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I guess I'm looking at this a different way.
From an operations stand point, a small boutique hotel would want to be separate enough to seem unique but close enough to benefit from the other resorts.
IF it happens, and you are a hotel ops staff member, you are hoping it goes west of the bus drop off, with some sort of connection to the yacht club. It allows for shared facility maintenance staff, housekeeping as well as others. While each resort will have their identity, many services can be shared behind the scenes.
Being a small boutique hotel, I think the guests would find value in being able access the boardwalk directly. While they might have their own table service and quick service restaurant, having a little variety just a stroll a way has value to those guests.
Its not to say that someone that loves boardwalk can't stay elsewhere and get access. They can. It's a matter of helping open up the options for a small footprint hotel.
I think of it like how they are setting up the Riviera resort. It's has an identity separate than the CBR, but the guests undoubtedly benefit from being close to CBR, and the staff will definitely have some crossover.

The skyliner to the front conversation seems to gone on a tangent. My point has been lost.
My point was that if a hotel at the front of the park was truly planned, They likely would have tried to incorporate the skyliner into the project, either directly or indirectly. As the skyliner is the new hot thing. I'm not saying two stops at each epcot gate. I'm not suggesting either gate. Simply that the two projects would have to interact with each other somehow. As it stands now, there isn't anything in the skyliner project that looks like it would be affected by the mystery resort. So that leads me to believe the rumored resort is more blue sky dreaming than anything. There goal might be to be there, but nothing is really firmed up.
The talk of an attraction at England with little details adds to the mystery. I feel like that corner of the park(the spine-England to say "the Land") is having a little bit of higher level planning going on.
 

I guess I'm looking at this a different way.
From an operations stand point, a small boutique hotel would want to be separate enough to seem unique but close enough to benefit from the other resorts.
IF it happens, and you are a hotel ops staff member, you are hoping it goes west of the bus drop off, with some sort of connection to the yacht club. It allows for shared facility maintenance staff, housekeeping as well as others. While each resort will have their identity, many services can be shared behind the scenes.
Being a small boutique hotel, I think the guests would find value in being able access the boardwalk directly. While they might have their own table service and quick service restaurant, having a little variety just a stroll a way has value to those guests.
Its not to say that someone that loves boardwalk can't stay elsewhere and get access. They can. It's a matter of helping open up the options for a small footprint hotel.
I think of it like how they are setting up the Riviera resort. It's has an identity separate than the CBR, but the guests undoubtedly benefit from being close to CBR, and the staff will definitely have some crossover.

The skyliner to the front conversation seems to gone on a tangent. My point has been lost.
My point was that if a hotel at the front of the park was truly planned, They likely would have tried to incorporate the skyliner into the project, either directly or indirectly. As the skyliner is the new hot thing. I'm not saying two stops at each epcot gate. I'm not suggesting either gate. Simply that the two projects would have to interact with each other somehow. As it stands now, there isn't anything in the skyliner project that looks like it would be affected by the mystery resort. So that leads me to believe the rumored resort is more blue sky dreaming than anything. There goal might be to be there, but nothing is really firmed up.
The talk of an attraction at England with little details adds to the mystery. I feel like that corner of the park(the spine-England to say "the Land") is having a little bit of higher level planning going on.
I'm just thinking of this hotel as NOT close to the Boardwalk, so I think people that want to be close to the Boardwalk would just stay somewhere else.

This hotel would have direct, non-bus access to Epcot and the TTC. If Disney wanted a new hotel with Boardwalk access, they could build one elsewhere.
 
I guess I'm looking at this a different way.
From an operations stand point, a small boutique hotel would want to be separate enough to seem unique but close enough to benefit from the other resorts.
IF it happens, and you are a hotel ops staff member, you are hoping it goes west of the bus drop off, with some sort of connection to the yacht club. It allows for shared facility maintenance staff, housekeeping as well as others. While each resort will have their identity, many services can be shared behind the scenes.
Being a small boutique hotel, I think the guests would find value in being able access the boardwalk directly. While they might have their own table service and quick service restaurant, having a little variety just a stroll a way has value to those guests.
Its not to say that someone that loves boardwalk can't stay elsewhere and get access. They can. It's a matter of helping open up the options for a small footprint hotel.
I think of it like how they are setting up the Riviera resort. It's has an identity separate than the CBR, but the guests undoubtedly benefit from being close to CBR, and the staff will definitely have some crossover.

