal going on right now with possible reasons why 'Last Man Standing' got cancelled and though I'm not trying to delve into the political aspect much taking something away even with the idea of "well it's too much controversy, etc" can still be very much a political statement.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Well to be fair not having him speak can be just as much a political statement as having him speak. It's what makes the situation difficult.

There's quite a scandal going on right now with possible reasons why 'Last Man Standing' got cancelled and though I'm not trying to delve into the political aspect much taking something away even with the idea of "well it's too much controversy, etc" can still be very much a political statement.

Fully agree and what I meant - if they have him talk some people will be against that and see it as Disney supporting him and if they don't have holding m talk other people will be against that and this Disney is "giving in to the Left" .... either way at least some people will see it as a politically motivated move

So if they can have an excuse for why an outside force dictates their decision then they can deflect the criticism from whichever side would be upset (granted I think either way 90% of people would be ok with it - but it would be a vocal minority)

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Fully agree and what I meant - if they have him talk some people will be against that and see it as Disney supporting him and if they don't have holding m talk other people will be against that and this Disney is "giving in to the Left" .... either way at least some people will see it as a politically motivated move

So if they can have an excuse for why an outside force dictates their decision then they can deflect the criticism from whichever side would be upset (granted I think either way 90% of people would be ok with it - but it would be a vocal minority)

Ah...yes I totally get what you mean and I do agree with you. Sorry I may have misunderstood before lol.

Personally I find it disheartening that an animatronic at a theme park can cause so much ruckus. I get why for sure but still..

 

[danikoski]

Looking at a non park day soon ourselves! How was WL? And where did you see electrical water pageant from? TY!

I love WL...the themeing, the boats, the atmosphere, the water, Territory Lounge (try the mushroom soup, it's fabulous), the fireplace, the waterfall...just an awesome place altogether.

We watched the ELWP from the walkway by the geyser at WL. If Geyser Point had been open we could have watched it from there with a nice drink.

 

[rteetz]

News

The Disney fantasy is being delayed in its return to port canaveral due to technical difficulties.

http://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories...lay-disney-fantasys-return-to-port-canaveral/

 

[rteetz]

 

[TheMaxRebo]

News

The Disney fantasy is being delayed in its return to port canaveral due to technical difficulties.

http://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories...lay-disney-fantasys-return-to-port-canaveral/

I've watching posts from people on board - guess they are being pushed into post by tugboats

Supposedly they added activities for people due to the delay but no mention of any compensation as of yet (not sure what the policy is for people that miss flights due to delays like this)

 

[AMusicLifeForMe]

More dates added to the Aladdin Broadway Musical U.S. Tour!

Los Angeles, CA: January 10-March 31, 2018! Performances will be performed at the Hollywood Pantages Theater! (I just might have to go visit my hometown during this time. )

Cincinatti, OH: May 29-June 10, 2018! Performances will be performed at The Aronoff Center.

 

[AMusicLifeForMe]

I've watching posts from people on board - guess they are being pushed into post by tugboats

Supposedly they added activities for people due to the delay but no mention of any compensation as of yet (not sure what the policy is for people that miss flights due to delays like this)

I know Pete is onboard. He said that DCL was helping people with flights who had booked through DCL and also with those who had not. I'm not sure what the policy is either.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I know Pete is onboard. He said that DCL was helping people with flights who had booked through DCL and also with those who had not. I'm not sure what the policy is either.

Looks like Craig is on board too (I think with Kylie as well). Well, makes for a good story come Tuesday's podcast

 

[Roxyfire]

Well to be fair not having him speak can be just as much a political statement as having him speak. It's what makes the situation difficult.

There's quite a scandal going on right now with possible reasons why 'Last Man Standing' got cancelled and though I'm not trying to delve into the political aspect much taking something away even with the idea of "well it's too much controversy, etc" can still be very much a political statement.

I'm of the opinion it's best to keep it to the historical greats. Current and recent presidents are much more polarizing now in our political climate. Allowing things to cool off and focus on the office of the presidency is a better approach to that attraction. Plus different administrations have different approaches to outside media and this keeps it simple. As a side note, I think people can find controversy in just about anything if they look hard enough. The minute you start to bring your personal beliefs into business and acting like you're being persecuted is the minute you start losing respect. I guess celebrities and politicians are too used to being coddled these days.