News Round Up 2017

Ouch, those folks who prebooked like crazy into moderates are going to be a wee bit disappointed.

I don't get the concept behind pre-booking. Disney used the free dining promotion to fill where there are empty rooms ... so the more your pre-book, the less empty rooms there are, and thus the less Disney needs to use Free Dining at that resort - so by pre-booking you are making it less likely you will get free dining
 

I wonder if this is partly due to the ROL fiasco.

I was actually wondering that myself. If any restructuring means that they will be able to better gauge when a show is ready for routine operation I am all for it. That was very unfortunate what happened with RoL. I saw the show in March this year and loved it, but there will always be that stigma attached to it.
 
I was actually wondering that myself. If any restructuring means that they will be able to better gauge when a show is ready for routine operation I am all for it. That was very unfortunate what happened with RoL. I saw the show in March this year and loved it, but there will always be that stigma attached to it.

I missed what happened with ROL? Did it just open before it was ready and was a disaster?
 
I missed what happened with ROL? Did it just open before it was ready and was a disaster?

It was announced to open about a year ago but then it kept getting pushed back and ultimately they out in it's place the hastily prepared jungle book show for the summer and then still had a gap before finally opening (and I believe what actually opened is not the complete original vision for the show)
 
It was announced to open about a year ago but then it kept getting pushed back and ultimately they out in it's place the hastily prepared jungle book show for the summer and then still had a gap before finally opening (and I believe what actually opened is not the complete original vision for the show)

Oh, I do remember all that mess!!!
 
I am sure it has been posted before but just saw the details for Free Dining this year - big change being Moderate Resorts only get the quick service plan. Booking opens tomorrow:

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2017/04/walt-...rns-2017-major-changes-moderate-resort-stays/
Yeah you should have seen the reactions on the really long free dining watch thread when information was given on what it looked like the FD would be this year...not too happy for those who had booked mods and were hoping for it.
 
Yeah you should have seen the reactions on the really long free dining watch thread when information was given on what it looked like the FD would be this year...not too happy for those who had booked mods and were hoping for it.

I bet, if you have 5 people in a moderate room, 2 or 3 of which are kids between the ages of 10 and 17 it adds up to be a huge discount. People can argue all day long as to whether it's worth it, but in that situation looking at the raw numbers it's hard to turn that down.
 
I bet, if you have 5 people in a moderate room, 2 or 3 of which are kids between the ages of 10 and 17 it adds up to be a huge discount. People can argue all day long as to whether it's worth it, but in that situation looking at the raw numbers it's hard to turn that down.

I don't understand how people miss this. Everyone's situation is different. Some will do better with a room discount. Some will do slightly better with free dining. Some will do substantially better with free dining. But I guess it's hard for some to consider things through someone else's point of view.
 
Yeah you should have seen the reactions on the really long free dining watch thread when information was given on what it looked like the FD would be this year...not too happy for those who had booked mods and were hoping for it.
I wasn't reading, but yeah, I bet that wasn't pretty. It's a pretty substantial change over prior years.
 
I don't understand how people miss this. Everyone's situation is different. Some will do better with a room discount. Some will do slightly better with free dining. Some will do substantially better with free dining. But I guess it's hard for some to consider things through someone else's point of view.

Agreed, very egocentric points of view. We are a party of two usually, maybe three in the future if I can convince my boyfriend to go. I liked the free dining last year but we didn't get as much use out of it due to disruptions caused by the hurricane. Then I realized, why complicate things? I don't begrudge people using the dining plan if it works for them, but it is not my thing.
 
I don't get the concept behind pre-booking. Disney used the free dining promotion to fill where there are empty rooms ... so the more your pre-book, the less empty rooms there are, and thus the less Disney needs to use Free Dining at that resort - so by pre-booking you are making it less likely you will get free dining
I think if it were done in large quantities - sure. But the the DISers who got a wild hair to pre-book i doubt are swaying the numbers enough to profoundly affect it. Don't you think?
 
I think if it were done in large quantities - sure. But the the DISers who got a wild hair to pre-book i doubt are swaying the numbers enough to profoundly affect it. Don't you think?
It's not just disers who pre book in hopes of free dining. Many do it. Also occupancy has been staying steady across property. Disney doesn't like this discount they are going to keep trying to make it even more limited.
 
I think if it were done in large quantities - sure. But the the DISers who got a wild hair to pre-book i doubt are swaying the numbers enough to profoundly affect it. Don't you think?

I don't know - watching the Dreams Unlimited Travel show they said they are getting the requests more and more and people booking multiple resorts, etc. - and they are seeing less and less inventory for the Fall (typical free dining time) so it must be having some effect

and even if it is only small negative impact - there is zero benefit to having a reservation as even if the resort is eligible for the promotion you having a reservation doesn't help you get a free dining reservation - you still have to basically cancel and book a new reservation

As Tracey says - there is literally nothing you can do ahead of time to guarantee you get free dining in the future
 
It's not just disers who pre book in hopes of free dining. Many do it. Also occupancy has been staying steady across property. Disney doesn't like this discount they are going to keep trying to make it even more limited.
When I first became aware of the FD discount years ago, I was told by the travel agents I talked to, that you could book your room, and then any discounts that came along, you could just apply them to your reservation. We all now know that's not the way it works, and you have to totally cancel and rebook a reservation but only IF there is availability for that room type, or even in that resort. But you can't get people to believe they just can't apply it to an existing reservation.

I always book the resort I want, because I know I'm going regardless of discounts or not. If something comes along we can take advantage of, I consider it pixie dust! This fall, we are booked at a moderate, during a time that FD historically doesn't include. But if a nice RO offer comes along, we'll gladly jump to a Deluxe if we can, but otherwise, we'll be very happy where we are.
 
When I first became aware of the FD discount years ago, I was told by the travel agents I talked to, that you could book your room, and then any discounts that came along, you could just apply them to your reservation. We all now know that's not the way it works, and you have to totally cancel and rebook a reservation but only IF there is availability for that room type, or even in that resort. But you can't get people to believe they just can't apply it to an existing reservation.

I always book the resort I want, because I know I'm going regardless of discounts or not. If something comes along we can take advantage of, I consider it pixie dust! This fall, we are booked at a moderate, during a time that FD historically doesn't include. But if a nice RO offer comes along, we'll gladly jump to a Deluxe if we can, but otherwise, we'll be very happy where we are.

No doubt. That's because the TA is trying to close the deal with you.
 















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