The skyliner to the front conversation seems to gone on a tangent. My point has been lost.
My point was that if a hotel at the front of the park was truly planned, They likely would have tried to incorporate the skyliner into the project, either directly or indirectly. As the skyliner is the new hot thing. I'm not saying two stops at each epcot gate. I'm not suggesting either gate. Simply that the two projects would have to interact with each other somehow. As it stands now, there isn't anything in the skyliner project that looks like it would be affected by the mystery resort. So that leads me to believe the rumored resort is more blue sky dreaming than anything. There goal might be to be there, but nothing is really firmed up.
The talk of an attraction at England with little details adds to the mystery. I feel like that corner of the park(the spine-England to say "the Land") is having a little bit of higher level planning going on.

Keep in mind that such a property would have fairly easy access to much greater choices than the at the Boardwalk via all restaurants in the monorail loop properties.
 
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Keep in mind that such a property would have fairly easy access to much greater choices than the at the Boardwalk via all restaurants in the monorail loop properties.
To that end, I agree, I think that is a great point.
Side benefit #2 is relative to Disney's bus strategy. The parks are the hub, so most resort guests must go from their resort to a park, to switch to another bus to end up at another resort.
In this scenario, you are already at the hub. So you could go directly from your home resort to let's say the restaurant at the Grand Floridian via bus. Or you take the monorail to the transportation center, switch monorails and go to GF.

What I'm wondering is with the boutique style hotels is whether we might be missing something here. Perhaps the allure of these new boutique style resorts is true direct access, not direct access to the current main gate and the unwashed masses. I'm wondering if a dedicated entrance for those in the hotel similar to the grand californian/DCA. Might that make sense for a perk at that level? In that case the location becomes more important.
 
Keep in mind that such a property would have fairly easy access to much greater choices than the at the Boardwalk via all restaurants in the monorail loop properties.

What in the world are you referring to? Outside of V&A and CG, the monorail loop is terrible in terms of food. Boardwalk area, including the Swolphin, kills it.
 
What in the world are you referring to? Outside of V&A and CG, the monorail loop is terrible in terms of food. Boardwalk area, including the Swolphin, kills it.

well, I like Kona Cafe and enjoy Trader Sam's but you are right, particularly if you include the Swolphin (which of course you would)
 
I like Trader Sam's! Its a madhouse though.

yeah, we usually only stay inside for a drink, maybe 2 and then will shift outside for another round (only way to get the Spikey Pineapple - extra spikey of course - as well). Usually have live music out there too - and just can be a nice setting on a nice evening
 
What in the world are you referring to? Outside of V&A and CG, the monorail loop is terrible in terms of food. Boardwalk area, including the Swolphin, kills it.

Yeah - between the Boardwalk area hotels and direct access to WS, this area beats the monorail loop handsdown. And a hotel at the front of Epcot is still a "wait-10 minute monorail-wait-5 to 10 minute monorail" ride from those places, as oppose to a stay at BW or BC/YC which puts you right in the middle of it. I still don't see this as a good "boutique" location - unless you have a selling point like Star Wars - a "boutique" hotel needs a driver to put people there.
 
Citricos, Narcoossee, California Grill.

In reality anyone in a $400-600/nt deluxe isn't going to think twice about $10-20 uber ride.
 
Citricos, Narcoossee, California Grill.

In reality anyone in a $400-600/nt deluxe isn't going to think twice about $10-20 uber ride.
I don't disagree with you.
I guess my thoughts on any vacation is to avoid any transportation at all costs, and perhaps that is why I like the idea of being able to walk to the boardwalk cluster. I think strolling when I'm vacation. Not getting on the bus, not getting on the monorail, and not getting in a taxi/uber. Oddly, boats are okay.
 
I don't disagree with you.
I guess my thoughts on any vacation is to avoid any transportation at all costs, and perhaps that is why I like the idea of being able to walk to the boardwalk cluster. I think strolling when I'm vacation. Not getting on the bus, not getting on the monorail, and not getting in a taxi/uber. Oddly, boats are okay.
Disney isn’t a typical vacation. It’s pretty easy to forgo transportation at Disneyland but with the size of WDW it just doesn’t work.
 














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